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Elderly dad and wife expect me to care for her

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Adrienne23 · 04/01/2025 00:10

My dad left home for his now wife of 50 years when I was 8 years old and they by and large lived their own very comfortable lives together, seeing me around 4 times a year until my teens, then we saw very little of one and other aside from speak on the phone twice a month or so. My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were. My mother passed away nearly 10 years ago from a long illness and I was her main support, although she tried very hard to maintain her independence and not lean on me unless absolutely necessary mainly in order to protect my emotional and physical well being.
I started to see more of my dad since my mothers death and increased communication considerably during lockdown. In the past few months his wife has been diagnosed with cancer and they now both absolutely expect me to provide all sorts of support and care for them both as my dad’s health is also poor. I am starting to feeling incredibly resentful. I worked hard on myself following my mother’s death, getting a new job, social life, etc, but I am still deeply affected by the loss. The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on. How can I draw boundaries now before I am completely consumed by them and their needs to the detriment of my own?

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DenimPlayer · 14/01/2025 19:29

Iam going through a simular to you with my father. He can be very selfish but i would try and help them get help either with care or just living. We have one day a week we go and help with washing and will take him to appointments if we can but he will tell us about his journey if he has to go on his own My husband is recovering from cancer and he has had to be told alot of times he is not my priority good luck and stay strong

CRCGran · 13/01/2025 10:30

Also OP, do you have an update for us? Are you trying any of these suggestions?

CRCGran · 13/01/2025 10:29

OP.... you really must insist that her own children step up and help. She's not your responsibility at all. I notice you said you got more of a relationship with your father after your mother died but you don't mention getting any closer to the wife. How was she towards you? Did your father ever apologise for his actions? But regardless, they are using you. Plain and simple. They know you looked after your mother so well and are now seeing a carer for themselves. Please don't allow it to happen. I know it's hard but you have to get used to simply saying No !! No I can't come over. No I can't take you/her to appointment. No explanation, just no !!! You don't ever have to explain to anyone. Don't answer calls or texts right away. Put out the message that you're not readily available. And remind them that she has family of her own and suggest she contacts them. Please don't feel guilty. If your father genuinely wanted a relationship with you and not just a carer he would accept your boundaries and never try to guilt you.

IsawwhatIsaw · 12/01/2025 19:29

Op has only posted once , that was a week ago…

FartyPants9 · 12/01/2025 19:07

FractalBob · 12/01/2025 07:32

Relationships here in France (I'm an expat American living in France almost 6 years now) between children and their parents are a whole lot different than in the States. In the US, kids often leave home at 18, for college, jobs or the military, and often have little to do with their parents except on holidays, whereas the French, at least from what I've observed, take the approach that Mom and Dad took care of me when I was little so it's my turn now to give back. I see lots of old people accompanying really old people on weekend outings. My French girlfriend calls her mother every day and brings her over for holidays and birthdays. Mom lives about two and a half hours away from the rest of the family, so when she comes over, she usually stays for a few days. Mom is a vigorous and healthy 92 years old.

Your situation seems a lot different, both by your parents' behavior as well as yours. Did you try to keep in touch with them after you grew up, spend time with them on weekends, help with shopping or little tasks around the house? Or did they prefer to be left alone to do their thing and now want help from you? I'm trying to understand the family dynamic before your stepmom came into the picture and suggest you reflect on that. Maybe it's possible that they got signals from you that you just wanted to do your thing and be left alone.

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Why should OP keep in contact with the father who abandoned her and his mistress?

borrowingtime · 12/01/2025 15:29

@thepariscrimefiles thanks. There was no need to resort to rudeness at all was there!

LaurieFairyCake · 12/01/2025 15:16

Do they not have other children? Is it just you?

Pupinskipops · 12/01/2025 15:01

thepariscrimefiles · 12/01/2025 13:56

You are defending the indefensible (OP's dad's and step mum's behaviour) and being really rude to @borrowingtime

In your opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️. I find your position indefensible and your comment irrelevant (which is why I didn't bother responding to your previous comments), but hey - don't let me stop you being very, very certain that there is no possible point of view except your own.

Neveragain8102 · 12/01/2025 14:51

Ops father and wife weren't particularly human leaving a child in poverty whilst they hid their income as an excuse to not financially support her.

lightsandtunnels · 12/01/2025 14:46

You should decide what you are prepared to do for them, or what you are able to do, and tell them.
A once a week visit perhaps and take some shopping maybe. Perhaps a sit down with them to organise the admin of sorting out home care for them.
You owe him nothing OP. Don't let them bully you.

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 14:42

WearyAuldWumman · 12/01/2025 13:35

There's a big difference between that and taking on all the care needs for a couple.

I agree. If you read my post I said a lift to hospital and being supportive when receiving difficult news is a humane thing to do. I'm not suggesting she provides full time care

Neveragain8102 · 12/01/2025 14:26

I have we to say I am truly flabbergasted at the posters who cannot see that this man (and his delightful enabling wife who benefitted greatly from his actions) abandoned the OP in every way possible: financially, physically, emotionally.

There is nothing decent about these two people - selfish, self-serving, greedy, and frankly monstrous..

SameAsItEverWas24 · 12/01/2025 14:19

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 12:19

I am In The middle of cancer treatment. The offer to take to appointments was very helpful but otherwise I need no extra support

You're feeling resentment because of his abandonment of your mum. That really is daft. It was 50 years ago. Relationships break down you miss your mum and that's why you're feeling this way. understandable.

Do what you can , that's the right thing to do but be aware that if they can't drive to appointments there is usually a pick up service provided by the hospital (although if I'm honest the fact my children drive me really made my treatment far less traumatic) it's a scary time

Resentment is due to abandonment of HER the OP too. It's not daft. That was her own father screwing up her childhood. The length of time is irrelevant. Doesn't sound like Dear Dad did much to make up for it in the intervening years. Relationships do break down but no excuse for abandoning your daughter

thepariscrimefiles · 12/01/2025 13:56

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You are defending the indefensible (OP's dad's and step mum's behaviour) and being really rude to @borrowingtime

borrowingtime · 12/01/2025 13:48

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Thanks for proving my point yet again.

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WearyAuldWumman · 12/01/2025 13:45

WearyAuldWumman · 12/01/2025 13:35

There's a big difference between that and taking on all the care needs for a couple.

I'll add that he only saw her 4 times a year and pretended to have a lack of money in order to avoid paying proper maintenance: "My mother raised me in relative poverty with not much financial support from my dad at the time he used to claim he didn’t have the means and we only discovered in recent years that he and his wife were far better off than they said they were."

I've been a carer. It's bloody hard work on top of working full time and has a detrimental effect on your own health.

I've said previously that at one point, I was working full-time plus caring for both my parents and then my husband as well. I have longlasting health issues as a result.

In addition, I took my husband's ex to and from hospital for a procedure and I've taken elderly neighbours to hospital. I absolutely would not step up to be the sole carer for any of them. In particular, I told my late husband that I wouldn't be the carer for his ex who - quite frankly - had treated the pair of us in an atrocious manner. No, I wasn't the OW - she had acquired another man and is currently with her 4th partner. As is the case with the OP's stepmother, the ex has two adult children who have no interest of stepping up, but were very happy for me to do all the caring for their father - I have no problem with that - but were obviously hopeful that I'd do the same for their mother.

Bluntly, the stepmother is not the OP's problem. Given her father's lack of support of her, I don't blame her for keeping her distance. She's already acted as carer for her beloved mother and will be suffering from grief and exhaustion.

It's unreasonable to expect her to step up for two people who showed no care for her.

borrowingtime · 12/01/2025 13:45

Pupinskipops · 12/01/2025 13:33

Oh my God 🤦‍♀️ There. Is. No. Definitive. Answer. To. This. Situation, no matter how desperately you want to be right, and no matter how many points you score because you've counted how many other people share your view.

You are not right; I am not right. You are not privy to all considerations relating to the OP's situation (or mine); I am not privy to all considerations relating to the OP's situation. Your opinion doesn't matter; my opinion doesn't matter. It's for the OP to decide what is or isn't appropriate and what she ultimately chooses to do.

You've decided I'm projecting. I've decided that your insistence that you are right about someone else's situation and what they must do about it and that people who disagree with you are wrong is not normal, and I suggest you might benefit from help with that.

Relax @Pupinskipops. Stop trying to twist the situation and pretending that I am insisting on anything at all. I can see that you find disagreement a real struggle, hence writing in such a foolish, patronising way 'Oh my God 🤦‍♀️ There. Is. No. Definitive. Answer. To. This. Situation' and making gaslighting remarks 'I suggest you might benefit from help with that'.

Obviously, it's up to the OP what she does or does not do and obviously real life has nuances (I already gave the example of my friend). But this is AIBU. People ask for opinions and people discuss and disagree on here. That is the purpose of this board. If you can't handle disagreement, stick to different areas on MN instead of trying to twist what has been written and making unfounded accusations.

WearyAuldWumman · 12/01/2025 13:35

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 13:31

Well actually I gave a similar story to the op. He didn't abandon her. He left her mum, he still continued to see her.
My dad didn't see me for a decade. I still took him to his bloody chemo. I would do that for a stranger!

There's a big difference between that and taking on all the care needs for a couple.

Pupinskipops · 12/01/2025 13:33

borrowingtime · 12/01/2025 13:17

I think you are projecting because of your own specific experience.
Nearly everyone else on this thread has also gone 'nuclear' according to you, having read the same version of events.
If a parent does as the OP's father or your father did and then spends time and makes the effort to make up for their behaviour, takes responsibility and apologies in a heartfelt way, that is one thing. I have a close friend, for example, whose father was physically, emotionally and financially abusive to her mother, resulting in the marriage failing and the mother having to provide for her children. Fortunately, this father took the time and effort to repair the relationship, apologised many times and has been a much better grandfather than he was father. She now supports him in his old age. This is not that type of situation. They are simply taking advantage of the OP's good nature. There is nothing to suggest that they have changed at all and are still entirely selfish.

Oh my God 🤦‍♀️ There. Is. No. Definitive. Answer. To. This. Situation, no matter how desperately you want to be right, and no matter how many points you score because you've counted how many other people share your view.

You are not right; I am not right. You are not privy to all considerations relating to the OP's situation (or mine); I am not privy to all considerations relating to the OP's situation. Your opinion doesn't matter; my opinion doesn't matter. It's for the OP to decide what is or isn't appropriate and what she ultimately chooses to do.

You've decided I'm projecting. I've decided that your insistence that you are right about someone else's situation and what they must do about it and that people who disagree with you are wrong is not normal, and I suggest you might benefit from help with that.

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 13:31

thepariscrimefiles · 12/01/2025 13:25

He abandoned OP as well as her mum and left them both in poverty by lying about his wealth to justify his meagre financial support. He saw OP 4 times a year as a child and stopped seeing her at all once she reached her teens.

I'm assuming that you were a good mum to your children and so they are happy to help you. OP is obviously conflicted but most posters agree that she doesn't owe them anything and that they are cheeky and entitled to expect her to provide care.

Well actually I gave a similar story to the op. He didn't abandon her. He left her mum, he still continued to see her.
My dad didn't see me for a decade. I still took him to his bloody chemo. I would do that for a stranger!

thepariscrimefiles · 12/01/2025 13:25

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 12:19

I am In The middle of cancer treatment. The offer to take to appointments was very helpful but otherwise I need no extra support

You're feeling resentment because of his abandonment of your mum. That really is daft. It was 50 years ago. Relationships break down you miss your mum and that's why you're feeling this way. understandable.

Do what you can , that's the right thing to do but be aware that if they can't drive to appointments there is usually a pick up service provided by the hospital (although if I'm honest the fact my children drive me really made my treatment far less traumatic) it's a scary time

He abandoned OP as well as her mum and left them both in poverty by lying about his wealth to justify his meagre financial support. He saw OP 4 times a year as a child and stopped seeing her at all once she reached her teens.

I'm assuming that you were a good mum to your children and so they are happy to help you. OP is obviously conflicted but most posters agree that she doesn't owe them anything and that they are cheeky and entitled to expect her to provide care.

borrowingtime · 12/01/2025 13:17

Pupinskipops · 12/01/2025 12:49

Yes, of course I read it - how odd that you think if anyone has a different viewpoint to yours it can only be because they are misinformed!

We both created different possible (because neither of us knows the entire picture for sure) scenarios in our heads. You've gone for the nuclear option based on limited info, my suggestion, based on the same limited info, allows for the opportunity of leaving the door open whilst taking the pressure off the OP.

I'm happy with my point of view, but thank you. At the end of the day neither of our viewpoints matter unless the OP chooses to take either suggestion on board. After all, this isn't a win or lose game show.

Incidentally, my father did much the same thing as I was growing up. I was with him when he died 5 years ago and we parted on good terms. It happens.

I think you are projecting because of your own specific experience.
Nearly everyone else on this thread has also gone 'nuclear' according to you, having read the same version of events.
If a parent does as the OP's father or your father did and then spends time and makes the effort to make up for their behaviour, takes responsibility and apologies in a heartfelt way, that is one thing. I have a close friend, for example, whose father was physically, emotionally and financially abusive to her mother, resulting in the marriage failing and the mother having to provide for her children. Fortunately, this father took the time and effort to repair the relationship, apologised many times and has been a much better grandfather than he was father. She now supports him in his old age. This is not that type of situation. They are simply taking advantage of the OP's good nature. There is nothing to suggest that they have changed at all and are still entirely selfish.

Pupinskipops · 12/01/2025 12:49

borrowingtime · 12/01/2025 08:54

I don't see any evidence that the father has changed now that he faces the end of his life. All I see is a thoroughly selfish man who abandoned his young daughter and wife and left them in poverty, barely saw the daughter for many decades and is now making constant demands. Did you actually read what @Adrienne23 wrote? This is a list of utterly selfish demands. They are not and have never been interested in her, they just want her to run around after them now that are frail and listen to their monologues.

'The level of support my dad and his wife expect from me far exceeds the support my mum expected (or received) from me, I get calls and messages about the health condition of both, several times a day irrespective of what I am doing, demands to drive to and from appointments, visit the house, messages that seem urgent and can’t wait only to just want to chat about themselves, and so on.'

The OP lovingly cared for her very loving and unselfish mother but has not had a relationship with her father, through his choice, for decades. She has no reason to suddenly start now that he has decided that he wants to use her as his skivvy.

Yes, of course I read it - how odd that you think if anyone has a different viewpoint to yours it can only be because they are misinformed!

We both created different possible (because neither of us knows the entire picture for sure) scenarios in our heads. You've gone for the nuclear option based on limited info, my suggestion, based on the same limited info, allows for the opportunity of leaving the door open whilst taking the pressure off the OP.

I'm happy with my point of view, but thank you. At the end of the day neither of our viewpoints matter unless the OP chooses to take either suggestion on board. After all, this isn't a win or lose game show.

Incidentally, my father did much the same thing as I was growing up. I was with him when he died 5 years ago and we parted on good terms. It happens.

Maddy70 · 12/01/2025 12:19

I am In The middle of cancer treatment. The offer to take to appointments was very helpful but otherwise I need no extra support

You're feeling resentment because of his abandonment of your mum. That really is daft. It was 50 years ago. Relationships break down you miss your mum and that's why you're feeling this way. understandable.

Do what you can , that's the right thing to do but be aware that if they can't drive to appointments there is usually a pick up service provided by the hospital (although if I'm honest the fact my children drive me really made my treatment far less traumatic) it's a scary time

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