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Do I tell the ex's wife what he's really like?

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Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:00

So long story short. I have two DD 12 and 10 with ex - we have seperated over 6 years officially but we were done at least 3 years before that largely due to ex infidelity and screwing me over money/business.

Fast forward to today we have both remarried and had more children.
ex is always difficult and has always made issues of everything - hiding actual income ( we started a business together which he is director of and it makes millions) so CM is low in comparison.
childcare arrangements are always based on his needs and will canx last min if something more important comes up. But the main crux is if he can't do something ie collect DD because one has a sniffle for example he will ALWAYS call me (I shouldn't answer I know) and start a conversation to attack me and goade me about how shit of a mum I and that I dnt care about DD and I would send them illness or not. I know this sounds like a non issue but he triggers me because he was like this in our marriage - everything was my fault when it went wrong.
Anything positive was down to him.
it's now showing with our DDs. And it triggers me.

His mrs is really good to my girls but I know he puts me on loud speaker shows my messages to her when we argue (no doubt making me to be a crazy bitch which is why he left me according to her).
im so sick of just accepting what he says to me for the sake of the girls and he still ends up being father of the year that can't do wrong in DDs eyes as I hide the shit he gives me. Literally.

Im so tempted to get my back and just list chronologically with evidence the facts of our marriage and divorce and after to his Mrs so she understands to some extent what a prick he is to me. I know I shouldn't and will make no difference and I will look like the crazy bitch but I just want to cause shit in his life like he does to me just by triggering me as he used to when I was married to him. I'm petty I know but after almost 10 years of covering his shitty behaviours I'm done because nothing changes and he seemingly has just got away with his shitness .

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ACynicalDad · 04/01/2025 11:46

All i might be tempted with is to quietly say one day if you ever want a coffee there’s lots i could tell you. Then it’s up to her

MILLYmo0se · 04/01/2025 11:46

It won't cause any shit for him, in fact you will make his life easier because you will have reinforced the image of you as a crazy eijit.
If you want to both irritate him and save your own sanity stop engaging in the bullshit. Don't get into back and forth, I'd reply with 'k' or thumbs up emojis where applicable and not reply at all as much as possible. Grey rock him, you know what he is like, the games he is playing and damage he is doing, you are never going to get justice or pay him back for what he is done. Knowing what he is doing and playing into it is self-sabatoge on your part (and I'm not at all dismissing how unfair it all is or how hurt you are and its human nature to want to expose the lies and manipulation ), the only control you actually have is to save yourself by dragging yourself out of the mire of shit, you can't control anything around him or her.

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:45

Bakedpotatoes · 04/01/2025 11:42

Her face would have dropped anyway because you can't actually say anything other than blaming yourself why she can't go. They were the facts, he didn't want his family to get ill so cancelled.

You don't have to be mean about it but you are actually enabling them to be treated like crap by covering for him. You don't even have to be shitty about him, yes, they'll be upset but I am so over women covering for crappy men. I've done the same so no judgement - but I've recently stopped and he's actually been better because the kids are calling him out on it now.

i was doing this for my children - but after all that he came anyway. So they've gone and I look like the cow who said stuff which was not true?

he said to me in our marriage that by the time he's done messing with my head I'd be too f*ed up to want to be with anyone else and trust them.

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Bakedpotatoes · 04/01/2025 11:42

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:36

I told my DD who is ill and her bday weekend to celebrate with dad that dad said as your ill he doesn't want his family to get ill so he doesn't want you: and her face dropped. I can't do that to them

Her face would have dropped anyway because you can't actually say anything other than blaming yourself why she can't go. They were the facts, he didn't want his family to get ill so cancelled.

You don't have to be mean about it but you are actually enabling them to be treated like crap by covering for him. You don't even have to be shitty about him, yes, they'll be upset but I am so over women covering for crappy men. I've done the same so no judgement - but I've recently stopped and he's actually been better because the kids are calling him out on it now.

Robogob · 04/01/2025 11:39

The one practical thing that will help in the short term is to never answer his calls and never call him. Only send and reply to texts if absolutely necessary.

CuddlyDodoToy · 04/01/2025 11:38

She is married to him and has her own experience of living with him.

If she is happy and he is good to her, she isn't going to change her opinion of him just because your experience with him is different. You will just come across as a bitter, jealous, batshit ex-wife.

If she is unhappy with him, she will already know what he is like, so you don't need to tell her.

I was once very happy with my ex-husband. He was kind, loving and gentle. There was nothing he wouldn't do for me. We adored each other.

Then he feel out of love with me and - to me - became a different person. I didn't recognise him anymore. He was still a "good" person, but the generous, loving man had gone.

Of course, he hadn't changed really. He was the same man, he just didn't love me anymore. His new wife now has the man I once had. They love each other. Why should I want to spoil that, unless I feel bitter and jealous? Even when the pain of him leaving me for her was raw, I would not have said anything to her about it.

Maintaining my dignity was important. Twenty years later, I'm glad I let him go without drama. I feel nothing for him now and - as far as I am aware - they are still happy together.

Accept that he doesn't love you anymore and that affects your relationship. Also consider how your behaviour affects the dynamic in your relationship. The very fact that you feel the need to badmouth him to his wife suggests toxicity on both sides of your relationship with your ex-husband.

Leave their relationship alone and concentrate on being happy with what you have.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/01/2025 11:37

Oh and to add to above - if he’s already treating her badly and she’s planning an exit, her opinion won’t really matter for long as she’ll stop being part of yours /your DDs life soon.

either way, it doesn’t matter what she thinks of you.

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:36

Bakedpotatoes · 04/01/2025 11:35

Honestly, grey rock him and stop enabling him by hiding his shitty behaviour to his children. He doesn't turn up, don't hide the fact and cover it just say 'daddy says he's busy so he's cancelling, I don't know why you'll have to ask him', if the kids question why you don't speak to daddy anymore or upset just say 'dad isn't being very nice to me so I am putting in boundaries' etc.

You only have a few more years having to interact and then the children can do this themselves. Keep your head up!

I told my DD who is ill and her bday weekend to celebrate with dad that dad said as your ill he doesn't want his family to get ill so he doesn't want you: and her face dropped. I can't do that to them

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/01/2025 11:36

She will either believe you or she won’t. If she believes you, that’s because he’s already treating her the same now she’s married to him. If she doesn’t, it’s because he’s managing to continue to mask who he is with her and she believes you are the crazy one, this will just strengthen her belief that you are crazy, it won’t change her mind. But if she does double down on you being insane, it will make it harder for her to admit to herself the problem is him when the time comes that he stops hiding who he is from her.

There is no good outcome for you for this and most importantly, nothing you can do will improve her opinion of you.

stop answering his calls. Any text - stop reacting even if he triggers you, learn to give it a moment and before hitting send, imagine him reading it out, will it be proof of your insanity? Professional cold sounding messages only.

Bakedpotatoes · 04/01/2025 11:36

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:28

I have moved on. I dnt even give him a seconds thought until he contacts me for the girls and just his way of talking and deflecting really triggers something deep in me and the anger comes to the surface.
I won't message her. I agree it's so cringey even thinking it. I just hate how he gets away without any accountability -
my daughter wants a new jacket cost £100. He agreed he would pay half. Now he is claiming poverty. Even though he is living in luxury but anything for our children he can't afford . I know this is tale as old as time but how can he get away with it? If my husband did this I would call him up
on it.

In this case, I would say, 'sorry DD dad said he would pay half and now I can't afford the whole coat'

Bakedpotatoes · 04/01/2025 11:35

Honestly, grey rock him and stop enabling him by hiding his shitty behaviour to his children. He doesn't turn up, don't hide the fact and cover it just say 'daddy says he's busy so he's cancelling, I don't know why you'll have to ask him', if the kids question why you don't speak to daddy anymore or upset just say 'dad isn't being very nice to me so I am putting in boundaries' etc.

You only have a few more years having to interact and then the children can do this themselves. Keep your head up!

EmmaMaria · 04/01/2025 11:32

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:05

I know it would achieve NOTHING she is living a good life with him but I know it will annoy him. Because he denies my version of what happened. From the affairs to the theft of our business. And the fact he doesn't show me any respect and seemingly has more of a go at me than in her presence really triggers me.

So as others have said, do not argue with him and limit your reasonable communication to written forms. You are giving this man too much head space.

Bornnotbourne · 04/01/2025 11:32

You sound like you are stuck in the cycle of abuse still. Really recommend blocking him and using a parenting app.

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:29

But I also read how unhinged I sound.

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Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:28

I have moved on. I dnt even give him a seconds thought until he contacts me for the girls and just his way of talking and deflecting really triggers something deep in me and the anger comes to the surface.
I won't message her. I agree it's so cringey even thinking it. I just hate how he gets away without any accountability -
my daughter wants a new jacket cost £100. He agreed he would pay half. Now he is claiming poverty. Even though he is living in luxury but anything for our children he can't afford . I know this is tale as old as time but how can he get away with it? If my husband did this I would call him up
on it.

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WhatMe123 · 04/01/2025 11:27

No it would make you look more the fool tbh op. Just leave them to it

glittertime · 04/01/2025 11:20

This is not a him issue its a you problem.
Op you need to move on with your life just as he has with his life.
Dont start something up to cause drama its just nit picking.
It will take time for you to heal but you will and for the new wife she will see who he really is in the long run or they just might be together for decades because they click and get on.
Just thank your luck stars you dont have to put up with him.
As i said above you need to move on and let it be now.

StormingNorman · 04/01/2025 11:19

They’ll get your chronological list and have a good old laugh over how crazy you are. Lots of guffaws about how you need to move on.

You need counselling to get him out of your head. Being triggered after all these years is your problem to solve. Counselling will help you get some emotional distance.

Baileysatchristmas · 04/01/2025 11:12

if the marriage has damaged you, then it is up to you to seek help so he no longer has the power to trigger you.

This is so true. I have done a load of work on myself, and had tons upon tons of counselling and honestly, my ex is nothing to me now - and I only wish I'd been able to get to this point sooner, because it's great.

I simply don't care. Not in any way does he bother me, I have zero emotion about him now. And it's so freeing.

Fluffyholeysocks · 04/01/2025 11:11

Stop answering his calls. If he leaves a message, take a few minutes to think of a reply. I'd take all the emotion out of it - stop jumping to answer his calls for him then to attack you. Grey rock. Keep to facts.

Pinkissmart · 04/01/2025 11:10

OP, think this through.
You want to ‘prove’ you’re not crazy by getting in touch with his current wife and spouting off about him? That is a bit bonkers.

If you want to ‘prove’ anything just stay completely calm in every interaction.

Respectfully, if the marriage has damaged you, then it is up to you to seek help so he no longer has the power to trigger you.

ImNoSuperman · 04/01/2025 11:09

Only communicate with him through a parenting app. Block his number. You're letting him continue to be abusive. Stop.

Harrysmummy246 · 04/01/2025 11:08

I think you'd be better to grey rock. So factual replies, don't answer the calls or just stick to a script 'thanks for letting me know, I'll pick them up as planned, goodbye'
Don't rise to him, he's still getting things over on you

Baileysatchristmas · 04/01/2025 11:07

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:05

I know it would achieve NOTHING she is living a good life with him but I know it will annoy him. Because he denies my version of what happened. From the affairs to the theft of our business. And the fact he doesn't show me any respect and seemingly has more of a go at me than in her presence really triggers me.

I am sorry it's so triggering for you, but this is a you issue, not a him issue. You need to disengage. It will be better for you in the long run, and better for your relationship with your DDs because at the end of the day, it's not good for them to hear you ranting and raving either.

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:07

Baileysatchristmas · 04/01/2025 11:06

Grey rock. Stop talking to him on the phone. Just email or text only. Whatever nonsense he comes up with just reply with "grand". And ignore ignore. She won't believe you, and at the moment you're playing right into his hands anyway.

I know I've just given him what he wanted. But he has a habit of just getting under my skin. Just undermines me in everything with the DD. I'm

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