To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action

I'm not confused at all.

Why do specific countries matter. She said any country.

Part of the issue is that some people are renouncing their duel citizenship and only keeping their British one. Someone may then be born overseas but have no legal connection to their country of birth.

Like I say, it's a very complicated and difficult issue. The government should be working on long term viable solutions. What has been suggested is not one

Well, I am sure Pakistan like its aid payments so maybe stop those.

Well said.

Actually the restriction of visas is something I have seen proposed by a couple of broadsheets as leverage that would work. They have abused the privilege of coming to this country and should fuck off, irrespective of how many years they might have been here.

Twitter, like every other social platform, is filled with sexually dodgy men, so don't be daft Zilla1 . What does Musk think should be done about that?

I'm not confused about anything. It's you who's confused.

Which countries are refusing to take back their own citizens?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/07/child-abuse-inquiry-uk-alexis-jay-former-chair

Oh hello.

Sanctions against the US? Are you having a laugh? Who do you think is likely to come off worse - a global superpower or a tiny island in the North Atlantic, no longer even affiliated with the EU?

He can smart off about UK politics as much as he wants: he has no power and no influence here. On this particular point, as it happens, I agree with him.

You are confusing two issues.

As a country we need immigrants, the economy and nhs would not survive without them.

We also need to do something about the foreign born rapists at the end of their sentences. Threatening to refuse all immigration from countries that won't accept them back would not work. It would be seen as a bluff as economically it's untenable.

It's a very shit and complex situation, and simplistic solutions need to be challenged.

We should be working on solutions that will actually work. Maybe implementing the recommendations of the child abuse inquiry. Increasing the numbers of police, longer sentences, more education in schools so children can speak up easier etc

And btw, I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and any suggestion that I'm a rape apologist, or on their side can fuck right off

Previously Twitter have refused to participate in our work.

I presume they mean Twitter under Jack Dorsey, when being a MAP and expressing your child age range preference was de rigueur.

O rly! 🦉🦉

Who could possibly have known??

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Astonishingly limited PR handling by the UK government, putting aside the rights and wrongs of the substantive issue. Perhaps rather than complain, the UK should manage Musk to achieve their goals.

Previously Twitter have refused to participate in our work. We welcome Mr Musk's increased focus on the issue of child protection and look forward to working with him and X/Twitter on our priority to make Social Media safer for children and to work with the UK criminal justice system to identify and prosecute abusers and criminals...

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/elon-musk-starmer-grooming-gangs-vqxcrwlcb

Well well well...the head of the sex abuse inquiry, Alexis Jay, has said that Musk's comments have jolted the government into action.

That's not my solution at all. Don't put words into my mouth.

We need immigration so much that threatening to not take immigrants in would just be seen as a bluff. There's no way we could ever do that.

Your solution is unworkable.

And again, what important work needs doing in this country that we need to accept rapists in to do it???

It's a simple question.

Correct. We should not be accepting anyone from countries where their rapists aren't accepted back. It definitely would be a solution.

Rapists, and murderers.

Your solution is just let them carry on raping women. Top work random bloke.

If countries don't want their criminals back, then all citizen immigration from that country ceases until a deal to take them back is made and signed

A bill to introduce such a "deal" was reportedly introduced in 2021, but I'm having trouble finding out what happened to it ... squashed by those who can't bear any firm action to be taken perhaps?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/06/uk-to-block-visas-from-countries-refusing-to-take-back-undocumented-migrants#:~:text=UK%20to%20block%20visas%20for%20countries%20refusing%20to%20take%20back%20asylum%20seekers,-This%20article%20is&text=The%20UK%20will%20block%20visas,rejected%20asylum%20seekers%20or%20offenders.

Setting aside all the other comments, this has been asked and not answered several times on this thread.

Could somebody please point to the ACTUAL VOTE on deporting foreign born rapists?

Because there has never been such a vote in the UK, but if there were to be a vote on not letting in foreign born rapists, both Trump and Musk would be banned.

@FKAT he did, by stating that they were enacting the recommendations but Tories had not though they were using this as an opportunity to try and rewrite an untrue narrative and gain political capital by aligning themselves to those who seek to interfere in the UK's democracy.

He didn't mention Musk by name, to do so would hand him the power, he spoke about the wider issue of bad actors, sowing lies to divide nations and cause political discord, illustrated perfectly by the arguments in this thread.

Watch it again

This is absolute nonsense. Starmer has a known track record of doing more to bring rapists to justice than any other DPP. We have had three inquiries whose recommendations were not put in place by the previous government despite having a very long time to do so. The Labour government is now rectifying that.

So why didn't Labour lead with that in their communications? Instead of making it about Musk?

@RingoJuice and @yohohoCrimbo the defence lawyers are not morally bankrupt, they are there to provide defence for the defendant. That is their legal duty. I don't suppose they take any joy whatsoever in defending such dreadful people but our legal system ensures that we all have the right to defence and a fair trial.

YABU for posting another musk thread.

Again she was saying that we shouldn't accept immigrants from countries that won't take their rapists back. You appear to have misunderstood my response

We do need a solution but what she suggested isn't it

We need workers, not rapists.

What industry do you think is short of rapists??