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Lovely friend who always changes plans at last minute.

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SayItWithCrystals · 06/01/2025 17:06

I have a lovely friend who I probably see once every couple of weeks for lunch, coffee, a walk, dinner - it’s usually just us two and we’ll spend perhaps a couple of hours or so together.

However - she always, without exception, changes the general plans we’ve agreed on.

This happens either the night before or the morning/day we’ve planned to meet. We don’t tend to plan massively far in advance, maybe a few days at most, and she doesn’t like to book particular places/times to eat, preferring to see how she feels on the day.

Sometimes that’s not a big deal - for example
she’s decided she wants to go for breakfast instead of lunch - and it’s no problem to just go along with that, and hope we find somewhere that can fit us in.

There’s a couple of times where the ‘plan’ has been to go to a particular gig or event; her suggestion but I’ve booked and paid for the tickets, and then she decides ‘she’s not feeling it anymore’ and if I want to go alone I should still go and give her ticket away. Last time this happened it was literally an hour before the gig, too late to ask someone else to go, and I was down about £30 because it wasn’t something I felt great about going to alone. The money is not the issue - it’s looking forward to something and then it all shifts, seemingly on a whim.

The other aspect is that I do get anxious about social stuff - I work hard to deal with this and to make sure I’ve worked through it all beforehand so I’m not bringing it along on the day. And I do manage this - but it takes a lot of mental effort to prepare, especially gigs etc, and the last minute changes really mess with my anxiety.

When I say it happens every single time - I mean literally every single time. What we do and where we go depends on ‘how it’s feeling right now’ and invariably that means it’s her choice. I do suggest things, places, so it’s not always down to her to think of stuff, but if she’s not feeling them then they’re dismissed.

I love her dearly and we do have a great time when we are together. I am just finding this flakiness really frustrating and I don’t know whether that’s unreasonable of me, and whether I should just go with the flow too.

AIBU - suck it up given you do always enjoy yourself and keep working on the anxiety.

AINBU - this behaviour is flaky and a little selfish.

OP posts:
Glitchymn1 · 06/01/2025 22:59

You sound lovely, she doesn’t (sorry).
She clearly thinks her time and what she wants trumps yours. She’s very selfish.

Years ago I had a friend who was always late, as in an hour or more. I’d pick her up and be sat outside her house and she would then text me and say “I’m just getting ready”. I did confront her eventually and it turned out she was just lazy and procrastinated. It put a stop to it, she was still late but more 10/15 mins!

JennyTals · 06/01/2025 22:57

The question isn't are you being unreasonable
You clearly are not

The question is why are you being a doormat ?

LittleMonks11 · 06/01/2025 22:53

And don't put yourself down.

LittleMonks11 · 06/01/2025 22:52

Do you not have many other friends or much of a busy life so that you allow her to run you around like this? Whatever answer that is, you know it's wrong she's a piss taker. Try to stick to your guns more often and see what happens. And I like others have said, let her book and pay her own way.

SayItWithCrystals · 06/01/2025 22:50

DatingDinosaur · 06/01/2025 22:39

Are you afraid you'll lose her friendship if you challenge her? Or afraid she'll get arsy with you?

A little bit BUT I believe that’s my own shadows/insecurities, other than the flakiness I’ve described she’s never been arsey or anything other than a lovely friend.

When this first started happening I did wonder if it was something I was doing or if I was being a bad friend/difficult or unpleasant to be around/etc. But she is often proactive about us getting together, so I’m assuming she is happy about that, and a lot of the plans she seeks to change are her idea in the first place - and when the realisation dawned that this happens every single time I eased up on myself a wee bit!

I do value my friendships very much, I am shy and introverted and am not someone who can easily make lots of new friends (too silent and awkward and weird 😂) so those I do have, I value greatly and I probably can be a little too flexible/people-pleasey as a result.

The replies I’ve had here have helped a lot though - I do know that ultimately I either need to put up with it or speak up about it. The lack of speaking up so far is entirely on me!

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DucksonthePondQuack · 06/01/2025 22:50

Agree with some other comments, if you enjoy her company when you do see her I would concentrate on only going for a casual lunch or coffee/a walk. Don’t book any expensive tickets or events that you wouldn’t want to go to alone, still see her but just keep it casual, nothing that is pre booked.

Floralhousecoat · 06/01/2025 22:44

Has she paid you for the £30 tickets? if not she's a twat and you need to never agree to anything that might cost money upfront, or if it's her suggestion, why isn't she paying? I'd be very annoyed she's costing you money, real friends don't do that. She's pulled out and spoilt your plans for the evening which is really not great is it?

DatingDinosaur · 06/01/2025 22:39

Are you afraid you'll lose her friendship if you challenge her? Or afraid she'll get arsy with you?

PullTheBricksDown · 06/01/2025 22:18

EuclidianGeometryFan · 06/01/2025 21:17

I think it is a control thing.
Or a type of PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) or similar.

If the proposed change doesn't bother you, let her have her own way, e.g. a change from 12.00 to 12.30.
If it inconveniences you in any way, just say no, and give her the option of sticking to the original plan or cancelling altogether.

This. Good work on pushing back about the latest arrangements. One thing: don't ever book and pay for tickets for anything with her again. If she suggests it, say 'You book, because every other time you've cancelled and I've lost money'.

Whatifitallgoesright · 06/01/2025 22:12

Have you really never talked to her about this? I would be piss-taking her about what she was going to change long ago. Did you have friends like this growing up and have you just got into the habit of always being the flexible one? If so, its unfair on you and she's a bitch for taking you for granted.

Roryno · 06/01/2025 21:54

The changing times for a coffee I could perhaps take, but the letting you down by not going to something you’ve bought tickets for at the last minute is really bad. You should have told her how much it upset you, how much you were looking forward to it and how let down you feel by her. Don’t let her treat you like this. Don’t book anything else you really want to do with her, and if she suggests something tell her you couldn’t trust her to not let you down so you’re not going with her. Let her realise her actions have consequences.

TruthThatsHardAsSteel · 06/01/2025 21:49

Fuck that noise. Good for you, sticking up for yourself and your preferences. I'm a total people pleaser but this is off the hook ridiculous. Her changes in plans aren't for genuine reasons, there's definitely some sort of game/power play that I just couldn't get on board with. After a point, I know for a fact I'd drift away from this person. I do find change very very difficult but will adapt to suit a friends genuine need. But this game, absolutely not.

Listen to your gut and your true feelings. If you want to change to the new plan, go for it. But if you don't, just don't and tell her like you have done today. Don't apologise if you can't change plans.

I think I'd have to ask her about it some time..

pikkumyy77 · 06/01/2025 21:24

Just don’t answer the text/phone requests for a time change and see what happens?

Bunniemalone · 06/01/2025 21:20

OhBling · 06/01/2025 17:16

I would find this annoying. If she does it every single time, then I would not agree to events where her flakiness would be a problem. So she wants to book a gig I'd say, "Mary, I'd love to go to that but the last 4 times you've cancelled at short notice and I've either had to scramble to find someoen or not go. So let's just stick to dinner" or whatever.

And if she changes dinner to lunch or a walk to a coffee, and YOU don't fancy it, then just say, "Sorry Mary - no problem that you want to change but I was really looking forward to getting outside so I'm going to go for the walk anyway - see you next week instead?" or whatever.

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EuclidianGeometryFan · 06/01/2025 21:17

I think it is a control thing.
Or a type of PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) or similar.

If the proposed change doesn't bother you, let her have her own way, e.g. a change from 12.00 to 12.30.
If it inconveniences you in any way, just say no, and give her the option of sticking to the original plan or cancelling altogether.

SayItWithCrystals · 06/01/2025 21:12

Thanks so much for replies, I appreciate it.

I meant to put in my original post that I’m very aware of how my people-pleaser tendencies are coming into play here - I can only agree with those who have pointed that out! And that of course is why I’ve never really tackled it or spoken about it, and that is all on me.

I’ve wondered in the past if it’s a mental
health or a control thing - I don’t think it’s the former, it could be the latter.

After reading the first few replies and in the face of the latest ‘change’ for tomorrows plan, I replied and said sorry, I’d need to stick to our original plan of lunch rather than changing to breakfast. She came back and said that was fine and suggested we meet at 12, and then literally within a few mins said no, let’s make it 12.30 instead. Maybe control? I don’t know, but a change on that scale isn’t a massive deal and doesn’t affect things hugely so I’m fine with that.

In terms of ‘the full story’ and how I treat her, I do my best to be a good, kind, generous, listening friend but one who, as we all do, has flaws. I am pretty quiet and she is not so I do a lot of listening; I’m aware that could be a drain too if someone is very quiet so I try to make sure I contribute too. I don’t bring drama, I do get anxious but, as I’ve said in my original post, I work hard on that a lot before I go places with people so that I’m not bringing that to them. I don’t think I’m hard work to be honest, I’m pretty easygoing and go with the flow.

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NewYearNewThread2025 · 06/01/2025 20:32

Op I don't think we have the full story here...how do you treat your friend? Is there a reason she's flaky or cancels? Are you hard work? I ask because I have a friend who always accuses our mutual friend of flaking on her but it's because she's so draining and miserable. She's really good at making herself sound lovely and saying she doesn't know why so and so has cancelled again but has drama and problems in her life every single day with someone. On total reflection are things exactly as you describe them?

slippersandfleece · 06/01/2025 20:28

Is she testing you? It's like a power move? As if she always has to be the one in control and she seeing how much she can push plans around before you dig your heels in? Very annoying.

GreyBlackBay · 06/01/2025 19:52

I'm actually quite surprised by the poll outcome. Lately on here everyone is out for themselves and very much 'don't do it if you don't want to'.

The occasional change is fine. Changing every time seems like a power play or that she really dies not value your time, convenience or opinion. Changing something which is booked and paid for is downright rude.

I think I'd be unavailable for changes other than a slight time adjustment, maybe 30 mins.

Mary46 · 06/01/2025 19:52

God very tiring op. Had this too with one friend. I stick to coffees now. Cinema I meet her there buy our own. One time I was driving and she suggested another eating place but I said ah we just stick to booking. Its quite hard work meeting her and never on time!

Rhaidimiddim · 06/01/2025 19:51

MsBorealis · 06/01/2025 17:20

I can handle a change of plan, but every single time? I find that extremely selfish. It would put me off making arrangements with her. She seems very in touch with her needs and preferences but not her friends.

I agree with this.

It is always what she is feeling, with no room given for you to express your preference.

VWT5 · 06/01/2025 19:46

Maybe look at it that lovely as she is, she isn’t respecting you or your time.
If it was my friend I would have to subtly “re-educate” her.
”I can make lunch tomorrow that we scheduled, I can’t change to earlier, so lets re-book for next week instead then”
And firmly fix a time and venue. Let her know that you are working it around your other commitments for that day.

Trickabrick · 06/01/2025 19:39

It’s not a little selfish, it’s a lot selfish. She doesn’t sound lovely, she sounds really self-centered with zero consideration of your time, money or feelings. I’d actually call her out on it and see how she reacts. She sounds entirely absorbed with her own wants and needs, and is using you as a back up plan until she decides what she actually wants to do.

Tia86 · 06/01/2025 19:32

Does she offer to pay back for tickets to events she has cancelled? Funny how she lets you make the bookings.
Is there any mental health reasons for her cancelling last minute? Caring responsibilities that might affect her availablity?

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 06/01/2025 19:30

What would happen if you said “Mary, I’ve just checked and you’ve changed 19 of our last plans. I’m finding it frustrating that you always have to change things”?

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