To hate Americanisms...?

You do realise that what I said was tongue-in-cheek? Or perhaps not. You obviously didn't notice my intentional use of an Americanism in my post.

Besides, there's no need to be so unpleasant in your unfounded accusations about my character.

NE Scotland and I'd say something "needs washing" rather than ""needs washed" but I've heard both used locally

Yes, "needs done" is very common in NI and parts of Ireland. More than once I've seen it haughtily corrected on here to "needs washing", which is an equally incorrect regional usage.

I’m another Scot who says needs washed.

there are so many varieties of English outwith Little Englandshire

Interesting. It’s 100% standard where I am from - Central Belt. Are you saying that you never hear it or just that you, personally, would not say it? For example, I hear “youse” and “I seen it” around me all the time but choose personally not to use them.

Sorry not you! I inadvertently quoted your response rather than the original post. Sorry again, it was pointed out earlier and I could amend the post. I agree with you!

@Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue WTF are you accusing of discrimination !

Thanks for the clarification. The post is for them then.

The person you have quoted didn’t post that list @Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue. They were quoting someone else.

🤦‍♀️. You do realise that anyone speaking English outside of the UK in an English speaking country used to be from the UK right? Unless of course they were from other European countries and learned English from Brits.

Almost sure thats why the British fought the French and colonies of the US and Canada to allow people migrating there to gain independence from monarchy and religion.

Careful your arrogance and thinly veiled discriminatory views are showing. It’s our language too.

But your examples are pronunciations not Americanisms. It’s like saying I don’t like the way Scousers say xxxx (love this accent btw!).

Thinly veiled discrimination.

We say ‘needs washed’ in NI. Well, when I say ‘we’, I don’t mean every single person in the land, before someone comes along to state they would never say such a thing, but it’s commonplace. We either say ‘it needs washed’ or (more formally) ‘it needs to be washed’. Never ‘it needs washing.’ It’s not a natural turn of phrase here at all.

It’s surprising how some posters can’t wrap their heads around that some of us have lived in the UK and in the States for years so would have way more experience with regional differences in both than they would just visiting the States or going off of what they hear in the media and see online. If we can say for most of us social media doesn’t often reflect our real life, why can’t the same be said about Americanisms.

Following this thread, I’ve seen more than enough posters moan about Americans not saying xyz in terms of British English yet have heard plenty Americans use the exact phrasing in specific regions.

Completely get it. All
those programs on tv about Brits abroad getting overly drunk, being rude, ruining local sites etc to the point that locals are rebelling were obviously all made up.

Im not saying Brits are all like that, but not all Americans are rude either. The sweeping generalisation is discriminatory at best.

Do you? Wow, I had no idea that you were in charge of the whole of the English language which includes correcting others rudely because you don’t agree.

Tell me at least you get an official title…..

Some of DH’s family is from Pittsburgh PA and the older members use that syntax (“needs washed”). Definitely regional

Scottish through and through and I would never say 'needs washed' or for that matter 'needs washing'. I would say 'it needs to be washed'.

@Dearg Nae bad - yersel?

I agree about the need to protect Doric for the future. We have a local Doric group who have always come into school to hold a Doric poetry contest for the kids. They were just saying how it has dwindled in the last 20 years - the kids look at them as they've never heard a lot of the words they use.

Sadly the Scottish Government seems intent on pushing the Gaelic agenda regardless of the small amount of speakers in certain areas.

You’re absolutely right @Funnywonder.

@mathanxiety has already told people her nationality and heritage anyway. She’s Irish as she already said (and is often found on threads about the Irish language). She’s already been very clear that one side her her family is British and about the fact that she’s lived in America for decades now. She has experience of a number of varieties of English.

“Needs washed” is the standard construction in Scotland, whereas English people tend to say “Needs washing”. Perhaps the part of the US where your friend lives was heavily populated by emigrant Scots. It’s always made more sense to me than “washing” because it’s just a contraction, cutting out the “to be” in the middle.

Ooh I can't read all 21 pages but I'd like to point out that the OED prefers realize to realise! They say that the English switched from -ize to -ise to copy French and the Americans are correct. But not for -yse, so it is analyse and not analyze. Americans made the opposite error.

In some cases (not centre, colour, but some others) the changes are because English spelling was not properly standardised until the 19th century.

I've lived in the USA over a decade and I'm used to it all now. A friend of mine was complaining that her child had picked up the construction "needs washed" which is regional dialect where they moved to. As in, "those jeans need washed," instead of "those jeans need to be washed." There are some fascinating regional dialects in the USA. Along with "needs washed," you get "yinz" for plural you and "crick" for creek. (It's Pittsburgh, and if you ever see an old video of Fred Rogers, he has the accent.)

Some of the things, interestingly, have parallels in Spanish. In Spain, you have un móvil, in Latin America you have un celúlar. Loads of different slang, even some different grammar.

Also, soda is primarily the Northeast, the Great Lakes are pop, and down South it's all Coke. "Soda" is a catergory like "soft drink".

Mathanxiety may well be American and perhaps you object to their views or their tone, but that comment is absolutely uncalled for. Some of the rudeness towards Americans on this site takes my breath away.

And you're definitely American. Surely only an American would be that didactic and arrogant

Pot/kettle?😂

Yup 100% this. And it’s quite discriminatory to assume a person is arrogant just because they are American.

Right because it used to be a season like a football season. New programs would start in September and end in May. So it was a season.