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Foodbank buying items from shops?

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girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 21:57

I always thought that foodbanks were given out of date stock when I saw them collecting from shops and supermarkets.
I have now found out they buy items from certain retailers at a reduced price.
They put orders in. Where does the money come from to purchase?
Also they have vans, which cost money in petrol etc.
Anyone else think the same, never realised they were collecting stuff they had ordered in. I thought it was donated to them?÷

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ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:32

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:28

l did, and replied to it.

The one where I cleary wrote that there are genuine reasons why some people may need foodbank support?

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:31

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:25

Feeding people a hot meal isn’t really the same as the role of a food bank though is it ? In many cases when someone arrives at a food bank for the first time, it means that that person has been identified as needing various levels of help - of which the food bank is maybe just one avenue - and has been referred on. Help to feed your family can be the first step on the ladder - as one excellent post upthread pointed out.

I didn't say they were the same - my answer was in response to being asked if drug addicts should survive. Foodbanks didn't really exist at that time, but we (and other agencies) did also collect leftover food (which we got from a local bakery), which they could take away after the meal (rolls, bread, filled sandwiches, sausage rolls, cakes etc) and we also had a small selection of clothes they could take if needed. We did what we could but it was hole plugging.

UndermyShoeJoe · 05/01/2025 09:31

girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 22:47

Maybe that's what I was thinking of then.
There's the app where you can collect food yourself.

You’re thinking of olio. It’s a wood waste thing to save food from landfill bonus side is it can help people who cannot afford as much food as they require or even any food at that point in time.

It’s fabulous tbh. I’m a registered fwh on olio and sometimes there is enough waste to fill the whole of a 7 seater. It’s bonkers what some of these shops would be throwing in the bin.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:28

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:20

No, but if you actually read my previous reply you'd already know that.

l did, and replied to it.

YellowPixie · 05/01/2025 09:27

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 22:07

You have to be referred

You don't just rock up because you've run out of stuff

Untrue in some cases. I just googled -

"the foodbank has been running for over 12 years it is totally non referral with no paper work involved we provide around 500/600 food parcels each week people travel from all over Glasgow"

"Our fully stocked community pantry is open to everyone. (No referral required) Pop in anytime during opening hour"

"Our food bank is open from 10am to 12 noon monday to friday
All those who are in need are welcome with no requirement for a formal referral."

"Members of the community are welcome to come along and help themselves to bakery products, fresh fruit and vegetables and cupboard essentials. The pantry is open 7 days a week 11am-3pm and no referral or assessment is needed."

And that's just in Glasgow. Now I am totally on board with reducing food waste and think it's briliiant that there are organisations which are redistributing food which would otherwise have gone in the bin. But let's not pretend that food banks are only for people who can't afford food - anyone can "rock up" to any of the places I linked and get free food, whatever their financial circumstances.

Auburngal · 05/01/2025 09:27

Think support of dealing with addictions needs to be better promoted and show it’s free.

Since the lottery has restricted sales of ten scratch cards per transaction, the woman in a pp used to buy 20-25 cards of £2 and £3. Now she buys 10 £5 ones.

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:26

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:23

That's understandable. I suppose most of us are a bit helpless to do anything about the bigger picture.

Sadly, yes.
I understand people wanting to do something, because something is better than nothing, but I also feel that more professional and trained support is needed.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:25

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:17

I used to feed drug addicts a hot meal 3 times a week, so no.
People in these situations need more than a foodbank though, they need support with their addiction.
I actually felt like we weren't really improving anything for them in the long term. Several disappeared and least one died of an OD. It felt like pouring boiling water down the drain while constantly trying to boil the kettle. Maybe that experience shaped how I feel about aimlessly feeding without addressing the bigger picture.

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Feeding people a hot meal isn’t really the same as the role of a food bank though is it ? In many cases when someone arrives at a food bank for the first time, it means that that person has been identified as needing various levels of help - of which the food bank is maybe just one avenue - and has been referred on. Help to feed your family can be the first step on the ladder - as one excellent post upthread pointed out.

Onlyvisiting · 05/01/2025 09:25

girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 22:13

Fair enough, but who pays the van and the running costs?

They are a charity.
You could ask the same question on how they pay rent for the food bank premises?
They are supported by donations. I don't at cash rather than food as feel they will get what they need and far better value.
It's always struck me as odd that a) shops encourage food bank donations but at full price sale- well why wouldn't they but.....
And that people prefer to give food. It feels a bit like virtuous giving and must be such an inefficient use of funds, the same amount as someone might spend on their FB donation in waitrose could be far better spent buying elsewhere, buying bulk and buying the most needed products

But like to give food as it feels like a 'thing' where ad they worry that money will he abused I guess.
Honestly- I'd prefer to see an optional food bank donation on every card payment in food shops, like PayPal does, click here to donate £1 to xyz charity.
And I often do it because 'hey, it's just £1' and it's money to a charity I probably wouldn't have made the effort to support without a nudge.

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:23

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:17

I used to feed drug addicts a hot meal 3 times a week, so no.
People in these situations need more than a foodbank though, they need support with their addiction.
I actually felt like we weren't really improving anything for them in the long term. Several disappeared and least one died of an OD. It felt like pouring boiling water down the drain while constantly trying to boil the kettle. Maybe that experience shaped how I feel about aimlessly feeding without addressing the bigger picture.

Edited

That's understandable. I suppose most of us are a bit helpless to do anything about the bigger picture.

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:21

valentinka31 · 05/01/2025 09:13

That's why I put that note in brackets. I don't condone those labels - I was quoting others who say things like that.

Fair enough I just personally think repeating those terms isn't helpful. They're either people eligible for help or they aren't.

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:20

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:18

So you’re lumping together the different circumstances of all those who use foodbanks and labelling it all as a consequence of lack of responsibility and bad choices ?

No, but if you actually read my previous reply you'd already know that.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:18

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:09

Of course it's up to me how I feel about something - why on earth did you feel the need to write that?

It's not about being not worthy, it's also about people taking some sort of personal responsibility and accepting that some choices have consequences.

So you’re lumping together the different circumstances of all those who use foodbanks and labelling it all as a consequence of lack of responsibility and bad choices ?

valentinka31 · 05/01/2025 09:17

Hattie1970abc · 05/01/2025 09:09

Anyone who uses a food bank or is thinking of going please do not be put off by any of these minority negative comments. What we feel at our food bank when someone comes in ‘Thank God’ because at least they are looking after themselves and their families needs. The food bank may be the first rung on the ladder for helping them get back on their feet. No judgement is made to anyone who walks through our doors.

Yes, that is exactly how it should be. If they are at a food bank then it means there is a support organisation who has referred them, so they are no longer on their own, and have a chance of being helped back into full independence.

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:17

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:11

So drug users should just go hungry and starve?

I used to feed drug addicts a hot meal 3 times a week, so no.
People in these situations need more than a foodbank though, they need support with their addiction.
I actually felt like we weren't really improving anything for them in the long term. Several disappeared and least one died of an OD. It felt like pouring boiling water down the drain while constantly trying to boil the kettle. Maybe that experience shaped how I feel about aimlessly feeding without addressing the bigger picture.

valentinka31 · 05/01/2025 09:14

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:13

This poster was explaining in depth as to how food banks support different situations and wasn’t judging. At all. They were deliberately quoting the awful terms frequently used on MN, to make an important point. Is this pathetic criticism really all you took away from one of the most carefully considered posts here ? Lots of actual judgement on the thread for you to call out if you’re that desperate.

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thank you for understanding what I wrote 😊

JessiesJ99 · 05/01/2025 09:14

Areolaborealis · 04/01/2025 22:47

Following with interest. I thought I'd misheard the Sainsbury's delivery driver when he said he'd just done a delivery to the local foodbank.

We get 3 or 4 deliveries every week from the supermarkets at the food bank I'm at.

valentinka31 · 05/01/2025 09:13

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:03

So it is not all useless drug addicts who can't get a life, or nousy dodgers surfing through life on benefits. (to be clear: I am referring to commonly-used labels here) there was absolutely no need to reinforce those commonly used labels and drug addicts and people on long term benefits as a lifestyle choice are no more or less deserving of help at the foodbank. The food bank has criteria- if they meat the criteria they can get help. We can't and shouldn't start judging who is "worthy" of help.

That's why I put that note in brackets. I don't condone those labels - I was quoting others who say things like that.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/01/2025 09:13

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:03

So it is not all useless drug addicts who can't get a life, or nousy dodgers surfing through life on benefits. (to be clear: I am referring to commonly-used labels here) there was absolutely no need to reinforce those commonly used labels and drug addicts and people on long term benefits as a lifestyle choice are no more or less deserving of help at the foodbank. The food bank has criteria- if they meat the criteria they can get help. We can't and shouldn't start judging who is "worthy" of help.

This poster was explaining in depth as to how food banks support different situations and wasn’t judging. At all. They were deliberately quoting the awful terms frequently used on MN, to make an important point. Is this pathetic criticism really all you took away from one of the most carefully considered posts here ? Lots of actual judgement on the thread for you to call out if you’re that desperate.

SheFearedTheWorst · 05/01/2025 09:11

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:04

Why can't you buy it yourself? I thought foodbanks were temporary support for basics not a regular option or meeting 'dietary requirements' surely you'd just pick up the basics from them and buy whatever special goods you need yourself? I can't imagine being unable to afford to feed myself and then asking for specific foods for free from charity. Maybe I just don't understand how this new world works.

The new world? There have always been charities feeding those who can't afford to buy food. There has always been poverty and inequality. It's absolutely scandalous that in 2025 we still have so much need for food banks, and it's criminal that under the Tories the need for food banks soared so greatly while wealth accumulates at the top. But it's nothing new - have you really only just learned that some people prefer not to watch others starve and choose to help them instead?

It's not Twelfth Night yet, maybe you should pick up a copy of A Christmas Carol? I think it will blow your mind.

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:11

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:09

Of course it's up to me how I feel about something - why on earth did you feel the need to write that?

It's not about being not worthy, it's also about people taking some sort of personal responsibility and accepting that some choices have consequences.

So drug users should just go hungry and starve?

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:11

Olderkids · 04/01/2025 23:06

Get a job?

Lots of people can't get a job that easily or at all.

ueberlin2030 · 05/01/2025 09:09

sushibelt · 05/01/2025 09:05

If you don't like the foodbank's criteria and think some of their users aren't worthy of help then that's up to you.

Of course it's up to me how I feel about something - why on earth did you feel the need to write that?

It's not about being not worthy, it's also about people taking some sort of personal responsibility and accepting that some choices have consequences.

Hattie1970abc · 05/01/2025 09:09

Anyone who uses a food bank or is thinking of going please do not be put off by any of these minority negative comments. What we feel at our food bank when someone comes in ‘Thank God’ because at least they are looking after themselves and their families needs. The food bank may be the first rung on the ladder for helping them get back on their feet. No judgement is made to anyone who walks through our doors.

Blogswife · 05/01/2025 09:07

People donate in cash so they buy what doesn’t get donated
They don’t use out of date food either !

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