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Do I tell the ex's wife what he's really like?

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Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:00

So long story short. I have two DD 12 and 10 with ex - we have seperated over 6 years officially but we were done at least 3 years before that largely due to ex infidelity and screwing me over money/business.

Fast forward to today we have both remarried and had more children.
ex is always difficult and has always made issues of everything - hiding actual income ( we started a business together which he is director of and it makes millions) so CM is low in comparison.
childcare arrangements are always based on his needs and will canx last min if something more important comes up. But the main crux is if he can't do something ie collect DD because one has a sniffle for example he will ALWAYS call me (I shouldn't answer I know) and start a conversation to attack me and goade me about how shit of a mum I and that I dnt care about DD and I would send them illness or not. I know this sounds like a non issue but he triggers me because he was like this in our marriage - everything was my fault when it went wrong.
Anything positive was down to him.
it's now showing with our DDs. And it triggers me.

His mrs is really good to my girls but I know he puts me on loud speaker shows my messages to her when we argue (no doubt making me to be a crazy bitch which is why he left me according to her).
im so sick of just accepting what he says to me for the sake of the girls and he still ends up being father of the year that can't do wrong in DDs eyes as I hide the shit he gives me. Literally.

Im so tempted to get my back and just list chronologically with evidence the facts of our marriage and divorce and after to his Mrs so she understands to some extent what a prick he is to me. I know I shouldn't and will make no difference and I will look like the crazy bitch but I just want to cause shit in his life like he does to me just by triggering me as he used to when I was married to him. I'm petty I know but after almost 10 years of covering his shitty behaviours I'm done because nothing changes and he seemingly has just got away with his shitness .

OP posts:
Grammarnut · 05/01/2025 18:42

Unknown1111 · 04/01/2025 11:05

I know it would achieve NOTHING she is living a good life with him but I know it will annoy him. Because he denies my version of what happened. From the affairs to the theft of our business. And the fact he doesn't show me any respect and seemingly has more of a go at me than in her presence really triggers me.

Let it go. Don't speak to him. Set up arrangements and ignore phone calls. Block him if necessary. He can email. You are happy with someone else, what happened in your other marriage is water under the bridge and is spoiling your life now. Cast it on the waters and forget about it.

Mumof3confused · 05/01/2025 18:34

Don’t do it but DO work with a coach to help turn this on him. Ie the coat. Let him buy it and then pay him half instead of allowing him the pleasure of denying you money he promised you.

VBL · 05/01/2025 18:25

Your ex is a narcissist. You are doing the right thing by not telling the children sadly they will see for themselves one day .
The new wife won’t care and it won’t change anything anyway so it’s a complete waste of time . There are some useful books and online therapist about coparenting with a narcissist. To be clear you are under financial abuse ( now classed as non violent domestic abuse) and post separation abuse . I experienced something very similar for years. It’s frustrating and there are no winners, but stay cool.
I hope you can get some advice and support . There are actually some great things on Instagram if you don’t have the money or resources to see someone regularly who can help. Sorry I know how stressful it is, how much energy it takes up and how much anxiety it causes . He’s a piece of work but remember he is not a happy person . You can be and keep being a great mum by protecting your the kids . Sending love x

Rosscameasdoody · 04/01/2025 18:59

PeppyGreenFinch · 04/01/2025 12:00

Bloody hell.p, I’m sorry, OP. Did you have a good lawyer? You could have had both.

I’d have sacked my lawyer the minute they suggested that as an option.

WilfredsPies · 04/01/2025 17:55

EdithBond · 04/01/2025 14:33

@WilfredsPies that’s great advice which has worked for me. I’ve scrubbed the bathroom many a time haha!

Me too 😂

mnreader · 04/01/2025 17:55

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KTheGrey · 04/01/2025 16:38

Fishystripe · 04/01/2025 14:09

Might be fun and somehow empowering to compile a whole list of these that you could take turns in using. E.g.

Righto,
If you say so
Big thumbs up
Okey-dokey
Right you are

Yes!

There is no way to spin those answers. I also like

thumbs up emoji
ok
received
roger that
10-4

Would hundy p be going too far?

LondonLawyer · 04/01/2025 16:21

I think you need to disassociate. Don't answer the phone in the situations you mentioned, when he's struggling to pick the kids up. Don't engage with him - if he wants to go on about you being a bad mother, or whatever, don't reply to those messages, and if on the phone say, "this conversation isn't productive, goodbye" and hang up.

You need to stop giving him rent-free space in your head. He's able to control and manipulate you at the moment; you can't control his behaviour but you absolutely can disengage.

Baileysatchristmas · 04/01/2025 16:11

OP clearly you have big issues if your current husband also thinks you're angry and you have problems with him.

Could you be focusing on this as a bit of a distraction from the issues in your current marriage? (Whether a legal marriage or not)

MzHz · 04/01/2025 15:32

Baileysatchristmas · 04/01/2025 11:06

Grey rock. Stop talking to him on the phone. Just email or text only. Whatever nonsense he comes up with just reply with "grand". And ignore ignore. She won't believe you, and at the moment you're playing right into his hands anyway.

Honestly @Unknown1111 ^ this.

no phone ever. Text, email and grey rock him

send the kids as planned, let him deal with things as you do.

don’t let him get under your skin, don’t argue with him; don’t engage.

also. Give some thought about age-appropriate truth for your DC. You DONT want them growing up thinking the sun shines out of his backside

the truth will find the dc and you’ll look like a liar.

2catsandhappy · 04/01/2025 15:24

No need to talk on the phone at all. Text only about contact. Reply with two words maximum.
Will do
No thanks
Thank you
Maybe later etc etc
Stop giving him so much of your headspace time and attention.

ThatEllie · 04/01/2025 15:23

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And “he tells me im
abusive because im loud and i get angry and i shout.” So from that thread he feels abused and is clearly grey rocking her and refusing to feed the conflict/shouting.

OP, you said that your current marriage is religious only, not legal, and I see that you’ve commented elsewhere about Islamic marriage. You need to finish separating from your current husband and then work with a psychologist who is familiar with your culture. You’ve spoken about your parents and upbringing as well and it sounds like all of these issues are intertwined.

Pipconkermash · 04/01/2025 15:21

You have got to learn to grey rock him. When he starts, a serene ‘ok’ will piss him off more than anything.

A mad list will play right into his hands.

Ohnobackagain · 04/01/2025 15:11

@Unknown1111 I think it is fine to be honest with your kids, as long as you’re not snarky. And you could always say ‘Daddy realised it was his cold/bug they’d given you last time so it wasn’t a new bug you’d pass on and so collected you anyway’ but going forward you need to reduce contact you have with him somehow. As others have said, text rather than call?

SlashBeef · 04/01/2025 15:01

It sounds like you have a lot of work to do on yourself. You say your current husband is brilliant but that relationship is falling apart too?
It's been years since you divorced exh but you've carried this level of bitterness the whole time. You're wanting to so things to get a reaction rather than live peacefully.
Genuinely, I would look into some therapy to process all of this and find healthy coping mechanisms.

justasking111 · 04/01/2025 15:01

As the second wife hearing you on speaker phone I'd think you crazy.

As your second husband I'd be wondering.

Stop it now!!

email or text only. Move on for the sake of your mental health and your children.

My friend was like you. All four children ended up taking their father's side. Even though the adults knew he was a complete bastard.

Superscientist · 04/01/2025 14:49

Soon enough she'll figure it out. My sisters ex has had a few relationships since they split and sooner or later he behaves as he did with my sister. He's currently on his longest relationship and by all accounts he's not quite as abusive as he was with my sister but certainly controlling with a volatile temper and rules the house.

Arseholes can't hide their true colours for very long but otherwise they are often expert charmers otherwise they wouldn't get away with their other behaviours and whilst they are charming it's hard to get others to see them as anything other than that

Applepoop · 04/01/2025 14:46

He’s needling you and you are responding - don’t.

Don’t ever text something that isn’t straightforward and polite. Don’t argue over text. Don’t argue over small stuff.

essentially grey rock.

right now you’re playing right into his hands

Katbum · 04/01/2025 14:36

If my husband’s ex sent me the ins and outs of their breakup I’d think she was insane honestly and it wouldn’t do anything but sour my relationship with her, and potentially my stepchildren. I fully understand how galling it must be to see your ex swan about as if he has done no wrong, with a good woman who trusts him - but honestly OP the best thing you can do is get yourself into a place where he no longer bothers you. You have to try and ‘grey rock’ to the point it dissolves any interest or feelings you have for this man. You ended the marriage. It’s done. What you owe yourself and your children is your own peace and sanity, you don’t control him and the fact you are still in a place you want to ‘hurt’ him almost a decade on is worrying.

JollyZebra · 04/01/2025 14:33

Don't give him the ammo to show you up to his new wife. He will do that himself in time. Tell your daughter you can't afford the whole cost of the new jacket and to ask him again for his share when she visits with them. He won't like being shown up in front of his new wife, but there you are, he should have paid out as agreed. If he wants to continue to be darling daddy in your daughter's eyes, he'll pay up..

JustMyView13 · 04/01/2025 14:33

Fishystripe · 04/01/2025 14:09

Might be fun and somehow empowering to compile a whole list of these that you could take turns in using. E.g.

Righto,
If you say so
Big thumbs up
Okey-dokey
Right you are

😂😂
Random generator to pick which one

Yousay55 · 04/01/2025 14:33

I expect she knows what he’s like, or will do in the future. People don’t really change.
Perhaps write down what he has done wrong and keep hold of it. Having it written down may help and knowing it’s there and you coulD pass it on to his ex in the future if you still feel the same way:

LAMPS1 · 04/01/2025 14:33

No, don’t reveal stuff from the past. It will reflect badly on you.

But, as from today going forward, stop hiding stuff from the girls. Eg, sorry DD, it will take a bit longer for me to save the full amount for your new coat as dad suddenly can’t afford to pay half.
And, if they ask questions, answer truthfully but not vindictively where you can.

Finally, stop taking his calls. You are enabling him to trigger you. So put a stop to it for everybody’s sake.

EdithBond · 04/01/2025 14:33

@WilfredsPies that’s great advice which has worked for me. I’ve scrubbed the bathroom many a time haha!

YourHappyJadeEagle · 04/01/2025 14:32

Unknown1111 · Today 11:05
I know it would achieve NOTHING she is living a good life with him but I know it will annoy him.

What will annoy him more is treating him as if he doesn’t matter.
He calls— don’t answer.
He badmouths you —- you yawn, say same old same old. Hang up.
Use text or email only.
Don’t engage with him beyond absolute necessity.

Speaking to his current wife ( as I like to refer to my ex husband’s subsequent wives) will achieve nothing except making you look crazy.

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