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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

OP posts:
Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 04/01/2025 08:02

They can expect all they like. You can say no.

Flatandhappy · 04/01/2025 08:01

You need to learn how to say no and stick to it. Work out what, if anything you are willing to do (although tbh it’s probably easier to just do a hard no as it is more difficult to maintain boundaries if you are willing to do some things) and communicate this to your father. You are being used, you have done what you needed/wanted to for the parent who cared for you, you have no obligation here.

isthesolution · 04/01/2025 08:01

I'd visit once a week for a set time (maybe an hour) and probably phone/answer the phone once a week too. I'd have something organised afterwards.

I'd stick to - I'll be over on (usual day) and can try to help with that then if you want.

If you are guilted I'd just say that your life is very busy and you are currently in a position to do any more than you are doing.

My own father v much abandoned my family for a new one. He's now mid 70s and I'm preparing myself for him suddenly wanting/needing regular contact/help. He wasn't ever there for me from being 8; he'd take me out once a week if it fit in with his plans and I'm therefore willing to do the same in return.

MyDeftDuck · 04/01/2025 07:59

Volumedelachanel · 04/01/2025 00:42

Agree with sending this message. please do not be guilted into looking after these selfish people. They are treating you like their own personal lackey and it will only get worse. You've been caring for your mum, and now it's YOUR time. I would keep saying, 'sorry I'm not available to do xyz' to every request and pull back completely. They've probably got enough to pay for care, and even if they don't, it's not your problem.

This.

CowTown · 04/01/2025 07:52

My mum recently tried this with my sister, who lives locally (I live on the other side of the country). Backstory: DM had an affair with DSD, which is what broke two families apart. When asked, my sis told DM that she made her decision when she left the family, she has her new family now, and one of her new DCs can do her caring duties.

Bagwyllydiart · 04/01/2025 07:51

Just say you are happy to help, every February 29th.

Totaleclipseofthemind · 04/01/2025 07:45

Only reply to messages when you want to.

Tell them you have hurt your foot and cannot drive.

Be as deceitful to them as they were with you over their finances and lack of support growing up.

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 04/01/2025 07:40

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 04/01/2025 00:26

Tell them to swivel.

😆I love this term and use it far more than I should.

DungareesAndTrombones · 04/01/2025 07:40

OP I feel fuming for you and to use a MN phrase I would tell them both to fuck off to the far side of fuck and then fuck off some more.

Take care of yourself even if that means blocking the pair of them. They've behaved despicably towards you and don't deserve a second of your time.

RunningJo · 04/01/2025 07:39

You do whatever you feel comfortable doing.
I wouldn’t be answering all of the calls, I’d text back and say sorry, can’t talk now, catch up later.
If they ask for specific help then reply to say, sorry I can’t do that,
you don’t need to explain why, but if they try to guilt you then offer helpful advice as to who could help them. There is plenty of help out there for them. You don’t need to be their first port of call. Do whatever you want to do, and nothing more.

Don’t be guilted into becoming the carer for people who have had limited contact with you for many years.

Tubetrain · 04/01/2025 07:34

Just say no. End of.

Winterskyfall · 04/01/2025 07:33

He largely abandoned you when you were 8. I would pull back significantly now because this is only going to get worse. He wasn't there for you, you don't need to be there for them. Just let him know that. He is a selfish user who will keep taking until you have nothing left to give.

hattie43 · 04/01/2025 07:26

My neglectful mother is trying this too OP but she has no concept that I have no intention of being her carer . She was never around for me as a child having buggered off with a series of different men and so now I'm going to return the favour . Set boundaries for the sake of your wellbeing . Mine will get a weekly trip to the shops so I know she doesn't starve and that's it .

ruffler45 · 04/01/2025 07:13

Fraaances · 04/01/2025 01:19

They can get nurses in. Explain to your Dad that he didn’t look after you at all. You can’t and won’t.

This .....and then block

Wtafdidido · 04/01/2025 07:12

Request a social worker for them via their go and ask for a care needs assessment and care will be provided or ask for Direct Payment and employ carers for them. You do not have to care for them. You owe them nothing and there are other sources of care. Set the boundaries now

endsnewyearsday · 04/01/2025 07:11

5foot5 · 04/01/2025 00:37

"Sorry to hear about your current health problems. I will, of course, stay in touch and come to visit when I can.

"However, I think you should make other day-to-day care arrangements. You were both happy to leave Mum and I to manage with minimal financial or practical help from you when I was a child, so you and your wife cannot reasonably expect a great deal of support and care from me now."

Nailed it.

ruffler45 · 04/01/2025 07:09

And I bet you are not mention in any wills either..not that should influence your decisison to keep a huge distance from them...

Pat888 · 04/01/2025 07:03

Do you have a job? Obviously you can't take calls while at work, you often work late into the evening and have this and this on at the weekend so they'll have to find some other support.
If you don't work tell him he gave you no support growing up so can't expect you to provide it now.
Be firm don't say things like 'i'll pop round when I can' either say once a week or whatever (or not at all) - don't leave it vague.

Lostinmusic22 · 04/01/2025 06:51

Give them both the number for a local care agency and tell them you will not be taking on any kind of caring role. Suggest they move to assisted living or residential care if they need more support.

Put your phone on silent and don’t answer. Reply to texts every 2/4 days. Stop giving them access. Unplug your home phone - you don’t need it. You don’t need to be available all of the time to anyone op, especially not someone that abandoned you..

Berga · 04/01/2025 06:35

Ok I'll be angry for you OP.

How fucking dare this man get a whiff of his own and his cheeky fucker wife's mortality during lockdown and suddenly decide it's time to build a relationship with the daughter he abandoned and failed to protect and provide for when she was a small child, because fuck, he'll need someone to run around after them now they are old. He knows he is playing on that child part of you that just wanted a Dad who was around and loved her. They can both fuck off and be left to the fate that they chose as grown adults. Absolutely conniving wankers.

As for those posters saying do it for the money, they didn't want to give OP money when she was 8. A child. She could do all this, under duress, and find they left it to the local cats home. They can use their money to buy their care, seeing as money is so important to them.

And for those arguing about whether OP's Dad can order an Uber or a fucking Tesco shop, who cares if he can or not? It's not the OP's problem, he is reaping what he has sown, so he will have to work it out.

As a wonderful wise PP said, an asshole with cancer is still an asshole. No one should be under the illusion that everyone turns into a nice old person like it's some kind of elderly magic wand.

RedHelenB · 04/01/2025 06:25

BMW6 · 04/01/2025 00:22

Tell them exactly what you've said here - he abandoned you and your Mum, he made his choice so of course you won't be playing the part of a dutiful and caring daughter!

Go NC if needs be. He's a selfish git still.

This.live your own life, he's lived his without any care for you.

commonsense61 · 04/01/2025 06:16

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MeTooOverHere · 04/01/2025 05:58

WhereYouLeftIt · 04/01/2025 01:26

"How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?"
You draw them very bluntly and very decisively and you take no prisoners.

Consider texting along these lines:
'Dad, your behaviour of late suggests you think I should be running around after you and your wife. Let us both be clear on this - I will provide exactly the level of support that I experienced from you from the age of 8 onwards. You reap what you sow, and you sowed very, very little.'

Yes, it's brutal. But I think you need to be with these people. They fucked you over in your childhood, teens, adulthood, and they will do it all over again if you don't stop them.

"I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful."
And you are right to feel this way. Do not suppress these feelings, they are your protection from being exploited by a very selfish man and his wife.

THIS ^

NC10125 · 04/01/2025 05:57

If you want to stay in touch with them I like pp idea of a regular phone call which everyone knows when its happening so that you can then ignore other messages. And I like the idea of making sure they know how to access other help - perhaps a list of useful phone numbers for things like doctors, social services, cleaners, taxis etc stuck on their fridge.

I suspect that he has just assumed that you will care for them because you did so for your mum, he wouldn't probably know enough about her care to compare his requests with hers.

If you value the relationship then I think that you need to bring it up as a conversation with them rather than a text/message. I'd ask questions about what they've planned for their care, whether they've been offered support, what they've put in place. I'd also say something like "I don't want to upset you by always saying "no" so I feel like I need to be clear that I'm not able to help here. I really value our relationship but the reason I took care of mum as she aged was because she had taken care of me as a child. Its a huge huge amount of work and whilst I love and care for you we don't have that sort of relationship."

JustMyView13 · 04/01/2025 05:55

I would explain to him that you are not able to provide him any support beyond what he provided to you as a child growing up. You understand he had his reasons at the time, albeit never shared. And likewise you have your reasons now. You appreciate the bond you’ve formed with him in recent times, but he wasn’t a father to you when you needed one, and you don't intend on upending the life you’ve built to provide an unequal level of support now he’s reached old age. What you are prepared to do is contact social services and make sure he’s got access to the right support from LA, or access to paid (by him) service providers to help him maintain his independence which he clearly values greatly.