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Mum calling my childhood bully "nice" and "respectful"

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BeckyWithTheGoodBear · 05/01/2025 21:35

Hi, I don't know if I'm overreacting or not.

I was badly bullied by a former friend when I was 13. This led to an eating disorder and self esteem issues that, to be honest, have plagued me my whole life.

I'm now mid 40s and my mum is mid 70s. My mum is friends with my former bully's mother and has contact with said bully. I have told my mum recently, in detail, how I was bullied by her but didn't draw a direct line to the eating disorder.

DH, DC and I were over at my mum's house for dinner and my mum starts taking about my former bully. I point out that she bullied me and my mum proceeded to tell my DH that she thinks the bully is nice and that she has always been respectful of my mum. My mum said she is entitled to think this, which I agree with, but I think calling her nice to my face is a bit much.

I've come home and I can't stop crying. I'm not sure why I'm so triggered but I am. I feel so let down and sorry for 13 year old me and feel like my feelings are being brushed under the carpet again.

I know it all sounds a bit petty but I genuinely feel very hurt. I haven't had therapy for my but but I probably should.

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseBrick · 07/01/2025 08:36

Yanbu. Whilst she is technically correct, I don't think that's a typical reaction from any parent. Most parents would feel anger at someone who bullied their child at the time, and likely be wary of them when they were older (or of they think the bully has genuinely changed, at least have the empathy to stay silent about it)

TopshopCropTop · 07/01/2025 08:30

If after 30 years you still have this much unresolved trauma over this that it’s bothering you to this extent, you really need to get yourself some therapy.

The person who bullied you was a child, a horrible child I do not doubt. However they are now a grown adult and it is very common that adults who were bullies in childhood are deeply remorseful for their actions and carry a lot of shame for them. Perhaps it would be cathartic for both of you to talk about it and perhaps this woman is in fact really lovely and has grown up to be a good person.

But first you certainly need to get some help to resolve the lingering issues you have attached to this.

E404 · 07/01/2025 08:19

I am very protective of my children and even if the once bullies improved, I still keep a very alert eye and never "like" the bullies. This is my nature as a mum, and also I was not protected by my parents as a child this is very important to me. A mum that does not protect her child no matter what age is The Problem, not the bully. Look at animals, also look at people. Protection is very basic form of love and care.
You are now mature and can access therapy. You will understand. I wish you all the best.

MyLimeGuide · 07/01/2025 07:55

Abhannmor · 06/01/2025 11:37

Oh bullies know fine well who they have to be nice to. And who they can persecute. I would check out that therapy.

I agree with this, she is probably being extra nice to your mum on purpose, she could have changed but she still did all that hurt and pain and ruined a chunk of your life so why the hell would you want your mum saying these things about her! My mum has done the same to me, a girl who used to bully me at school, my mum says she works at morrisons and she is such a lovely girl. Their generation lacks emotional intelligence.

Fairyliz · 07/01/2025 07:47

Blimey my DC’s are now adults but I still have a mental list of all of the kids who were slightly mean to them.
I was actually talking to adult DC’s about this at Christmas and they thought it was hilarious that I still had plans to run down these kids for events they can’t even remember. I always thought I would be great in the mafia; I’m excellent at holding a grudge.
So I think your mum is being very mean and should’ve on your side.

MinnieBalloon · 07/01/2025 07:37

It’s been 30 years. Nobody is the same person they were at 13.

TorroFerney · 07/01/2025 07:32

saraclara · 05/01/2025 23:47

That's ridiculous. Her friendship is with the person's mother. She presumably just occasionally run in to the daughter. And the bullying happened 30 years ago!

OP, I think it'd be good to have another conversation with your mum, and make it clear the damage that still remains. You can say that you appreciate that this woman will be a different person now, but you'd rather not hear any more about her, or have to think about her again.

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No, her mum doesn’t have the emotional intelligence to have that conversation and the op will just be left feeling more upset.

TorroFerney · 07/01/2025 07:30

Headingtowardsdivorce · 05/01/2025 22:14

Your mum has no emotional intelligence, or very low at least.

And she shares that trait with quite a few posters here. I’ve heard the krays were very kind to their mother.

your mistake op, and I know why you did it, was to tell her and expect her to join the dots and think oh if I say that persons lovely that will upset my daughter.

Mush62 · 07/01/2025 07:14

Simple, break contact with your mother, friends are more important than family, friends have your back.

Clafoutie · 07/01/2025 07:13

thepariscrimefiles · 05/01/2025 22:16

But her daughter has recently told her about the bullying in great detail. Most normal parents would feel really upset to find out about how badly their child had been bullied and the last thing they would do is tell their child that they thought that the bully was really nice.

Her mum needs to work on her empathy and mothering skills.

Prefixing your post with 'gently' doesn't make it any kinder and less victim blamey.

I completely agree. Also, to say that the mum ‘probably doesn’t remember’ the bully as a teen as it was a long time ago is absurd and irrelevant.

XWKD · 07/01/2025 07:11

Your mother is entitled to this that someone who bullied her daughter is nice? You have to talk about this to her. She only cares about how nice this vile bitch is to her.

Nickyboo23 · 07/01/2025 06:59

I don't think your been unreasonable at all I think you should approach this bully and tell them how they made you feel as now they would probably have children of there own they would understand bullying more approach your fier get it out in the open and also go and get some help you will feel so much better with someone to let it all out too who really understands and who will sit and listen goodluck hunny😂

JollyZebra · 07/01/2025 06:55

Don't change your relationship with your mother. If you hadn't told her about the bullying until now, that's really not fair to her. She has a different view on your ex-friend because she, like you and the rest of us, have grown into different people with age and life experience.
I understand you feel resentful because you believe this person is the cause of your eating disorder, but you have not had therapy and don't mention having had professional intervention to help you with it.
Rather than brood over this and spoil things with your mother, why don't you seek the help you should have had as a teenager?

voiceofreason4663 · 07/01/2025 06:32

thepariscrimefiles · 05/01/2025 22:04

What sort of mother makes friends with the woman who bullied her daughter at school badly enough to lead to life long self esteem issues and an eating disorder, never mind telling her daughter that she thinks the bully is nice? That is such an insensitive and cruel thing to say.

I would certainly reduce the time I spent with her and look into getting some therapy.

This.

neilyoungismyhero · 07/01/2025 00:49

If I were ever to come across the utter shits who bullied my grandson for years I certainly wouldn't hold back on mentioning the fact whether they were 25, 35, or older.

TempestTost · 07/01/2025 00:41

The thing is, people who are bullies at 13 aren't always when they are adults. Some can be very different - it's not that uncommon for bullies to have had their own growing up issues they were not handling well, because they were children.

You mum met this woman as an adult, and her experience of her is differernt than yours.

Your mum is your mum, so it might be worth telling her how upset you feel. Not in a "your opinion is wrong" kind of way, but tell her that you are struggling with it, regardless of what this woman is like now. It will allow her to e sensitive to your feelings and also, she might be able to support you.

But I think you should probably address your feelings about the bullying with someone like a therapist.

Fraaances · 06/01/2025 23:56

You’re upset because your mum had basically invalidated your experience entirely.
I experienced this, so what happened to you didn’t matter/was fiction.
(She didn’t want to be affected by it)

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 06/01/2025 23:54

I really don't see how you can say 'I'm normally very close to my mum but I haven't told her how hurt I feel'. If you're really that close to your Mum normally, then surely you should be able to tell her exactly how what she said made you feel. Obviously I realise that as a teenager it may have been more difficult to make it clear to your parents how bad the bullying was, and how upset it was making you, but you're an adult now, talk to your Mum, tell her how bad it was, and how you feel now too. Communication is key to good relationships, you simply can't expect anyone to read your mind or anticipate how you feel, you really do have to tell them.

Pussycat22 · 06/01/2025 21:57

StillTryingToKeepGoing · 05/01/2025 22:19

So the 13 year old version of this woman was a bully. Have you seen her recently and is she still like she was or has she grown up and is remorseful of how she behaved as a very young teenager ?

I wouldn't care, I'd belt the living daylights out of said bully!!

BeckyWithTheGoodBear · 06/01/2025 21:49

Hi all,

Thanks for all the replies and opinions. I agree that it is something that I probably need to work through. I didn't realise I was still so bothered by everything until my mum's words at dinner. I also feel like my parents didn't really support me, or even really recognise my issues, when I was a teenager so it raised some complicated feelings within me.

I'm normally very close to my mum but I haven't told her how hurt I feel. She called me today and I didn't mention it. I think she knew I was upset so she didn't bring it up. An apology would be nice but I don't think that will come and it will be buried.

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LeaderBee · 06/01/2025 12:06

I had a somewhat related experience as a youngster; I had a great friend who lived just opposite us, but my mother considered them a bit rough and made effort to have me not go and play with them.

there was someone else who lived down the street whose parents she considered "respectable" enough to be associated with, and I was friends with them for a bit but as they got older they became quite a bit of a bully, especially when we were attending high school together.

they say you can't choose your family but you can choose your friends, but it seems that wasn't true either and I was made to hang around with this arse for longer than I really wanted to, and resent that i wasn't "allowed" to be friends with my real friend because she thought the other kid came from a better upbringing.

ExtraOnions · 06/01/2025 11:46

You shouod not be allowing someone, who you haven’t seen for 30 years, have this level of impact on your life. You are an adult now, and able to process this as an adult. As long as you are still crying, or avoiding social functions etc, you are allowing the bullying to continue.

I was badly bullied at school, emotionally and physically, but have worked it through with therapy and self-help, and I don’t give a tut where my bullies are, what they are doing, ever anyone says about them, they have no power over me.

Abhannmor · 06/01/2025 11:37

Oh bullies know fine well who they have to be nice to. And who they can persecute. I would check out that therapy.

caringcarer · 06/01/2025 11:00

It's because she's your Mum and she's supposed to have your back. That's why it hurts so much. I'd go low contact with Mum.

Squadrona · 06/01/2025 10:25

saraclara · 05/01/2025 23:47

That's ridiculous. Her friendship is with the person's mother. She presumably just occasionally run in to the daughter. And the bullying happened 30 years ago!

OP, I think it'd be good to have another conversation with your mum, and make it clear the damage that still remains. You can say that you appreciate that this woman will be a different person now, but you'd rather not hear any more about her, or have to think about her again.

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This.

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