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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

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Dagnabit · 05/01/2025 18:57

YANBU - I have a feeling that this will happen to me in a few years. I was brought up by my dad and step mom who have both now passed. I do have a relationship with my biological mom but it’s seeing her for an hour or so, every few weeks rather than a deep and meaningful relationship. She is married to a nice man and I do love her but I would resent being expected to look after her when elderly, seeing as she was happy to give me up when I was very young. I’m hoping she will sort out her care needs etc if it came to that. She has arranged her own funeral so is making an effort to not burden me which is good.

WearyAuldWumman · 05/01/2025 18:53

incognitomummy · 05/01/2025 18:48

OP didn't come back. Hope you are ok.

I can't say I blame her: there are some people on this thread who are making the mistake of expecting her to provide at least some care for the feckless father and his wife. I don't care if it's "only" one evening a week.

Not. Her. Problem.

I helped out a teeny bit with a great-uncle and great-aunt and cared for both my parents and my husband. I loved them, so I'm philosophical about the detrimental effect that it's had on my health and wellbeing.

There's a snowball's chance that I'd have cared for someone who had treated me with the contempt with which that couple treated the OP.

incognitomummy · 05/01/2025 18:48

OP didn't come back. Hope you are ok.

TheTavern · 05/01/2025 18:45

Just say
“Hi dad, really sorry about ‘Anne’s’ cancer diagnosis. It must be a difficult time for you both. On a practical front I can pop in on a Thursday between 4.30 and 7pm. Also please see list of services I have put together which I hope will be helpful. I can’t reply to your while Im working or travelling to and from work and I have to request days off 2 weeks in advance.
On a personal note I am a little taken aback that (a) you expect so much from me and (b) you don’t have others to call upon. When you left mum and me life was very difficult financially and emotionally but thanks to mum’s hard work and selflessness we got by. In her later years when she was in poor health I helped as much as possible despite her brave attempts to maintain her independence. My life is much busier now and I cannot respond/assist at the level you would like.
Kind regards Adrienne23”

BlueLimeRun · 05/01/2025 18:32

I think you need to be blunt, don’t give them a window.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 05/01/2025 18:26

Be very clear and explicit with them - I am concerned that, for understandable reasons, your need for support from me has increased massively and it is at a point which is not sustainable. I dont want us to get to a point where you are asking for help which I simply cannot give, so there needs to be a plan for other forms of support you can access. Happy to talk this through and explore this with you (if you are).

YMZ · 05/01/2025 18:01

I’m sorry for your struggle. It is completely unfair that dad wants support, but the wife!? In these described circumstances out of the question. Stand firm in your boundaries and state why if necessary.
my father, rest his soul, told me I was rude to his g’friend . I wasn’t but did see her as a gold digger.
I let him know my opinion and nothing was said again. Don’t let yourself become a doormat. Karma is a bitch as they say.

Mumof3confused · 05/01/2025 17:53

You don’t owe either of them a single thing.

TarotLady · 05/01/2025 17:52

I am estranged from my narcissistic Mother and have been for over a decade. Your post struck a chord with me. I am so sorry you are being taken advantage of like this. It's really difficult trying to be a decent person and having compassion for people who are elderly and ill. Trying to do the right thing whilst not being eroded mentally, physically and emotionally in the process.
However - if your Father and StepMother are still displaying the selfish sense of entitlement they have had since when you were young it's only going to get worse and more vampiric.
Get out now with your sanity and physical health intact. Put yourself first. Minimise your contact and be very boundaried as other posters have described so well.
You are not a bad person if you do this. It's called self care.

BlueFlowers5 · 05/01/2025 17:43

They can pay for help?

Tikityboo · 05/01/2025 15:23

Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

Have any of the suggestions on this thread resonated with you @Adrienne23 - do you feel able to put together a plan going forward of what boundaries would help you and what support if any you feel you need to implement and maintain going forward?

thepariscrimefiles · 05/01/2025 15:04

Mamasperspective · 04/01/2025 22:57

I would say something like, "Dad I love you and appreciate you are of ill health but it's unreasonable to expect that I can be a carer for you or your wife. I appreciate that I was a carer for my mother but, with all due respect, your wife is not my mother. I'm more than happy to spend some time helping you research resources and home support to help but the expectations that you and your wife have of me are far too high. I can't just visit at the drop of a hat, I can't just run around taking you to appointments and your constant expectations are affecting my job, my life and my mental health. We can sit down and look at options for transport for appointments and for support in the home but the current situation cannot continue"

That message would be appropriate if OP's dad had been even minimally caring and loving towards his daughter but he wasn't. The contact with OP that her dad has recently initiated is purely out of self-interest. He wants an unpaid carer for himself and his wife, having pretty much abandoned OP and her mum financially and emotionally when she was a child.

If she wants to send that sort of message, I would advise her to remove the 'Dad I love you' as that will open her up to even more manipulation from this awful couple.

WhereYouLeftIt · 05/01/2025 11:57

stitchy · 04/01/2025 00:43

I am fully on board with telling them to go swivel but get that you might need to convey your feelings a little less directly.

Be clear that you have enjoyed getting to know them over the last few years but as a result of his lack of involvement in your childhood your relationship simply does not have the roots and depth it would require for you to sacrifice parts of your life now to provide the care and support they need.

It is not your duty.

Beautifully put. "Your relationship simply does not have the roots and depth".

YouTellEmBigD · 05/01/2025 04:17

"You must be joking", or even "fuck off", or "what goes around comes around" or a good old "no" all work.
Just because he provided A Single Sperm however many years ago, doesn't make you indebted to him. People out themselves out, and help, and care, for their l loved ones, not people with a tenuous connection who added to their (and their mother's) burdens in life.

incognitomummy · 05/01/2025 03:45

Be unavailable
Stop answering their calls at inconvenient times. Or when you don't feel strong enough to say no, F off.

You could block them temporarily.

Get a therapist too - to help you say no

And, if necessary, go NC or even LC.

It's unfair and you don't owe either of them anything.

coldcallerbaiter · 04/01/2025 23:56

Only way I would do some limited duties would be if he passed some of your inheritance to you now or put the house in trust for you, or some other guaranteed method.

Does the wife have dc if her own?

Needanewname42 · 04/01/2025 23:47

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2025 23:31

Good for him. He’s an outlier.

I'd agree not many 90 yos could manage online shopping.

But if these two are struggling with shopping and cooking they might be better with a food service like Wiltshire foods which are designed for elderly people.

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 04/01/2025 23:40

5foot5 · 04/01/2025 00:37

"Sorry to hear about your current health problems. I will, of course, stay in touch and come to visit when I can.

"However, I think you should make other day-to-day care arrangements. You were both happy to leave Mum and I to manage with minimal financial or practical help from you when I was a child, so you and your wife cannot reasonably expect a great deal of support and care from me now."

I think this sums things up nicely OP. So, the next time they summons you, or ask for help, if you don't feel you can say the words and stick to them, just copy this onto a text, email or letter, and send it to them. They can't argue against the truth, and if they don't like it, tough, I don't imagine you liked being left to struggle in near poverty whilst growing up, but you had to get on with it, now it's their turn. Oh, and above all DON'T feel guilty!! They've brought it on themselves.

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2025 23:31

pikkumyy77 · 04/01/2025 23:25

My father is 92 and manages to call uber and fo quite a bit of online shopping.

Good for him. He’s an outlier.

pikkumyy77 · 04/01/2025 23:25

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2025 23:20

If he abandoned an eight year old 50 years ago, he’s at least 80 and probably hasn’t a clue about Uber or online shopping.

My father is 92 and manages to call uber and fo quite a bit of online shopping.

BIossomtoes · 04/01/2025 23:20

pikkumyy77 · 04/01/2025 00:32

He abandoned OP 50 years ago. Not in 1850. I presume he managed modern life just fine.

If he abandoned an eight year old 50 years ago, he’s at least 80 and probably hasn’t a clue about Uber or online shopping.

PaterPower · 04/01/2025 23:20

You just have to say “no, I’m not doing that” and mean it.

He’s a CF if he thinks he can rely on you now when he’s not been there for you through your childhood. His / their demands are only going to increase. Save yourself a lot of heartache by going LC or even NC.

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 04/01/2025 23:19

Tell them sorry but they will get the level of support they offered your mother, nothing financially and 4 visits a year when convenient for you. If they are lucky you may pick up the phone twice a month. Just say no.

BellissimoGecko · 04/01/2025 23:17

stitchy · 04/01/2025 00:43

I am fully on board with telling them to go swivel but get that you might need to convey your feelings a little less directly.

Be clear that you have enjoyed getting to know them over the last few years but as a result of his lack of involvement in your childhood your relationship simply does not have the roots and depth it would require for you to sacrifice parts of your life now to provide the care and support they need.

It is not your duty.

I like this option too.

BellissimoGecko · 04/01/2025 23:16

5foot5 · 04/01/2025 00:37

"Sorry to hear about your current health problems. I will, of course, stay in touch and come to visit when I can.

"However, I think you should make other day-to-day care arrangements. You were both happy to leave Mum and I to manage with minimal financial or practical help from you when I was a child, so you and your wife cannot reasonably expect a great deal of support and care from me now."

This.

Good luck, op. I feel for you. You deserved a much better dad.

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