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Foodbank buying items from shops?

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girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 21:57

I always thought that foodbanks were given out of date stock when I saw them collecting from shops and supermarkets.
I have now found out they buy items from certain retailers at a reduced price.
They put orders in. Where does the money come from to purchase?
Also they have vans, which cost money in petrol etc.
Anyone else think the same, never realised they were collecting stuff they had ordered in. I thought it was donated to them?÷

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sashh · 05/01/2025 08:12

I can only talk for my local one. They are mainly a community shop so obviously they buy and sell food.

I have a monitor on my TV that documents the adverts I watch, in return I can choose from various vouchers, the vouchers are worth about £10 a month.

I don't need them at the moment so I asked if they were useful to the community shop. They asked for Argos vouchers which I thought was because sometimes they have families moving in to the area with nothing and you can get lots of household items there.

What they do, which they actually asked if I minded, is raffle them, that turns a voucher in to a pallet of food.

Mine does give out food that is out of date but not as part of the food bank or shop, they are just put on a table for people to take.

The foodbank is a bit different because of the shop, so they can give out fresh meat and veg. They also have a policy of giving out 'a nutritious meal' so for a family, as well as the tins / packets they might get a (frozen) chicken, potatoes and veg with maybe some gravy granules or stuffing.

I'm on a large council estate so some of the people who need help might have left a refuge or be an asylum seeker. As someone said above, people don't always have a fridge or freezer, when you move in to a council property you get the property, no flooring, curtains, cooker, fridge.

So it is a good idea they also run family cooking where families come after school and cook a meal together that they can take home.

They also run cooking classes because not everyone knows how to cook and even if you do if you have just arrived from Libya or Somalia you might not know what to do with a tin of baked beans.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 05/01/2025 08:06

@girlfriend44 and dont forget to also add toothpaste, toothbrushes, dog food, baby milk powder and nappies to your donations.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 05/01/2025 07:37

Food banks can't give out, out of date or short date food, they may get given it but it tends to end up being binned. I can't give out, out of date food at work when I run competitions etc. It's no different at a food bank.

Taken from Trussell Trust website
"We can only give out food that is in date, so please no out of date or very near its expiry date."

Someone will also do a stock check and keep a list of what they are running low on, what they don't need etc. They will then rotate stock in the store so they know what needs giving out first.

They can also recieve grants from local councils (ours did but it got stopped when we changed political parties) and local companies very often donate money, so they can buy fresh food. We have lots of large UK Hqs in our area who actively donate money weekly and at Christmas and Easter send in massive donations.

Pickledpoppetpickle · 05/01/2025 07:07

I make a donation every month to our local food bank. They have running costs - lime a van - that they need to be able to meet.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 05/01/2025 06:53

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 22:12

Still no use

? I've been to food banks and they definitely get a lot of stuff that is going out of date. Most of the food where I went was on the turn, that's how they got it.

WiddlinDiddlin · 05/01/2025 05:15

I use out of date food - its easy, because I have a big chest freezer so I can save stuff, I can repurpose stuff like take the salad out of sandwiches and freeze them without it, or cook up a batch of something thats about to go out of date, then freeze it.

I have a healthy store cupboard full of spices and flavourings, so if my TGTG box has a glut of something or a random selection of something, I can make a curry or a chilli or use it to pad out some batch cooking or make soup.

I also have time, working from home and a partner who is my carer who is here all the time, to run around collecting TGTG bags and batch cooking to make use of short dated and random stuff.

I also managed to afford a whole load of dishes that can go from freezer to microwave or airfryer, they werent cheap!

Someone using a foodbank may have none of that, they may be working all the hours that exist for nowhere near enough money and running around after kids, and trying to cook with none of the basic staples, none of the luxury extras, no vast chest freezer. Maybe they haven't had the benefit of learning to cook from a parent who could cook either.

Making use of short dated/past date stuff is great, but it isn't something everyone can do, it is something some of us may choose to do.

LBFseBrom · 05/01/2025 04:53

girlfriend44 · 04/01/2025 21:57

I always thought that foodbanks were given out of date stock when I saw them collecting from shops and supermarkets.
I have now found out they buy items from certain retailers at a reduced price.
They put orders in. Where does the money come from to purchase?
Also they have vans, which cost money in petrol etc.
Anyone else think the same, never realised they were collecting stuff they had ordered in. I thought it was donated to them?÷

People donate money to foodbanks so that food can be bought to give to people. I thought everyone knew that, the Trussell Trust for example is a charity well supported by many. They receive food donations but are not always going to have exactly what is needed so have to buy. They do not take out of date tins and packets, anything like that which is donated is thrown away - the last thing they need is for people to get food poisoning from what they are given.

RubyOrca · 05/01/2025 02:26

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:04

Why can't you buy it yourself? I thought foodbanks were temporary support for basics not a regular option or meeting 'dietary requirements' surely you'd just pick up the basics from them and buy whatever special goods you need yourself? I can't imagine being unable to afford to feed myself and then asking for specific foods for free from charity. Maybe I just don't understand how this new world works.

Count yourself lucky that you can’t imagine being unable to afford food. Sadly, many people struggle to afford the absolute basics (food, shelter, healthcare). I’m not in the UK, but none of these are completely free in my country. Then you add things like education (also not free, but mandatory) for kids and it doesn’t take long to see how people struggle.

Charities continue to provide and advocate for those who are struggling. Including providing food.

It’s nice to be able to think that this is just something people deal with for a week or two, but poverty is more pervasive than that. No amount of budgeting and tightening the belt can get you around an income that is below what you need to manage. Food banks make a difference for people week in week out. Including for people with medical food restrictions.

PeppyGreenFinch · 05/01/2025 01:41

MrsKwazi · 05/01/2025 01:36

i stopped donating to food banks when I read a thread on here about families accessing food banks for 2+ years continuously, and then learned this was a regular thing. And ‘shopping’ at the food bank.

The reason why there are more food banks than ever is because people cottoned on to how the system works. Same with our country’s bloated benefits bill. Food is an emotive subject, no one want to see anybody go hungry, so people donate and keeps the whole thing going.

Edited

I used to donate regularly but have stopped as I instead donate to developing countries now.

thomasinacat · 05/01/2025 01:39

Nanny0gg · 04/01/2025 22:23

I tried that too.

Got nowhere

Surely a separate box for foodbank items isn't beyond the realms of coding - and a separate bag on the picker's trolley

Ocado has managed it. You can now add £2.50, £5 or £10 donations for food bank to your online shopping trolley and they match it, then convert to groceries for distribution to food banks. Well done Ocado.

MrsKwazi · 05/01/2025 01:36

Soangerb · 04/01/2025 22:01

Food banks started with good intentions but are now just completely broken. Around here you have people who have factored in the free food bank food in to their costs, it’s not an ‘emergency’ need but something they account for so they can spend money on other things. “Build it and they will come”.
i have no doubt some are in desperate need but unfortunately many have become reliant on them for all the wrong reasons.

i stopped donating to food banks when I read a thread on here about families accessing food banks for 2+ years continuously, and then learned this was a regular thing. And ‘shopping’ at the food bank.

The reason why there are more food banks than ever is because people cottoned on to how the system works. Same with our country’s bloated benefits bill. Food is an emotive subject, no one want to see anybody go hungry, so people donate and keeps the whole thing going.

SantaBakula · 05/01/2025 01:31

MaterCogitaVera · 05/01/2025 01:24

Whatever the point of this thread was, it’s prompted me order some of the things from my local foodbank’s Amazon wish list, so thanks for that, OP!

I think the op was hoping for a pile on the 'greedy / lazy ' sods that use the food banks .
But the opposite has happened, its raised awareness, proved links to how to and who to donate to .
So thank you @girlfriend44

MaterCogitaVera · 05/01/2025 01:24

Whatever the point of this thread was, it’s prompted me order some of the things from my local foodbank’s Amazon wish list, so thanks for that, OP!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/01/2025 00:44

RegulatorsMountUp · 04/01/2025 22:08

Probably just avoid bread and eat what I could eat which didn't contain allergens. I certainly wouldn't ask a charity to buy in specific foods for me. Then I'd work my arse off to feed myself and family from my own means 🤷‍♀️

It's not just bread that's necessary to avoid - it's pasta (a very common foodbank item because of it being a cheap source of calories), noodles, most cereals, pulses, grains and other foods that aren't long shelf life either contain or are likely to be contaminated by gluten during manufacture. If I were dependent upon a foodbank for whatever reason, I'd have to ask for things labelled gluten free rather than risk being made ill.

It's bad enough for somebody being poor, we don't have to say 'well, you can live upon boiled potatoes three times a day, starve, be in excruciating pain or have us contribute towards your eventual death from cancer, then' as punishment.

TeabySea · 05/01/2025 00:42

People donate money to foodbanks.
People who use them have allergies/intolerances and can't just have the standard stuff.
Our local buys things like dairy-free subs, eggs, and occasional treats.
Fortunately I'm in a relatively affluent area (in the main) and people are happy to help out with donations, time and organisation. Lots of shops donate end of day produce with short dates.

CarolinaWren · 05/01/2025 00:41

KnewYearKnewMe · 04/01/2025 23:33

All, I'm sure @RegulatorsMountUp must be on a wind up.

I refuse to believe anyone is that ignorant of the working poor in this day and age.

I don't know. I recall a celebrity interview once where the person self righteously criticized people who had fallen on hard times, as this person stated that she had had times where she wasn't working and she had to sell some of her jewelry collection for money to pay her bills. She didn't understand why poor people didn't just do that.

Crazybaby123 · 05/01/2025 00:35

PrincessofWells · 04/01/2025 22:49

Well surprise, surprise, most homeless people have mobiles and so they should - they couldn't function without them. So judgy and tbh abhorrent attitude here.

Exactly, I don't get how people are so clueless, do some people just not concern themselves with anything about other people to the point where they think homeless people are all old men from the 1890s, living under bridges feeding from the bins and tying their trousers up with string. Some people really have their heads up their bums.

handsdownthebest · 05/01/2025 00:35

Food banks are not allowed to collect or hand out ‘out of date’ food and are highly regulated.
Vans are paid for and run by donations and fundraising. Sometimes food such as staples especially tin tomatoes and baked beans have to bought in.
why don’t you go and volunteer at one to find out how they work and look after people in food poverty in this country?

CrowleyKitten · 05/01/2025 00:27

theriseandfallofFranklinSaint · 04/01/2025 23:30

@Nanny0gg that's good to know as I always donate 'treat' items - biscuits, crisps, etc. (as well as basics like cereal) as families need nice things to eat as well as tinned goods and the basics often donated.

the good thing is, things like biscuits and crisps ARE likely to be included in the main parcel. ours was the week before Christmas, and we had some fancy harrods chutney, mince pies, some chocolates and biscuits etc. alongside the staples.
they also asked about if we had any pets that needed feeding. but as I had rats, not cats or dogs, they didn't have any policies for that, but after discussing it with me, they gave us extra cereal and pasta.

TiredYetWired · 05/01/2025 00:23

I volunteered at a foodbank years ago (disappointed they are now a part of the fabric but that's another debate) and people would regularly give cash donations so off we went to the local supermarket and bought the staples/whats actually need, as food donations are not hugely consistent. Not sure why you'd even think this was an issue.....MN though, innit

MILLYmo0se · 05/01/2025 00:21

Unescorted · 04/01/2025 23:02

Not all food banks operate in the same way... Many are independent, especially in more rural areas. Some will be by referral others allow self referrals. People can self refer to the one I work at. Because it is in a small community we find it is when people are truly desperate that they call us. There is very little / no piss taking.

We deliver in our own cars and I have yet to claim petrol money.

We get cash donations from people who have their own groceries delivered and local businesses. Also some legacies in people's wills.

We buy in groceries of all sorts... Not gluten free because we have a very generous donor that gives us more than we can use. But we do buy in things like nappies if needed as well as things we run out of. We can't rely solely on donations which come in waves... ATM we have more cereal and meatballs than we know what to do with, but have run out of rice and cat food.

The supermarket doesn't give us a discount...we get a standard delivery once a week which we order on line.

Re stuff from hampers... If it has alcohol in then we can't give it out (other FB might). Anything obviously Christmasy packaged we keep forgetting next year now... Unless it goes out of date before then... In which case we offer it up to other FB and community kitchens.

Opened or out of date things we can't give out.

Somehow I don't think the OP will feel like people using food banks should have pets either....

purdypuma · 05/01/2025 00:08

A lot of food banks local to me will only allow a specified number of food parcels to individuals within a certain period of time eg 6 months & then they have to wait eg 6 months before they are eligible again. This has been standard for quite some time now as some had developed a dependency on the foodbanks & instead were choosing to buy drugs and/or alcohol instead of food. In the cases of substance users (drugs/alcohol in most cases) most prefer simple uncomplicated food requiring little to no preparation eg pot noodles or pasties.

ScholesPanda · 05/01/2025 00:07

"Hello hungry person, have some out of date chicken"

"What do you mean your kids got campylobacter last time?"

CrowleyKitten · 05/01/2025 00:06

StScholastica · 04/01/2025 22:36

And how long do you deem is "long enough" for someone to get back on their feet exactly? 2 weeks? Three weeks?
It's abhorrent that as a society we need food banks at all, much worse that we judge people who have to use them.

took us four months to get my husbands refused disability benefits back. it left us worse off by more than our rent, every month. fortunately, on the mandatory reconsideration, it was correctly reinstated.

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