Page 5 | To think "The Traitors" is the biggest load of guff on TV?

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MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:50

Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:48

Because the traitor has to end up throwing the other traitors under the bus if they want the cash for themselves. And it’s a balance as to who plays their card first.

Faithfuls also stop knowing who to trust eventually. But they need to form alliances.

Also as a PP has said, the challenges force the traitors to make some questionable decisions in order to avoid detection.

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The faithfuls never know who to trust. You can't trust anyone. They're all playing a game.

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Confusedandhormonal · 02/01/2025 22:50

Fringes! Scenery!.Gameplay! Lies vs truth! Exposure of people's prejudice! James. Gamble on uncloaked!

Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:48

MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:38

How does it become strategic? The only strategy is "don't behave like how you think a a traitor might behave which, if you are sensible, if how you would behave anyway."

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Because the traitor has to end up throwing the other traitors under the bus if they want the cash for themselves. And it’s a balance as to who plays their card first.

Faithfuls also stop knowing who to trust eventually. But they need to form alliances.

Also as a PP has said, the challenges force the traitors to make some questionable decisions in order to avoid detection.

vitahelp · 02/01/2025 22:48

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 02/01/2025 22:29

Why does anyone watch anything? Personally I watch it because I enjoy it

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But OP must know ‘why’ you enjoy it. In detail.

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MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:48

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 02/01/2025 22:41

One example is when the Traitors have to choose a few people for a specific thing (e.g. last season choosing people to go in the dungeon). Then there is some strategy around e.g. should we put a Traitor in, if we do who / how many etc. Also there is generally some attempt at strategy with the murders (maybe less so at the start), trying to think about if we kill X it throws suspicion on Y kind of thing.

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Yes, but it's bullshit. They pretend like it's strategic but it's random. "Should we put a traitor in?" There is no reasonable answer to that that isn't just post-rationalised (and made to seem "inevitable" in the edit.)

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Sasskitty · 02/01/2025 22:46

And her mum, who she looks like funnily enough. I love her look and cloths on the show.

To think "The Traitors" is the biggest load of guff on TV?

LuluBlakey1 · 02/01/2025 22:45

MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 21:11

It's stupid. There's no game at the heart of it. It's like Deal Or No Deal for prime time.

TV shows that are utter shite:
I'm A Celebrity GMOOH
Loose Women
Mrs Brown's Boys
Married at First Sight
Real Housewives of......anywhere
Coronation St
Emmerdale
Any sports programme
Anything with Vernon Kay or Tess Daley in it
Anything with Greg Davies, Rosie Jones, Noel Fielding, Jenny Eclair, Jimmy Carr, Lee Hurst, David Walliams in it
Anything with talentless, past-it celebs or people who are only Z list celebs because they appear in 'celeb type' shows'
Anything with Katie Price, Kerry Katona or a footballer's wife/girlfriend in it.

Sasskitty · 02/01/2025 22:43

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 02/01/2025 22:40

I bet she can easily pin the fringe back and wash the eyeliner off and go about her normal life as well.

I think this is it. She's probably barely recognisable when she isn't in character.

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Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:43

MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:36

But you're not "whittling them down". There are three of them. There will still be three of them if you find one because they'll recruit another one

It's only at the very final stage when you are legitimately losing traitors

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Agreed. And you need to try and stay alive until the odds are more in your favour.

I find the strategies of the traitors the best bit, not the faithfuls. The guy last year had a shaky start and I thought he was stupid at first but he played it so well.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 02/01/2025 22:42

WingingItSince1973 · 02/01/2025 22:40

I love it. Mainly because people fascinate me and I love watching all the different personalities working each other out. It's a social experiment in a way of how people react in situations. Selfish or team player. Things like that

Not really, because you can just fake that behaviour.

WingingItSince1973 · 02/01/2025 22:41

FiatMultiplaWhopper · 02/01/2025 21:24

I love it, the last series was incredible.

however I am noticing more of the contestants are ‘love island’ style than before and that’s not as good

Ah yes I agree I said to my husband that it's a bit more on the young side with a few oldies thrown in. I hope it doesn't go that way. Not many 30-50 year olds this time.

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 02/01/2025 22:41

MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:38

How does it become strategic? The only strategy is "don't behave like how you think a a traitor might behave which, if you are sensible, if how you would behave anyway."

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One example is when the Traitors have to choose a few people for a specific thing (e.g. last season choosing people to go in the dungeon). Then there is some strategy around e.g. should we put a Traitor in, if we do who / how many etc. Also there is generally some attempt at strategy with the murders (maybe less so at the start), trying to think about if we kill X it throws suspicion on Y kind of thing.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 02/01/2025 22:41

Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:33

There is no way to identify a traitor. It's just a guess. So accusing someone of being a traitor is unproblematic. It's not an insult or a slur. It's random.

It’s not meant to be an insult or a slur. Incorrectly accusing someone of being a traitor is problematic as you haven’t eliminated one. They are still at large and you need to whittle them down. The traitors can recruit a new one but as the game progresses they are less likely to as they won’t want to share the prize. Also, guessing a newly recruited traitor becomes easier as their behaviour changes.

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It's quite boring, though, that, isn't it really? It's not much different to Murder In the Dark which everyone played as kids and found really dramatic at the time. But you grow out of it.

I love people, I find people fascinating, knowing how varied they are in their tastes, which is why this thread is interesting to me. But I find that programme, and most of their ilk, deathly boring. I remember watching the first few series of Big Brother all those years ago thinking "wow, this is so different!" But having watched so many years of similar telly, it eventually becomes just the same old shit. Same old attention seekers and fake drama.

I think for me, the next wow moment's going to have to involve smellyvision or holograms or something. 😆

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MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:41

lolly792 · 02/01/2025 22:39

@MasterBeth why do your family watch it?

Fuck knows.

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AnnaKing81 · 02/01/2025 22:41

Utterly agree.

Shite!

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 02/01/2025 22:40

I bet she can easily pin the fringe back and wash the eyeliner off and go about her normal life as well.

I think this is it. She's probably barely recognisable when she isn't in character.

WingingItSince1973 · 02/01/2025 22:40

I love it. Mainly because people fascinate me and I love watching all the different personalities working each other out. It's a social experiment in a way of how people react in situations. Selfish or team player. Things like that

lolly792 · 02/01/2025 22:39

@MasterBeth why do your family watch it?

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 02/01/2025 22:38

I really enjoy it, it's the only reality TV I've watched since the earlier series of Big Brother.

I'd be a terrible contestant - I'd try my best to turn everyone against the cryers, screamers and huggers and I'd be very unexcitable.

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MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:38

Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:35

Yes, at this stage there is no skill, that was my point. It’s as the game progresses that it becomes strategic.

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How does it become strategic? The only strategy is "don't behave like how you think a a traitor might behave which, if you are sensible, if how you would behave anyway."

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Samandytimlucypeterolivia · 02/01/2025 22:37

I’m a bit of a Tv connoisseur and I couldn’t get into it… I guess it’s one of them things. There’s shows I love but others don’t…just the way of life… if we all liked the same things the world would be a boring place.

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MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:36

Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:33

There is no way to identify a traitor. It's just a guess. So accusing someone of being a traitor is unproblematic. It's not an insult or a slur. It's random.

It’s not meant to be an insult or a slur. Incorrectly accusing someone of being a traitor is problematic as you haven’t eliminated one. They are still at large and you need to whittle them down. The traitors can recruit a new one but as the game progresses they are less likely to as they won’t want to share the prize. Also, guessing a newly recruited traitor becomes easier as their behaviour changes.

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But you're not "whittling them down". There are three of them. There will still be three of them if you find one because they'll recruit another one

It's only at the very final stage when you are legitimately losing traitors

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lolly792 · 02/01/2025 22:35

Why do your family watch it?

Bleachbum · 02/01/2025 22:35

MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:29

But losing a traitor at this stage just means another one takes their place.

And faithfuls are killed for random reasons.

There's no skill in it but the contestants act as if there is, just as in Deal Or No Deal.

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Yes, at this stage there is no skill, that was my point. It’s as the game progresses that it becomes strategic.

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MasterBeth · 02/01/2025 22:34

lolly792 · 02/01/2025 22:32

@MasterBeth you're asking why people watch it.

I watch it because it's an easy watch at the end of the working day. And it can be fascinating to see the groupthink and how contestants sway each others opinions.

Why do you watch it?

Because my family are watching it.

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