What are people doing to their faces?!

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It is sad and driven by insecurity. Also the treatments need to be kept up so it never ends well.

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The argument that doing this is free choice doesn’t stack up. ‘Choices aren’t made in a vacuum’.

They weren’t ’plastic’ looking back then though, because today’s options weren’t available. It was all about wanting to be ‘prettier’ like the celebs but having no way of achieving that. Nowadays there are options which go some way to people achieving what they want, but with no real regulation or proper advice. It’s all about the money. You only have to look at how MJ transformed himself from good looking to something akin to the elephant man to see what can happen.

I feel sorry for girls/young women who appear to want to create a parody of themselves.
They must be deeply unhappy to see what is staring back at them in the mirror to have crap injected to them.

It is an awful look, the shelf lip, the tight glossy immovable forehead.
How anyone can think they look better with those features is beyond me.

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That’s an insult to gibbons! They are actually quite bright!

I though Botox prevented you getting wrinkles, as your skin doesn’t move as much even when you stop you’ll have decreased the aging processes

I believe there are some posters who are coming at it from this angle, yes. And that there is a worthwhile discussion to be had about these issues. Unfortunately the people who want a respectful discussion about the health and societal issues tend to get lost amongst the baying mob, here for the rare opportunity on MN to insult young women with the most offensive cliches they can recall. If they were to insult women for other reasons, their weight for example, they know they'd be called out pretty quick, but procedure threads give open season for the nasty internalised misogyny to spew forth unchecked. They can piggy back on to the 'worried' and 'upset' and be as hyperbolic and spiteful as they desire, hiding behind 'concern' and feminist principles.

It's never 'needed'. It's not a necessity.

Debbie Harry has had quite a bit of plasric surgery.

Suggest you go and think about those more important things then?

But it’s not this, is it? It’s a opinion and discussion on how a particular age group who are basically in their prime, suddenly think they need to be cosmetically altering themselves. This wasn’t the case 10 years ago etc. Not only does it look awful (and that is just my opinion and no one has to take it), but it’s an objective conversation as raised by OP as to why this is suddenly such a trend.

I agree op. It's one thing older women doing it (although it isn't for me at all, I am not afraid to age).

But it is heartbreaking young women doing it.

Each to their own but I feel fillers and Botox is not something that's really needed until you're into your forties. A time when you're more confident in yourself and likely to make the decision to have Botox cause you want to rather than to please someone else. I really don't see why anyone has it before 35 +(unless for non lines) as that's like feeding your face a hamburger when it's naturally made of steak.

I know a lot of women who have Botox to "freshen" up, it's discreet and you wouldn't really notice it. But there's a trend now to get obvious injections such as fillers. Plump lips, a face that doesn't move. Sometimes I may see someone and something isn't quite right, normally there's a lack of facial movement and I will put that down to Botox and fillers
In many respects there's always been trends - permed hair, hair colours etc.
But many women don't realise that some of these products, fillers in particular stay in you and need removal at some point. There's also a cost element, yes some people can afford the look and it's up to people how to spend their money, but honestly I suspect a lot are building up debt and not saving all. I work in a profession that's relatively high earning, a few colleagues get a bit of Botox. But it's the junior level in early 30s who are earning less than the national average wage who are getting botox, fillers, extensions , nails, boob jobs but at the same time they aren't able to save at all.

The difference is that most other trends are reversible. Even the women who plucked their eyebrows into oblivion in the early 2000s can get microblading.

If it's not the wrinkles that age us, then what is it?

The entire aging process. It’s not just wrinkles, it’s the entire body changing with time - wrinkles are just one element. If you go through a series of photos of the same person from when they were young to say middle age, you’ll see all sorts of changes that are inevitable as the body ages. The trouble with things like Botox is that some see it as an alternative to actually looking after themselves, and as with many other things, the long term effects of regular Botox use aren’t known.

You can always have a small amount injected. I have been three times for my jowls and last time it was just 1ml dermal filler. Looked very natural.

Oh! yes, how depressing. I also think the eyes look duller and that youthful glow can never be recaptured.

This isn't just about judging people who make different choices from us, though, is it? These procedures are potentially dangerous and for all we know may cause long-term health problems. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to be concerned about young impressionable women having all sorts of substances injected into their bodies, especially their faces, in pursuit of a particular look, especially as the people doing the injecting are not medically trained so don't really know what they're doing. As so often with cosmetic procedures, it's affecting women far more than men too. That's before we even start on how expensive it all is.

There is a British female police officer/psychologist who pops up those crime documentaries.
She is attractive and seemingly excellent at her job, so a good choice by Channel 5 (I think)
However, she has her lips pumped up so large (they get larger by the series') I am completely distracted and can't think of anything else.

Also, from a feminist point of view, yet another female tax?
Use up as much of their disposable income as possible while blokes in the main wash and are good to go 🤨

Honestly it’s not much different to every other trend that goes round. There’s more known health risks with hair dye at this stage yet a large chunk of the population do it.

Im not sure you can judge women for wanting to do all these things and still be spending money on your appearance. It’s just a different decade and a different trend, one you may not be on board with sure, but still just another trend.

Loving the honesty