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To ask dh to help out occasionally when he is wfh

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Desupi · 06/01/2025 12:34

Dh and I have a 9 month old daughter. We both work from home, me full time, and him 2 days a week and 3 in the office.

We are in the fortunate position to have my mum looking after our daughter most days. We do pay her £300 a month which I understand is not very much in the grand scheme of things.

In my job I am required to control the business phone line and inbox for around 15 hours a week. During the times when I am doing this, or have lots of meetings, I do try and make sure I have my mum on hand, but not always if it is going to be quiet.

My mum lives 12 miles away so getting a baby who hates car rides into the car and driving that far in rush hour with her screaming is quite stressful, so if I CAN avoid having her look after little one I always do that.

My main gripe is that on the days that I decide not to have my mum help out, I do sometimes ask dh if he can watch our daughter for 30 mins if I get an unexpected meeting request or call from someone. He normally has an issue with it and says "I am working, you should have asked your mum to help today!". He does probably have more of an 'important' job than me, but a lot of the time when I walk in the office he has youtube/ a game on his other screen!

Since I returned to work his working week has not changed AT ALL unlike mine. I organised the childcare with my mum for a low price, I take our daughter there, I wfh either WHILST looking after our daughter, or in my parents house with my daughter downstairs where my lunchbreaks are basically used to give my mum a break. We pay 50/50 on bills so its not even like he pays more.

He doesn't get the guilt of not wanting to burn his mum out and not wanting to take the p* with her kindness, and having the stress of taxiing a screaming baby around.

So AIBU to ask him to occasionally step in to care for our daughter every now and then during the week?

OP posts:
PennyApril54 · 06/01/2025 13:21

I think it's maybe not so much an issue with helping but the unexpected standing in.
He should be more involved in the overall planning. With time set aside during the day (of his) to help e.g. doing drop off etc if possible .

Sanch1 · 06/01/2025 13:21

Desupi · 06/01/2025 13:00

I guess you are right and I should be getting more cover. I am just really struggling with the guilt of getting my mum to care for her so much at the moment. My mum says it is fine and wants no money, but still, I haven't wanted to take the p. I will be going down to 4 days a week next month which will help.

Well in that case you get a childminder or sort out a nursery. I'm not sure why it's so hard to comprehend. Some of us arent so lucky as to have grandparents to help and have to pay thousands and thousands per year in childcare!

12purplepencils · 06/01/2025 13:21

YABU

i don’t agree you should be working and looking after your child.

but if you do that’s your choice, and your risk. Don’t impose it on him.

JetskiSkyJumper · 06/01/2025 13:20

I agree that it's U to ask him to look after dc whilst he's working. However he should be contributing to the the arranging of childcare and ferrying your dd around so you can BOTH work.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 06/01/2025 13:20

thepariscrimefiles · 06/01/2025 13:13

Hopefully her DH is willing to pay for full time child care if he feels that the current arrangement isn't working and he won't help at all, even if he has time to watch YouTube and play computer games.

While obviously he shouldn't be watching youtube or playing games for long stretches during his work time, it also doesn't mean that he is available at any time. I am having lunch now, and so mumsnetting. At 10.15-10.30 this morning I pottered around doing washing up, making a coffee and putting some washing on. You could look at me then and think I clearly have spare time when WFH - and at that point I did. But from 11-12 I was presenting in a meeting, and so completely unavailable. Depending on what kind of job you have, being able to take some downtime when things are quiet doesn't mean that you could just take a half hour to look after a baby at any given moment, which appears to be what the OP is asking the DH to do.

JLou08 · 06/01/2025 13:20

I couldn't do my job and look after my child at the same time. Surely anyone who is doing that isn't working at full capacity or the child is being neglected. YABU, to expect this. It wouldn't be unreasonable to tell him that he needs to arrange childcare.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 06/01/2025 13:19

jadeycakes666 · 06/01/2025 13:01

I don't see why everyone is saying about WFH with a baby?

Tons of people did this while we were in lockdown and were just as productive!

People did it because they were forced to not becuase it was ideal.
People weren't as productive but employers were more understanding as there was no alternative.

It's not great for the kids involved ( and it's potentially dangerous)

It was hell on earth for me personally.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/01/2025 13:19

OP's DH is a twat for making childcare completely OP's problem. He just wants OP's mum to have the baby full time and for OP to do all the pick ups and drop offs. He has completed removed himself from this childcare issue and is carrying on as though the baby is nothing to do with him.

Lilactimes · 06/01/2025 13:18

I am a “manager” - people doing childcare whilst working are a problem in my mind.
It’s not fair on the child seeing you stare at screens when they don’t understand what you’re doing and it’s not fair on your business work place or colleagues. They ultimately have to make money as efficiently as possible to pay salaries.
i think you and your H should discuss what a reasonable week looks like in terms of how much childcare you need; find professional childcare for your baby or have a frank chat with your mum - is she being polite or does she really relish the time looking after your baby alone? then you should both discuss as a more formal routine sharing taking your baby to the nursery/ mother / childminder. This would be shared based on start times, hours worked etc.
Hope you manage to sort it out.

Wonderfulstuff · 06/01/2025 13:18

Your baby should be in child care.

As someone who had to work full time during lockdown with a toddler roaming the house and the absolute total and utter stress/almost a mental breakdown that caused I cannot understand why anyone would choose to put themselves in that position.

Pay for nursery or a childminder for the hours your mum can't do and stop giving those of us that wfh, and work flipping hard, a bad name.

Pixie2015 · 06/01/2025 13:17

You need to have appropriate childcare for your working hours its not fair on child - employer or relationship

Nanny0gg · 06/01/2025 13:17

Desupi · 06/01/2025 13:00

I guess you are right and I should be getting more cover. I am just really struggling with the guilt of getting my mum to care for her so much at the moment. My mum says it is fine and wants no money, but still, I haven't wanted to take the p. I will be going down to 4 days a week next month which will help.

Outside of work your husband should be 50/50 childcare
Inside, neither of you do it

If you're going to 4 days I hope your financial contribution will reflect that?

Does your husband pull his weight in other ways?

Ineffable23 · 06/01/2025 13:17

I get that people end up having the odd day working from home with little ones. pre-Christmas my boss' daughter was ill. My boss' choice was work with a 4 year old draped over her or don't work at all. We were in a manic phase where we needed all hands on deck so that's fine. But it is not something she would do on a regular basis and her husband had a day of the same when she was properly in work.

But surely you can't just be looking after a pre-schooler all the time while you're meant to be working?

It's fair enough to want to split the load with your husband but the solution to this is effective childcare - not you both trying to do your jobs around looking after a small child.

Screamingabdabz · 06/01/2025 13:17

Desupi · 06/01/2025 13:00

I guess you are right and I should be getting more cover. I am just really struggling with the guilt of getting my mum to care for her so much at the moment. My mum says it is fine and wants no money, but still, I haven't wanted to take the p. I will be going down to 4 days a week next month which will help.

No. You BOTH should be getting cover. He seems to bear no responsibility for his own child. Why are you doing it all?

Starsandall · 06/01/2025 13:16

I think he could help with driving your daughter to your mums house etc. It shouldn’t all be on you. But you need a proper routine as does your baby. Could you use a childminder who lives nearby to save the driving around in the morning.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 06/01/2025 13:15

jadeycakes666 · 06/01/2025 13:03

I'm just saying...during lockdown...when all childcare places were shut....and people worked from home....I had no issues with any of my staff while they were working from home with small kids.

I wasn't as productive, but from my manager's perspective it might have been close to it. That's because in order to maintain anything like a reasonable work output while working without childcare I was starting work at 6am and finishing at 11pm, spending all day trying to do both. It was absolutely awful, left me pretty broken and I still feel guilty about basically neglecting DC1 like that. There was also a level of tolerance for, e.g., me doing meetings with him on my lap that absolutely did not (and should not) continue once childcare reopened.

Almn0etd · 06/01/2025 13:14

jadeycakes666 · 06/01/2025 13:01

I don't see why everyone is saying about WFH with a baby?

Tons of people did this while we were in lockdown and were just as productive!

Who told you that they were just as productive. Productivity nose dived during lockdown and has never recovered. This country has a massive productivity people and WFH pisstake just adds to it.

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 06/01/2025 13:14

I wfh 100% of the time, my DC is an adult now, but out polos y is very clear,

NO looking after children while working. And to be honest, I wouldn’t be able to. I’m so busy when I’m working that I’m basically chained to my desk. If you work full time then you should have full time childcare arranged and your focus should be 100% on work. I’d have a look at your wfh policy if I were, because pound to a penny you’re in breach of contract

Baileysatchristmas · 06/01/2025 13:14

You can't be looking after a young baby and working, neither of you!

WhisperingTree · 06/01/2025 13:13

Definitely the benefit of WFH is more flexibility. Also, at 10 and 13, I don't feel comfortable to leave them at home all day during school holidays. But I can WFH and they won't bother me. It's just having an adult at home so if anything bad happens, DH or I can deal with it.

thepariscrimefiles · 06/01/2025 13:13

Hopefully her DH is willing to pay for full time child care if he feels that the current arrangement isn't working and he won't help at all, even if he has time to watch YouTube and play computer games.

hamsandyams · 06/01/2025 13:13

Instinct1 · 06/01/2025 13:01

"Amazing" perhaps in how you find it beneficial for yourself. I would think them less "Amazing" in that they seem to be paying full time wages for an (at most) 15 hour a week job and to be content with knowing no work or professional development is being done the other 20 hours. I am a manager (over 20 years now) and WFH full time, as do my team so have no chip on my shoulder about people being allowed to WFH. I would not think myself "Amazing" to allow this set up. I would worry about our going out of business.

Absolutely this. I’m a manager. I generally get good feedback from the team. If I found out one of my employees was spending half an hour here and there looking after their child in working hours, I’d be insisting they came back into the office full time or looking at disciplinary measures.

A good manager isn’t one who lets you do childcare while being paid to do another role.

PrioritisePleasure24 · 06/01/2025 13:13

Sorry i get things are tough but you are wrong. You or your husband should not be working and trying to look after a baby/toddler. It’s unfair to your child and to your employers who are paying you!. Can you imagine taking a child to the office?? It’s no wonder so many wfh employees are being called back to the office!

I know it’s expensive but this should of been planned for when you were expecting! But like pp you need childcare

PurpleThistle7 · 06/01/2025 13:13

viques · 06/01/2025 13:04

And we all know what well socialised and confident little people those children are who spent two years being told “You need to be quiet now, Mummy has to make a phone call/ be in a meeting.”

It is the child’s experience as well as the work ethic that makes working from home with children so very wrong.

Absolutely true - while working from home with an infant / child in an emergency is a wonderful option to be able to have (and I'm grateful for it!) it doesn't benefit anyone to do this on a structured and permanent basis. Children need to be socialising, be outside, be seeing and doing lots of different things - not every second of every day, but certainly some of each day should be spent outside, etc. And it's just not possible to work full-time 'and' parent properly.

I don't think your mum should do more than a couple days a week though - that isn't fair on anyone either.

midgetastic · 06/01/2025 13:12

We all knew who had small
Children to look after during lockdown and it certainly made a bigger load on the rest of us

If you are just as effective with children on hand your boss could lose a few positions easily

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