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To think I’m not doing anything wrong

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Viserrisk · 04/01/2025 15:12

Back to work on Monday after a lovely 2 weeks off! I’m currently reading a book (well I was before I came on here) with a glass of wine and left over Pringles from Christmas.

DH was out doing his hobby and he’s just come back home and asked me why I was drinking. I said I’m having a glass of wine, not exactly having shots rolling around everywhere. He said that I shouldn’t be drinking while looking after DC and that drinking alone in the house when it’s not Christmas anymore is “weird” DC1 is upstairs in their room and DC2 is sat on the floor playing.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Pinetreethree · 04/01/2025 16:42

DowntonShabbie · 04/01/2025 16:37

More than what? Maybe she lives next to the hospital. So it's your children more at risk, because you'd have to drive them.

See how it works? Calculatung risk is not easy.

Good point, reminds me of an actual situation!

@GoldsolesLugs A friend in my old area lives a literal 5 minutes walk from the hospital (less if you were running there as you may in an emergency). She does not own a car as can't afford to run one.
Both DP and I did, and still do, have our own car. Even with completely empty roads and driving at the speed limit, I would have been at least 15 minutes getting to hospital.

Is my friend still creating more risk by not having a car?

Jennyathemall · 04/01/2025 16:42

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:35

Yes, but your children are slightly more at risk because you don't have a car.

As driving is statistically one of the most dangerous activities performed by man (or woman (other genders are available) drunk or sober) you could argue anyone without a car is at reduced risk compression to those with one.

DowntonShabbie · 04/01/2025 16:41

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:36

I'm only arguing this silly and pedantic point because of hyperbole like this - I've nowhere said that it's a serious risk or that I'd judge anyone for taking it. I just want people to accept that it is a risk.

Ok well you admit that you shouldn't eat marshmallows when you're alone with children because there's a chance you will choke to death, so that's a risk to your children.
And you definitely shouldn't have a bath when you're alone with the children. You could drown, or slip. Also you shouldn't drive with your children. Definite risk there.

You can't just pick one perceived risk and focus on that to judge. Do them all.

Juiceinacup · 04/01/2025 16:40

I don’t even drink and I think he’s being ridiculous, never mind now he’s back have another one if you feel like it. I’m sure a couple of glasses of wine over the festive period is not actually one step away from being an alcoholic.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 04/01/2025 16:40

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:35

Yes, but your children are slightly more at risk because you don't have a car.

They'll also be 'slightly more at risk' than people who live directly opposite a hospital 🤷‍♂️

Jennyathemall · 04/01/2025 16:40

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:25

The risk is obvious and has been outlined (child has accident, child needs to go to hospital quickly, long wait for ambulance, quicker to drive). I'm saying that there is a very small risk. Making me provide specifics is just sealioning.

Are you saying that there is absolutely no risk?

Edited

if you actually have any knowledge/training of risk then you’ll find the definition of a qualitative risk is the potential consequences x the likelihood of the event happening. Yes any of those scenarios could happen (potential consequences) but the chances (likelihood) of them happening during the short window OP is drinking is minuscule. So even the most simple risk assessment (like the one you in your head 20 times a day as a parent without even thinking out it) would conclude the risk to having a glass of wine is vanishing small.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 04/01/2025 16:39

I love how so many assume everyone drives and everyone has access to a car 🤣

It's SO Mumsnet.

EdithBond · 04/01/2025 16:39

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:35

Yes, but your children are slightly more at risk because you don't have a car.

How?

Gogogo12345 · 04/01/2025 16:38

Chowtime · 04/01/2025 15:17

Yes YABU - what if one of your children needed to be taken to hospital and you were over the limit to drive?

Silly comment. What if you can't drive anyway? Or is it ok to have a drink then?

DisabledDemon · 04/01/2025 16:38

MauveVelcro · 04/01/2025 15:24

Sitting and drinking a glass of wine at 3pm, when you're in charge of children young enough to sit on the floor and play seems very odd to me.

If I came home to dh in this exact scenario I'd probably be of the same opinion as op's dh. And whilst I wouldn't make a song and dance of it, I'd be secretly watching dh's alcohol consumption in future tbph, in case I'd missed something.

How exceedingly joyless.

Ewock · 04/01/2025 16:38

Chowtime · 04/01/2025 15:17

Yes YABU - what if one of your children needed to be taken to hospital and you were over the limit to drive?

Following your logic no parent should ever drink, no matter what the time, as they made need to take a child to hospital.
I presume you never drink a single drop so that you can follow your own words?

ssd · 04/01/2025 16:38

You enjoy yourself op, sounds great

DowntonShabbie · 04/01/2025 16:37

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:35

Yes, but your children are slightly more at risk because you don't have a car.

More than what? Maybe she lives next to the hospital. So it's your children more at risk, because you'd have to drive them.

See how it works? Calculatung risk is not easy.

ManchesterTarts · 04/01/2025 16:37

Chowtime · 04/01/2025 15:17

Yes YABU - what if one of your children needed to be taken to hospital and you were over the limit to drive?

What nonsense. With that thought process, you would never drink.

CountZacular · 04/01/2025 16:37

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:34

No! I made no prescription at all - do what you like. I just don't like people saying that it doesn't increase risk at all. I understand why they do it; it's because drinking is very, very, very, very slightly putting your interest ahead of your child's and they think this makes them bad (or at least look bad), so they have to insist that there's no risk at all. Sorry, I won't redefine reality just to take care of your feelings.

You seem to want to claim that the increased risk is the glass of wine, but actually you keep mentioning not being able to drive.

So if OP’s DH has the car the risk of her having that glass of wine hasn’t changed anything then, has it?

Unless you were trying to argue something different specifically about drinking a glass of wine in which case what was it?

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:36

OnceMoreWithAttitude · 04/01/2025 16:34

OK, so we have covered the risk of the OP having a glass of wine while Dc are in the house wrt hospital, and the possibility of OP getting a carcinogen-caused disease from her glass of wine...but has anyone mentioned the PRINGLES?

An obvious UPF. Risk of obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, hypertension and kidney issues from the salt etc.

DEADLY.

I'm only arguing this silly and pedantic point because of hyperbole like this - I've nowhere said that it's a serious risk or that I'd judge anyone for taking it. I just want people to accept that it is a risk.

Megifer · 04/01/2025 16:36

Chowtime · 04/01/2025 15:17

Yes YABU - what if one of your children needed to be taken to hospital and you were over the limit to drive?

I hope you have a spare car just in case yours breaks down when if the DC need to get to hospital.

And then a spare in case the spare breaks down.

And a lightning conductor on your roof just in case.

And a fire extinguisher in every room

Don't forget, nothing requiring gas in case there's an explosion

👍

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:35

EdithBond · 04/01/2025 16:35

Do people arguing about a possible need to drive not realise that many of us don’t have a car. We manage. Even in an emergency.

Yes, but your children are slightly more at risk because you don't have a car.

EdithBond · 04/01/2025 16:35

Do people arguing about a possible need to drive not realise that many of us don’t have a car. We manage. Even in an emergency.

OnceMoreWithAttitude · 04/01/2025 16:34

OK, so we have covered the risk of the OP having a glass of wine while Dc are in the house wrt hospital, and the possibility of OP getting a carcinogen-caused disease from her glass of wine...but has anyone mentioned the PRINGLES?

An obvious UPF. Risk of obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, hypertension and kidney issues from the salt etc.

DEADLY.

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:34

Imnotarestaurant · 04/01/2025 16:32

There is a risk to absolutely everything.

Risk of choking while eating. Risk of falling down the stairs. Risk of making a cup of tea and dropping the kettle and scalding yourself.

Are you saying you don’t do any of these while looking after children?

No! I made no prescription at all - do what you like. I just don't like people saying that it doesn't increase risk at all. I understand why they do it; it's because drinking is very, very, very, very slightly putting your interest ahead of your child's and they think this makes them bad (or at least look bad), so they have to insist that there's no risk at all. Sorry, I won't redefine reality just to take care of your feelings.

DowntonShabbie · 04/01/2025 16:33

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:25

The risk is obvious and has been outlined (child has accident, child needs to go to hospital quickly, long wait for ambulance, quicker to drive). I'm saying that there is a very small risk. Making me provide specifics is just sealioning.

Are you saying that there is absolutely no risk?

Edited

No it hasn't. Child has accident, long wait for ambulance, you have two children there ..what kind of accident do you think needs immediate rushing to hospital, with one adult and an extra child? Because anything I can think of would require two adults, one to drive and one to hold/treat/monitor this terribly injured or ill child that can't wait for a taxi or the assistance of anyone else.
I'm still waiting for an example that would require an immediate drive to hospital without anyone to help.
Is the "risk" zero? No, it never is. But it's so small.as to be not worth thinking about.

EdithBond · 04/01/2025 16:32

@Viserrisk YANBU.

I can think of nothing nicer, on such a cold winter’s day as this, snuggling up with a good book and glass of wine. You’re on holiday. Would it be odd to do so on holiday elsewhere? Would he find it odd you had a glass of wine while reading by a pool?

The ages of your kids, they hardly need constant vigilance and attention at home. I guess your DP has a different view, which he’s entitled to if he doesn’t like to drink when alone with the kids. But, frankly, it’s none of his business. You’re not being neglectful or irresponsible.

As for it being weird to drink alone in the house (which you weren’t), does that mean the many, many people who live alone, or are alone because everyone’s away or out, should be abstinent? How preposterous!

Imnotarestaurant · 04/01/2025 16:32

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:25

The risk is obvious and has been outlined (child has accident, child needs to go to hospital quickly, long wait for ambulance, quicker to drive). I'm saying that there is a very small risk. Making me provide specifics is just sealioning.

Are you saying that there is absolutely no risk?

Edited

There is a risk to absolutely everything.

Risk of choking while eating. Risk of falling down the stairs. Risk of making a cup of tea and dropping the kettle and scalding yourself.

Are you saying you don’t do any of these while looking after children?

Pinetreethree · 04/01/2025 16:31

GoldsolesLugs · 04/01/2025 16:25

The risk is obvious and has been outlined (child has accident, child needs to go to hospital quickly, long wait for ambulance, quicker to drive). I'm saying that there is a very small risk. Making me provide specifics is just sealioning.

Are you saying that there is absolutely no risk?

Edited

There is risk in everything. If I drive my child to hospital there is a risk a distracted or drunk driver will crash into us.
There is a risk the first time you take any medicine as you may be allergic.
There is even risk in OP or anyone having the children on their own at all as any one of us could simply drop dead, leaving them unattended.

It's a small increase in 'risk' to drink a glass of wine, and not worth worrying about. Otherwise our lives would be very limited and filled with worry assessing the negligible risk of every small action.

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