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SIL's Christmas tantrum

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maoleis · 05/01/2025 10:45

My SIL joined us for Christmas Day. She wanted a dairy and gluten free dinner, which we sorted. Then we opened presents. She sulked about what she was given, then abruptly left, telling MIL and FIL that they'd bought her rubbish (she was given really nice stuff). I would have expected this from our little one, but SIL is 40.

On the subject of random crap, SIL gave me an absurd present (think something as bad as a roll of sellotape), with which I of course pretended to be delighted.

I find her such a pain. She holds the entire family hostage with the threat of an emotional outburst, and few people in the family seem capable of calling her out on her BS. Because she's extended family, I bite my tongue, but AIBU to want to call her out? She completely ruined the vibe for the rest of the day.

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JustSawJohnny · 05/01/2025 14:32

I think I'd be subtly trying to get the message across that the behaviour is never going to stop unless challenged. Of course, stand up for yourself and your wife, but outside of that you can't really do too much without overstepping, in their eyes at least.

They probably don't feel like they're enabling her but they are, just by accepting her ridiculousness without comment or action.

It's sad for the SIL, in a way, as her family should be trying to help her see that acting this way could really hamper her life.

People like that don't tend to have good relationships with ANYONE, and it all literally starts at home.

maoleis · 05/01/2025 14:30

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 05/01/2025 14:27

I hope this doesn’t offend, but do you think the chorizo was a not so subtle dig about your sexuality?

Edited

Yeah, a totally standard chorizo. I did wonder if there was something Freudian about it. Maybe I'm supposed to f myself with it.

We gave her a spa weekend, for comparison.

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pictoosh · 05/01/2025 14:28

I voted YABU but only because I KNOW there is NOTHING you can do about people like her.
You will never redress the balance, make her see the light or even shame her into behaving better. This is who she is and she will staunchly dig her heels in against anyone who tries to confront her.

The only thing you can do is change how you react to her and yes, how much she rankles you.
Learn to dismiss her. Let her storm and sulk and cause problems on her own. Being entirely reasonable will only highlight how utterly unreasonable she is. She can make a fool of herself if she wants to. Alone.

cantthinkofausername26 · 05/01/2025 14:28

Please tell us what she gave you. She sounds like a brat! Laugh it off and hope she runs away to the circus

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 05/01/2025 14:27

I hope this doesn’t offend, but do you think the chorizo was a not so subtle dig about your sexuality?

MyDeftDuck · 05/01/2025 14:24

It never ceases to amaze me why people pussy foot around individuals described by the OP!
The SIL spoilt Christmas and she is supposed to be an adult?? Get a grip and put a stop to her childish, unpleasant behaviour.

SadSandwich · 05/01/2025 14:23

Ok let’s talk chorizos

JC03745 · 05/01/2025 14:21

Her gift to me was a blank A5 notebook and a chorizo

As in a chorizo sausage? 😆
Unless you are a connoisseur, it was bellota pig and has some gold mixed it- how utterly bizarre. Did anyone laugh. Did your wife not laugh or saying anything?

maoleis · 05/01/2025 14:13

Thanks everyone. I'll try to answer the questions that have come up.

It's my DW's family.

We were all sat in the same room when she decided to storm off. No one challenged her on calling her (actually very nice, expensive, and thoughtful) presents rubbish. She received what she'd asked for, which makes it even funnier/worse, but of course things were the wrong style, colour, etc.

I have called her out on her behaviour once in the past, when we first met, and she became quite upset (shouting, stomping, slamming doors). The extended family have a tendency to mollycoddle her and her brother - my DW is more self-sufficient and mature, so her relationship with MIL and FIL is healthier, and I agree that enabling with silence only enforces the behaviour. The difficulty in challenging her these days is that I would be the only one doing so. I did say to MIL not long after SIL blew up that we really liked what they'd gotten us.

Her gift to me was a blank A5 notebook and a chorizo (as per my earlier post under a different username - I'm new here and have made two without meaning to). Not awful presents, but I'm not sure what the thinking was. Maybe next year I can give her a poem, written on lined paper, and framed, about my experience with said chorizo.

Avoiding her or reducing contact used to be quite easy, but she's just recently moved from elsewhere in the UK to a few minutes away. I suspect I'll be seeing much more of her.

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Dappy777 · 05/01/2025 14:10

People like this should always be called out. It infuriates me the way we just accept bad behaviour. We all know foul, rude, obnoxious, selfish, or toxic arseholes who seem to sail through life. When you mention their behaviour, you just get a shrug and a "well, you know X, that's just what he's like." Yes, I know that's what he's like, and what he's like is a c. I go out of my way to be kind and polite to everyone. Sometimes I wonder why I bother. Maybe I should be a c as well. Seems to work for other people.

Weefox · 05/01/2025 14:02

Print out these messages and send them to her - wrap them up nicely and say 'think is an early present for next Christmas'. She needs to know how most folk view this selfish, rude behaviour.

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 05/01/2025 14:02

People like this seem to feed off drama. I think giving her as little attention as possible probably helps.

CharlotteCChapel · 05/01/2025 14:02

Don't ask her next year, if she complains tell her why

osmoticrocket · 05/01/2025 13:59

BitterTits · 05/01/2025 11:55

Dying to know what the sellotape-equivalent crap present was. A Pritt Stick? Tell her she's not invited in future and ditch her drama.

It was a blank A5 notepad and a sausage.

LlynTegid · 05/01/2025 13:59

The only question should be who calls out her behaviour, you, FIL, MIL or DH. Or her own DH/DP if she is married or in a long term relationship.

MultilingualMummy · 05/01/2025 13:56

Rather than calling her out - which will delight her as she will be happy for the drama and opportunity to victimise herself, stop hosting her, go low contact and give her as little attention as possible. If your DH insists she is invited tell him to sort her a dairy free meal and inform him he is responsible for getting her a gift. If she throws another tantrum like that completely ignore her and engage with your kids as if nothing is going on. That's the only way to deal with an adult toddler.

twoshedsjackson · 05/01/2025 13:53

@itsjustbiology, I think you're on the right track; it might give her (brief) pause for thought if she begins to realise how predictable, and tiresome, she is.
Maybe a call to your husband, "Ten minutes, you win!" implying that you have been playing a secret game of "twat bingo" and he has filled his scorecard.
She's going to be annoyed with you anyway, so to quote the old saying, "Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb".

justasking111 · 05/01/2025 13:52

maoleis · 05/01/2025 10:45

My SIL joined us for Christmas Day. She wanted a dairy and gluten free dinner, which we sorted. Then we opened presents. She sulked about what she was given, then abruptly left, telling MIL and FIL that they'd bought her rubbish (she was given really nice stuff). I would have expected this from our little one, but SIL is 40.

On the subject of random crap, SIL gave me an absurd present (think something as bad as a roll of sellotape), with which I of course pretended to be delighted.

I find her such a pain. She holds the entire family hostage with the threat of an emotional outburst, and few people in the family seem capable of calling her out on her BS. Because she's extended family, I bite my tongue, but AIBU to want to call her out? She completely ruined the vibe for the rest of the day.

Just send a message

"Dear SIL we held a sweepstake on how long it would be before you threw a tantrum. I won so 👍"

TrickyD · 05/01/2025 13:52

thescandalwascontained · 05/01/2025 11:35

People really need to stop pandering to people like this. It's why they continue to behave appallingly.

Yes. But the person concerned will claim ‘mental health issues’ . This seems to be used as a trump card to excuse any behaviour, however dreadful.

Laura36TTC · 05/01/2025 13:44

Absolutely pathetic (your SIL that is)

itsjustbiology · 05/01/2025 13:43

Again SIL..shall I get your coat for you? Its becoming a regular event this your tantrums,let me get the door for you. Would have been my exact response there and then and bugger the consequences.

Justkeepingplatesspinning · 05/01/2025 13:39

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 05/01/2025 10:58

@maoleis give her a subscription to whogivesacrap.co.uk

The only issue with this is that it would be a fantastic present!

EdithStourton · 05/01/2025 13:30

People like this get away with it because no one tells them to knock it off. The question is, are you willing to risk a rift with more people than just SIL by doing so?

I'd be willing to countenance a rift, so at minimum I would refuse to host her next year, on the basis that, despite great consideration being given to her dietary requirements, she was very rude to her parents, spoilt the day and you don't fancy a repeat. Or even better, get your DH to say this to both her and his parents ('Im sorry, neither Maoleis or I are prepared to have Wendy here next Christmas after the way she behaved. You are of course still welcome.')

Jeeeeez · 05/01/2025 13:13

Why are you letting her? You can’t control how she acts but you can control how you participate.

Gremlins101 · 05/01/2025 13:13

This is my MIL, though she is usally great at xmas to be fair. Everyone walks on eggshells around her. I have stopped and don't care any longer. I'm at the stage that if it costs my marriage I don't care. Equally, when my husband runs to me about something his mother said, I tell him it's his problem and he helped create a monster. The whole situation becomes insufferable when this kind of narcy behaviour kicks off.