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To hate Americanisms...?

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Groof · 05/01/2025 22:54

I think maybe because it feels like all English-speaking cultures are becoming boring and homogenous.

New ones I've noticed that people in the UK didn't routinely say five years ago but are now EVERYWHERE:

  • birth control (instead of 'contraception' or 'the pill')
  • wait list (instead of waiting list)
  • reach out

Which ones do you hate or AIBU?

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OhcantthInkofaname · 06/01/2025 03:04

Aren't you all lovely!

ObelixtheGaul · 06/01/2025 03:04

Doesn't really bother me much, given how much language has changed over time. It's always reflected dominant influences. We don't object to the fact that nobody says, 'prithee, Sirrah' any more.

Television had a homogenising effect even before the advent of a large volume of American imports. Standardised education did a lot to eradicate local dialects, along with increased movement around the country.

Our language is fluid, it always has been. Much of it owes a lot to other nations. It's also worth noting that words such as 'gotten' were actually once prevalent in this country (let's not forget why Americans speak English in the first place). We also used to use the term 'fall' more commonly than 'autumn' at, funnily enough, the same sort of time the Mayflower first landed in America. At least some 'Americanisms' are more traditionally 'English' than our own modern tongue, because they have retained some vestiges of the language as it once was when the first settlers left the home nation, which we have lost.

Perhaps somebody historically objected to the 'Frenchisms' and all the young people suddenly wearing lingerie bought at the boutique run by a local entrepreneur...

mathanxiety · 06/01/2025 03:00

HotCrossBunplease · 06/01/2025 01:56

I don’t dislike Americanisms and I find it linguistically interesting to see them being widely adopted in the UK. What I find particularly fascinating is that British people have been watching American TV and films (movies!) for almost 100 years yet some Americanisms only seem to have fully caught on since the advent of You Tube and Tik Tok. It’s not as if we hadn’t heard Americans say “birth control” and “meds” a zillion times in the 70s and 80s, but the terms really weren’t widely used here until the last 10 years or so. I think that it has something to do with more exposure to normal Americans as opposed to actors reading a script.

A few I have noticed are:

Regular to mean “standard size” or normal eg I’ll have a regular coffee

Fine print instead of small print

Bake sale

Season for series when talking about TV

Math (more in the phrase “You do the math! than talking generally about the school subject)

”The Feds”- street slang for the police

Retainer rather than braces (teeth)

My son is eight and lives a bit of “divided by a common language” chat though- he was questioning me the other day about why Americans say things like “Five hundred twenty” instead of “Five hundred AND twenty”. I couldn’t explain it but like that he noticed.

The coffee and beverage sizes are probably in American English terms because it's generally American chains where three or four standard sizes are offered. "Normal" size isn't really a thing though - you don't find clothing in "normal" because if you did, what would you call the other sizes?
(Having said that, there used to be a designation "husky" to indicate clothes for chubbier children).

Fine print is nice because it has an implication of "finer points" or "the catch" to it. Small print seems to me to be merely descriptive, whereas fine print is both descriptive and suggestive.

"Do the math" is a perfectly good American phrase that has nothing to do with mathematical operations, and shouldn't be altered.

If "the Feds" is British street slang for "the police" it shouldn't be. It's a reference to the FBI, not a reference to "the police" in the US.

A retainer is a removable dental device for straightening teeth in the US. Braces are the train tracks sported by millions of middle schoolers across America. People don't usually mix them up.

Britons and everyone else I can think of say "one thousand five hundred", not "one thousand and five hundred", so the American version of 520 is a kind of continuation of that pattern.

daisychain01 · 06/01/2025 02:49

Annabella92 · 05/01/2025 23:22

I don't think nihilism is making people happy

Surely that's Stoicism (Ancient Greek/Roman philosophy) not nihilism...

nihilism is believing life is meaningless, stoicism is quite the reverse.

HotCrossBunplease · 06/01/2025 02:43

I just saw another one on another thread-consult for consultation.

mathanxiety · 06/01/2025 02:41

MumblesParty · 06/01/2025 00:42

@dreamingbohemian I think she means the pronunciation of new as noo in any context, and gave New York as an example.

Noo is a perfectly appropriate pronunciation. You understand the word, right?

debauchedsloth · 06/01/2025 02:40

It's not even "Americanisms", as this thread shows. I imagine (or maybe I guess) it's West Coast American which is now over here, as it were.

And it's simplistic, hasty, inaccurate and jarring.

I add "bro" and "dude" to the list. Along with making out, homie, roomie, "get fresh", "the match" which should be "game", and rest room

Iloveyoubut · 06/01/2025 02:30

AngelsWithSilverWings · 06/01/2025 00:13

@Iloveyoubut what would you say instead of meds? Is it the abbreviation of medication that irritates you or something else?

Just interested as we say meds a lot in our house as our DD has a lot of medication and it's just become easier to ask her if she has taken her meds rather than asking if she has taken her medication. I've never thought it was an Americanism. When referring to collecting her medication from the pharmacy we say that we are ordering or picking up her prescription.

She doesn't like us using the word drugs as she thinks it sounds bad so we started saying medication instead.

I think it’s more so I’ve noticed friends over the years who’ve always said prescription or medicine etc suddenly change it to ‘meds’ so I think that’s why it irritates me because they never used to say it so it’s probably not the term itself but the way I’ve noticed people I know start suddenly saying it which made it feel weird and contrived. ❤️ hope your daughter is doing ok.

YourGladSquid · 06/01/2025 02:10

Hazeltwig · 06/01/2025 01:47

But ass is another word for a donkey. Why would you want to make the word so confusing?

Homonyms are common so it shouldn’t be a problem

Isittimeformynapyet · 06/01/2025 02:06

steff13 · 06/01/2025 00:50

And it's "in THE hospital," not "in hospital."

Not for me. When Americans say "in the hospital" it sounds like there's only one hospital to my sensitive English ear.

*

My friend is always "fixing" dinner when it's not broken.

HotCrossBunplease · 06/01/2025 01:56

I don’t dislike Americanisms and I find it linguistically interesting to see them being widely adopted in the UK. What I find particularly fascinating is that British people have been watching American TV and films (movies!) for almost 100 years yet some Americanisms only seem to have fully caught on since the advent of You Tube and Tik Tok. It’s not as if we hadn’t heard Americans say “birth control” and “meds” a zillion times in the 70s and 80s, but the terms really weren’t widely used here until the last 10 years or so. I think that it has something to do with more exposure to normal Americans as opposed to actors reading a script.

A few I have noticed are:

Regular to mean “standard size” or normal eg I’ll have a regular coffee

Fine print instead of small print

Bake sale

Season for series when talking about TV

Math (more in the phrase “You do the math! than talking generally about the school subject)

”The Feds”- street slang for the police

Retainer rather than braces (teeth)

My son is eight and lives a bit of “divided by a common language” chat though- he was questioning me the other day about why Americans say things like “Five hundred twenty” instead of “Five hundred AND twenty”. I couldn’t explain it but like that he noticed.

Hazeltwig · 06/01/2025 01:47

YourGladSquid · 06/01/2025 01:41

I welcome ass replacing arse. What a disgusting word 😭

But ass is another word for a donkey. Why would you want to make the word so confusing?

YankSplaining · 06/01/2025 01:46

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 06/01/2025 00:57

Yeah I think soda is more of a Midwestern thing (or at least it was when I was a kid). We called it a 'soft drink' in California back in the 80s. I don't really know if that's the case now. I just remember having this girl join my school. She'd moved from Minnesota and always used the word 'soda' which I thought was weird. And she had a lisp. So I always thought of her as the girl from Minnethota who drinks thoda. I know, it's mean. I was 11. Go easy on me.

Edited

She was from Minnesota and said “soda”? Nah, she was lying to you. All true Minnesotans say “pop.” 😜

Goldenbear · 06/01/2025 01:46

CulturalNomad · 06/01/2025 01:33

I don't really understand what is wrong with a British person having those preferences and bringing their children up to have them

Of course there's nothing wrong with having a preference that your British children not use American slang. My point is that in today's world where a twenty-something in Berlin may be following a lifestyle blogger based in Seattle, phrases and slang begin to cross cultural divides. Younger people have grown up with this and many/most of them will adopt language that resonates with them or amuses them. It's just the modern way.

A young Chinese man speaking English used the word "ya'll" when referring to me in a conversation. I just find it so interesting that certain words and phrases have become so ubiquitous! After all, the majority of Americans would never use that phrase; it's very regional and would sound awkward coming from someone in say Vermont.

Fair enough, I do understand your point. I think it is also great that we celebrate what we have in common with each other rather than what divides us.

YourGladSquid · 06/01/2025 01:41

I welcome ass replacing arse. What a disgusting word 😭

Isittimeformynapyet · 06/01/2025 01:40

Snorlaxo · 05/01/2025 23:46

@craycray431 I think it means that the person would like any fizzy drink. Does juice cover any still drink other than water ?

Not to me. Juice doesn't cover squash or cordial.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 06/01/2025 01:39

Instinctual instead of instinctive.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 06/01/2025 01:37

Castilla · 06/01/2025 00:49

A couple things ...:
It's a couple OF things!

God, yes. It seems so standard in American speech too, not informal or regional.
I also find the preferred American collective noun 'bunch' used for just about everything somewhat irksome.

Isittimeformynapyet · 06/01/2025 01:36

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 05/01/2025 23:44

I dont know when we all simultaneously decided that we now fill out a form, rather than filling in one, but I feel like I'm the only person I know who still defaults to "fill in".

Edited

I still fill forms in 🙋🏻

Also, when did making decisions become "taking" them? Nobody ran this by me!

Bambooshoot · 06/01/2025 01:36

Normalcy instead of normality - just why, we had a perfectly good word, we didn’t need to make a new one!

And yes to “momentarily” - a shop assistant telling me they’ll be with me momentarily means they will be there for a second and then disappear, which is the exact opposite of helpful!

CulturalNomad · 06/01/2025 01:33

I don't really understand what is wrong with a British person having those preferences and bringing their children up to have them

Of course there's nothing wrong with having a preference that your British children not use American slang. My point is that in today's world where a twenty-something in Berlin may be following a lifestyle blogger based in Seattle, phrases and slang begin to cross cultural divides. Younger people have grown up with this and many/most of them will adopt language that resonates with them or amuses them. It's just the modern way.

A young Chinese man speaking English used the word "ya'll" when referring to me in a conversation. I just find it so interesting that certain words and phrases have become so ubiquitous! After all, the majority of Americans would never use that phrase; it's very regional and would sound awkward coming from someone in say Vermont.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 06/01/2025 01:32

Seasons instead of series

NeedANapAgain · 06/01/2025 01:27

Norugratsatall · 05/01/2025 23:34

Schedule (hard sck) instead of schedule (soft sh).

Negative six instead of minus six, seems so clumsy.

Sidewalk instead of pavement.

Do you also pronounce school as “shool”? Or scheme as “sheem”?

Goldenbear · 06/01/2025 01:26

MyChumYumYum · 06/01/2025 00:49

Here we go again...

Many of these words and expressions were taken to the USA by emigrants from all parts of Britain and many are still commonly used in the various countries of Britain.

"Can I have" is used in Scotland and Ireland.
"Halloween" originated in Scotland and Ireland.
"Gotten" is from old English and Scots, and still used by many Scottish people.
"Candy" is 17th century Scots, as is "Candyman".
"Sydwalk" is a Scots word attested from the 17th century.
"Cookie" was used in Scotland from the 17th century, from the Dutch work "koekje".

Those complaining about the erosion of "British" culture should remember it doesn't exist. There is your local culture, and there is everyone else's local culture. Britain contains three countries with very different histories, languages and traditions, and some of us are quite at ease with some of the old words coming back, and are happy to embrace some of the new words that come our way.

So you speak your way, please, and stop complaining about those who speak their way.

N.B. I know Ireland isn't part of Britain - included it because it shares some traditions with Scotland.

I think you are right about that as I live in the south east of England and I don't hear any of the words you have listed being used on a regular basis except, 'Halloween' when it is Halloween.

NeedANapAgain · 06/01/2025 01:22

Tumblingthrough · 05/01/2025 23:06

(H)Erbs

I never got this one and everyone I’ve asked from the UK gives the stupid Eddie Izzard quote, “Because it’s got a fucking h in front of it.” So I guess you also use a hard h to say honor, heir, honest, homage, hour, etc?