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Wrote a bad trip advisor review and the location responded with my full name and called me a liar. WIBU?

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Thefatedarrow · 06/01/2025 22:51

I had a truly bad stay at a country house hotel in England over Christmas. I was charged £1500 a night for the stay, raised issues as they happened and nothing was resolved. I resorted to writing a trip advisor review when I got home where I gave 2 stars and gave the reasons why. I was not rude or offensive and I did not describe or name anyone in the post. Just talked about the venue and how vast amounts of it is still under construction, the extras they charged for that we were not aware of, the fact that dinner was booked up every night so we had to leave the venue to eat our meals.

my username on trip advisor is from an old gmail account, so it’s a nickname eg bubbles AT gmail.com and I post reviews eg as BubblesWales - ie unidentifiable.

in their response to my review on the site they wrote “dear my full name” - so they had obviously gone on to their records, looked at who stayed in the room and cross checked with the review timing.

they then proceeded to say I had lied about the events of the stay.

AIBU or is it wrong to NAME me in their response?

OP posts:
Clarefromwork · 07/01/2025 07:41

Trip adviser is so annoying (unless it’s changed) in that you can’t reply to a response to your review.

I left a negative review once and they responded to say I was lying and that I was a rival restaurants disgruntled wife! And I couldn’t reply or amend my review etc!

JoyeuxNarwhal · 07/01/2025 07:40

They've done it to bully you in to removing your review imo. I don't have much experience of writing reviews for Trip Advisor but I'd be approaching the site and asking them to remove the full name/alter it to reflect your posting name as a minimum.

BeAzureAnt · 07/01/2025 07:38

I might also mention in your public reply you are reporting them to the ICO for GDPR violation and doxxing. Give it to them. Frankly a firm that does that deserves to go bust.

mids2019 · 07/01/2025 07:36

With a very high end hotel a bad review may be really impactful given that you have a very discerning clientele. Reputation management must be really important when you have relatively few people realistically looking at such hotel prices and there is obviously competition. The manager may have wrongly decided that the review was so ranging they were within their rights to attempt public shaming.

SanctusInDistress · 07/01/2025 07:33

GDPR breach. Report them.

MikeRafone · 07/01/2025 07:29

Endofyear · 06/01/2025 23:13

OP tell us the name of the hotel so we can avoid it!!

Do you want me to print your name in full next to your post?

mids2019 · 07/01/2025 07:28

the problem with a company responding online publically with TA is that the mean score remains the headline measure and people use this when quickly scanning companies. I can see this being devastating for busiinesses.

Maybe we should have a system where a company can demand the right for a review to be taken down unless the reviewer can evidence the points of poor practise? That may give companies protection.

There are laws of libel etc. for good reason but anonymous reviews seem to be a means of avoiding these laws and leave companies in really precarious positions in effect being held at ransom by reviewers (in fact is it illegal for a reviewer to deliberately make a false review in the hope of getting recompense).

Infusion the company in this instance acted absolutely incorrectly but maybe their poor reponse was due to frustration to an online system where companies can be maligned unfairly without due recourse.

Maybe review websites need more regulation?

BeAzureAnt · 07/01/2025 07:28

ICO. Report them. They have no business using your name online like that.

To those saying businesses are having a hard time etc. I have a judgement against Yodel reached in mediation which they haven’t paid, and now I’m having to do more paperwork. Businesses are in it for themselves, and the response they gave OP shows what they are about.

Complaining privately often resorts in being ignored. The business culture of fine print and shoddy service in the UK has resulted in tripadvisor doing very well for themselves.

Londonrach1 · 07/01/2025 07:21

They shouldn't have used your full name so report them!

Londonrach1 · 07/01/2025 07:20

Had the same from a local garage who after mot my car left it unlocked on double yellow lines on a main busy road. As I used my maiden name not married name they said it was a made up review and were insulting and rude. The review was removed as it was made up according to them. I won't return to the garage and have told others about their conduct. My review was 2 star like yours saying no problem with mot etc but my car was left unlocked on yellow lines on a busy road after it's mot.

HomeTheatreSystem · 07/01/2025 07:16

OP addressed issues as they occurred: she didn't wait til the trip was over which is what their usual response is: why didn't you let us know at the time and give us the opportunity to put it right? So she gave them every opportunity to put things right but they didn't. Her review might have then said that there were some issues which she raised, but the hotel resolved them politely and promptly. Unfortunately when you charge that kind of money you have to deliver on the high expectations you set.

OP, for the meals and being unable to eat at the hotel because no tables were available, did the hotel not advise at the time of booking, that if you wanted to dine in the hotel, you would need to reserve a table for your evening meals as they were likely to be fully booked, given it was Christmas? If they didn't say that, again poor show on their part.

I think it must be very tough running a hospitality business at Christmas when people want time off/fall sick/pull sickies and that might explain why they couldn't attend to some of her issues because they were in fact understaffed but it's no excuse to call her a liar and disclose her identity. As others have said, that alone reinforces OP's 2* rating.

StellaLaBella · 07/01/2025 07:15

Crispynoodle · 06/01/2025 23:17

YABU to spend £1500 a night for a hotel! Find one for 500 per night next time and donate the 1K to food banks!

How do you know they don't? 🙄

mids2019 · 07/01/2025 07:13

Appalling behaviour on their part.

However locally businesses have been destroyed with bad reviews on community forums and I wonder what recourse businesses have when faced with harsh criticism very piblically. A legal route is very expensive and there company would have to prove your lying.

Maybe the hotel thought their only recourse was to make a misguided attempt to shame you publically as a weird form of revenge or as a warning for other potential Bad reviewers? Either way the company has shot itself in the foot.

One question though - should you complain to the company privately and only use trip advisor as a last resort?

Vintique · 07/01/2025 07:10

Nicecuppatea2025 · 07/01/2025 02:10

Actually I disagree quite a bit. You can complain in a more decent manner than a crap review. More often than not you’ll receive an apology and something appropriate to make amends (example: I had an awful night at Claridges and they gave me an apology and a whole weekend for free after I emailed them). In general, businesses do reply and do try to make amends if you give them a chance. I’m not talking a Virgin Media or RyanAir, but a five star hotel should.

Absolutely not excusing them for revealing OPs name though. That’s truly awful. I wonder who did it? I’m imagining a Basil Fawlty type character but equally could be a misguided member of staff.

its not exactly the same thing though @Nicecuppatea2025 , is it? Reviews are reviews, complaints are complaints. The purpose of a review is to give an honest appraisal of the goods or services you got. Places like TA publish reviews for other travellers to make informed decisions. Making a complaint to the hotel is different - yes you can give the company a chance to apologise and make amends, as in your experience. On the other hand, some less reputable companies might use freebies as a way to ‘buy off’ customers so they don’t leave bad reviews, enabling the company to keep getting away with the same shoddy practices with no bad publicity! OP is perfectly entitled to leave an honest review of her stay, whether or not she wanted to make a complaint too.

I also think publishing her name is absolutely inexcusable and a serious breach of GDPR.

NalafromtheLionKing · 07/01/2025 07:07

Offcom · 07/01/2025 00:07

Crispynoodle · 19/08/2024 22:44

I need to employ a cleaner how many hours per week do I need for a 5 bedroom, 3 reception room, 3 bathrooms bearing in mind only my hubby and I are rattling around in it now. Then how much should I expect to pay per hour?

Lols

This is great news for the food bank, just think how much they will get when OP downsizes to a small flat and does her own cleaning, giving them all of the proceeds plus the amount she would have spent on a cleaner 😇

maxwellparker77 · 07/01/2025 06:59

Crispynoodle · 06/01/2025 23:17

YABU to spend £1500 a night for a hotel! Find one for 500 per night next time and donate the 1K to food banks!

Why are you dictating how op spends her money?

MyDeftDuck · 07/01/2025 06:55

fourelementary · 06/01/2025 22:55

I’m sure they’re in breach of GDPR in doing so-
threaten to sue!

This.
And if they are part of a chain of hotels then take it higher, complain to their CEO or equivalent.

User860131 · 07/01/2025 06:41

Nicecuppatea2025 · 07/01/2025 01:07

Two things going here.

Absolutely they are clearly wrong and breaking all GDPR blah blah blah. End of. Trip Advisor will take that down when you flag it.

On the other side, 2 star reviews can be incredibly, massively damaging to a business long term and personally very upsetting. That level of rating is probably quite offensive for the staff. I get that it feels good to vent and you’re possibly feeling that you’re doing a good thing to warn future guests of the hoteL

Did you complain in writing to the owner of the hotel first? You mentioned you complained as things happened and then wrote the review? The next step should be in writing to the hotel (and give them a couple of weeks to respond), and not straight to keyboard warrior to get your own back.

Play silly games get shit prizes.

Nope sorry that's crap. One of the fantastic parts of the internet is having quick access to opinions about goods and services. Of course vexatious complaints are mean and borderline bullying but stating facts is fair game. Writing to the hotel is fine but writing a tripadvisor review is much more helpful for the customer and I suspect the most likely to bring about improvement.

I'm travelling to SE Asia next year. I've booked hotels myself. Tbh there's no way i would have felt comfortable doing this without tripadvisor.

Stop making OP feel bad for doing something that she's well within her right to do

HomeTheatreSystem · 07/01/2025 06:40

Diomi · 07/01/2025 06:03

Of course the business can’t be anonymous! That is my point and why there is an imbalance of power when reviewers can be.

There is no imbalance of power. The hotel has chosen to be a publicly known entity offering services to customers whose right to privacy is enshrined in law.

I completely get that there are customers out there who weaponise reviews and omit key info which would cast a less than favourable light on their complaint. Many businesses have turned their responses to such reviews into an art form of filling in the gaps oh so politely but leaving no doubt that the reviewer was a trouble maker on the take. That's the way to address the issue, not to reveal the reviewer's real identity in a misguided attempt to "restore the balance of power". It's going to backfire on them and badly.

cheekycee · 07/01/2025 06:27

Is replying with your full name not a breach of data protection?(it is!) if you did not leave the review in your "real" name.

mommatoone · 07/01/2025 06:23

Diomi · 07/01/2025 06:03

Of course the business can’t be anonymous! That is my point and why there is an imbalance of power when reviewers can be.

There isn't an inbalbalance of power though is there. The hotel knows exactly who she is. Why does the rest of the world need to know?

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 07/01/2025 06:16

@femfemlicious & @Thecrawdadssing
YES! exactly this.
from the op:

I raised issues as they happened and nothing was resolved.

I don’t get why the op is supposed to give them multiple opportunities to do the right things. She raised the issues during her stay, that was the opportunity to correct it.

she is perfectly entitled to say she had a sub par experience and frankly as a potential customer if I was paying £1500 pn and was going to have to leave the hotel to dine every night I’d want to know that before I dropped 10k on a stay.

femfemlicious · 07/01/2025 06:08

Thecrawdadssing · 07/01/2025 02:20

You can do what you want in terms of sending an email first, but what i’m saying is it’s perfectly reasonable and very normal for a disgruntled or unhappy customer to go straight to a review in 2025 after a bad experience.

It’s not necessarily more “decent” to email first before writing a genuine review of the experience you had. It’s just a different choice. It’s really helpful for customers when people are bold enough to let others know their experience of a hotel.

Especially in this case considering they raised the issue during their stay and the hotel didn’t solve the problem. They had their chance to deal with it at the time and they apparently failed to do so.

And yeah if OP emailed they may possibly have fobbed them off with an offer of a free night or something, but her initial stay there was still impacted.

And anyway if this hotel was the kind of business who were up for trying to make amends, they would’ve handled her review very differently and replied with something like “sorry you feel like this, please contact us to discuss this”. This is what many places do in response to bad reviews partly in the hope that they can make some kind of amends which will lead to the reviewer updated and amending the review.

OP did the right thing and their response proved that.

Edited

Well said👏🏿. They had a chance to rectify already. Shocking customer service for that price point

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 07/01/2025 06:07

This is 💯 gdpr breech and I’d screenshot it all now and report to ICO

At £1500 pn I’d expect perfection.
depending on the issues I’d be looking at the stay in detail and whether there is scope for raising a dispute with your credit card company or going via small claims to receive a partial refund.

ideally you have NC for this thread should also name and shame the hotel on here too… what fuckers…

I also question whether they’d be responding this aggressively if you were a man.

Diomi · 07/01/2025 06:03

HomeTheatreSystem · 07/01/2025 05:52

If a business like a hotel were anonymous it wouldn't be a business for very long though, would it? It's a hotel not some nefarious set up on the dark Web.

Of course the business can’t be anonymous! That is my point and why there is an imbalance of power when reviewers can be.

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