Page 16 | To think that Musk is now overstepping himself and the UK gvt should threaten action

Bogginsthe3rd · 2025-01-07T02:02:34+00:00

Musk has just posted this on twitter (among other unhinged tweets). To me this reads as a thinly veiled threat to democratically elected UK MPs and actually the UK government should consider sanctions to the US if he continues this attack when he enters the White House?

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 13:38

wholettheturnipsburn · 07/01/2025 13:32

@XylophoneXylon I'm nonplussed by your posts

What "good" is musk doing exactly?

Bringing awareness

Alexandra2001 · 07/01/2025 13:38

AlisonDonut · 07/01/2025 09:28

Every single criminal that is found guilty should be deported if they were not born in the country. At the start of their sentence not the end. And be barred from ever entering again.

If countries don't want their criminals back, then all citizen immigration from that country ceases until a deal to take them back is made and signed.

This isn't difficult.

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The USA has refused to take back people we have tried to deport, as has Canada...

Then there are countries that denounce citizenship from people they don't want.

Would you be happy for say a murderer not serve their sentence, be deported and then released after 3 years in his home country?

What about countries where have no travel arrangements?

How would our Uni's function without Chinese or Indian students?

wholettheturnipsburn · 07/01/2025 13:32

@XylophoneXylon I'm nonplussed by your posts

What "good" is musk doing exactly?

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 13:27

yohohoCrimbo · 07/01/2025 12:51

But to actively encourage them to renounce their Pakistani citizenship??

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There’s no proof of that.

yohohoCrimbo · 07/01/2025 12:51

MargoLivebetter · 07/01/2025 10:08

@RingoJuice and @yohohoCrimbo the defence lawyers are not morally bankrupt, they are there to provide defence for the defendant. That is their legal duty. I don't suppose they take any joy whatsoever in defending such dreadful people but our legal system ensures that we all have the right to defence and a fair trial.

But to actively encourage them to renounce their Pakistani citizenship??

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/01/2025 12:50

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 11:54

How could a bill be squashed when there was a government with a huge majority in 2021? Johnson’s government would have got anything he wanted through parliament at that point.

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Quite right, Blossom; Johnson and his fellow travellers could certainly have got through almost anything they wanted

However they'd need to have actually wanted it, and for vacillating politicians there's a merit in introducing a bill to be "seen to be doing something about it" and then quietly shelving it when the headlines have moved on

Goldenbear · 07/01/2025 12:47

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 12:45

Did you seriously type that? Of all the disgusting things I’ve seen here that’s right up there. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Yes, absolutely morally repugnant.

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 12:45

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Did you seriously type that? Of all the disgusting things I’ve seen here that’s right up there. You should be ashamed of yourself.

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:44

Well , everyone has a right to their opinion. I don’t think I’m naive but maybe I’m wrong as I’m taking it at face value. As for UK politics maybe we do need an intervention…

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BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 12:42

Anyone who takes what he says at face value is naive. People like Musk always have a motive. In this case it’s perfectly obvious that it’s an attempt to destabilise UK politics, if he really cared about sexual abuse there are plenty of other countries he could and should include in his condemnation.

CovenOfCheeses · 07/01/2025 12:42

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:37

I have no idea what his motivation is I’m taking it at face value rather than dissecting what’s behind a decision to speak out for those who can’t. I think it can be confusing for people when they have a preconceived negative image of an individual and then that person comes out with something contrary to what they have set in their mind . He has a track record of saying things a lot of people don’t like or disagree with but on this subject he’s right so it can be hard to reevaluate sometimes. To think ‘oh - I usually take no notice of what he goes on about but this makes sense’

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-sexual-assault-spacex-flight-attendant-massage

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65502076

This is a man who cares deeply about sexual abuse and wants to highlight this about foreigners and not himself or his associates.

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-sexual-assault-spacex-flight-attendant-massage

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:39

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 12:34

Shame he didn’t use it to highlight rape by Russian soldiers in Ukraine. I guess war victims don’t matter.

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people pick their causes to be involved with. An individual can’t save the whole world but if everyone played a part it might go some way. I just don’t see how we can criticise him on this isolated issue when he’s right and getting involved and using his voice for good? There have been things he’s said that I don’t agree with but I can have an open mind and on this he is right .

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:37

Goldenbear · 07/01/2025 12:34

But what is his motivation when there are going to be safeguarding issues in the US? Why are you not asking yourself that.

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I have no idea what his motivation is I’m taking it at face value rather than dissecting what’s behind a decision to speak out for those who can’t. I think it can be confusing for people when they have a preconceived negative image of an individual and then that person comes out with something contrary to what they have set in their mind . He has a track record of saying things a lot of people don’t like or disagree with but on this subject he’s right so it can be hard to reevaluate sometimes. To think ‘oh - I usually take no notice of what he goes on about but this makes sense’

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 12:34

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:32

I’m judging him on an issue by issue basis . On this I think he’s right to get involved. It’s a safeguarding issue and safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility. Saying he doesn’t have a right as it’s the U.K.? But I worry about things in other countries where people are exploited or harmed or in danger so why shouldn’t he ? I’m not rich though nobody cares what I think but he’s got power and a platform.

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Shame he didn’t use it to highlight rape by Russian soldiers in Ukraine. I guess war victims don’t matter.

Goldenbear · 07/01/2025 12:34

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:32

I’m judging him on an issue by issue basis . On this I think he’s right to get involved. It’s a safeguarding issue and safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility. Saying he doesn’t have a right as it’s the U.K.? But I worry about things in other countries where people are exploited or harmed or in danger so why shouldn’t he ? I’m not rich though nobody cares what I think but he’s got power and a platform.

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But what is his motivation when there are going to be safeguarding issues in the US? Why are you not asking yourself that.

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:32

Whoarethoseguys · 07/01/2025 12:28

This is nonsense. And shows how people who know nothing about the full facts just take what he says at face value
Apart from the fact that he is twisting the truth for his own ends he is a national of another country with no understanding of our laws he has absolutely no right to comment.

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I’m judging him on an issue by issue basis . On this I think he’s right to get involved. It’s a safeguarding issue and safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility. Saying he doesn’t have a right as it’s the U.K.? But I worry about things in other countries where people are exploited or harmed or in danger so why shouldn’t he ? I’m not rich though nobody cares what I think but he’s got power and a platform.

CovenOfCheeses · 07/01/2025 12:32

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 11:54

How could a bill be squashed when there was a government with a huge majority in 2021? Johnson’s government would have got anything he wanted through parliament at that point.

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You can make a bill to harvest unicorn horns but if it is unviable, untenable and not economically efficient after the various layers of consultation, then it gets dropped.

CovenOfCheeses · 07/01/2025 12:29

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:22

He’s done the right thing we should be grateful he’s using his power and influence to highlight a safeguarding issue in the U.K.

You should really be trying to run your companies and get rid of government waste rather than trolling on this site Elon.

Whoarethoseguys · 07/01/2025 12:28

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:22

He’s done the right thing we should be grateful he’s using his power and influence to highlight a safeguarding issue in the U.K.

This is nonsense. And shows how people who know nothing about the full facts just take what he says at face value
Apart from the fact that he is twisting the truth for his own ends he is a national of another country with no understanding of our laws he has absolutely no right to comment.

Goldenbear · 07/01/2025 12:26

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:22

He’s done the right thing we should be grateful he’s using his power and influence to highlight a safeguarding issue in the U.K.

Why though, why has he done that, what is he motivated by, are there not any safeguarding issues in the U.S.A.?

BIossomtoes · 07/01/2025 12:25

madgesb · 07/01/2025 12:10

She's not the victim here.

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She might be if enough hate is stirred up against her. Remember Jo Cox and listen to Phillips’ election night speech.

Whoarethoseguys · 07/01/2025 12:25

He is extremely dangerous and his influence terrifies me.
I have no idea what we can do about it though.

XylophoneXylon · 07/01/2025 12:22

He’s done the right thing we should be grateful he’s using his power and influence to highlight a safeguarding issue in the U.K.

madgesb · 07/01/2025 12:10

Parker231 · 07/01/2025 11:36

Jess Philips has support from those that matter.

She's not the victim here.