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To think that men just actually don’t want to do that much after their OH gives birth?

108 replies

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 02/01/2025 19:35

So I had my DC before Shared Parental Leave became a thing. I remember other mums saying how paternity leave is crap and it needs to be better (my own DH owns a business so took a week off each time then had to get back to work, no paternity entitlement). There was a real feel that “If only the men could be off work more they’d be able to do more to help!”. As many experience the first year or so can be a war between knackered mums who’ve been with baby all day and knackered dads who’ve worked all day. I’ve heard lots of men say things like “I WISH I could stay at home with the baby” or “If I only I had more time to help.” SPL was the beacon of “Dads can finally help out like they’ve said they want to for years”.

So we know after so much fighting and moaning for it, shared parental leave has had shockingly low uptake (5% of eligible men) . Not so popular when offered it apparently.

There’s always so many threads on MN about men who basically treat paternity leave like time off, use it to go on their “head wetting” with mates etc, and how women still have to do the housework shortly after they’ve given birth. There seems to be no push whatsoever to pressure men into doing more. When people talk about helping women postnatally they often mean other women coming over to cook, clean, let the mum nap etc. Similarly 1 in 10 women experience PND, a huge symptom of which is loneliness and feeling the mental load. Men could utilise SPL if they actually cared about all this, but so few do.

AIBU to think that for all the years they’ve spent saying “I WISH I could be at home with the baby” and blaming having to work on their lack of input, men actually don’t want ’help’ at all?

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BecuaseIWantItThatWay · 02/01/2025 19:48

My DH's first day back at work today. I'm breastfeeding and he today told me that (although he's supposed to but has not been doing everything else by himself) that he is doing too much 🙄

Whatsitreallylike · 02/01/2025 19:47

Many companies offer much more generous enhanced maternity leave which makes it possible for women to take time off for extended periods. The same cannot be said for fathers. My workplace offers men the same as women (very rare) with 6 months full pay parental leave regardless of gender, and the uptake in fathers is close to 100%

My DP was very hands on and is a fantastic Dad. Did at least 50% of night wakings / feedings / changing etc…

Runmybathforme · 02/01/2025 19:47

YABU by generalising. Yes, some men are useless, but there are many men who love the time at home with their new family. My DH couldn’t do enough, he loved every minute of it.

Nogaxeh · 02/01/2025 19:46

There's a small number of men who have got with the programme and realise that it's the 21st century now, but as for the majority of them, it's really up to women not to put up with it.

Women in Iceland stopped putting up with it in the 70s and things changed there.

AngelAva · 02/01/2025 19:46

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Forgottobuymincepies · 02/01/2025 19:43

My dh was made redundant and became a sahd..... I went back when ds was 10 weeks old. Self employed.. Both work ft now and def do 50/50.

brummumma · 02/01/2025 19:41

Of course they don't. And if the mother is breastfeeding what "help" would they be anyway?! Having a newborn isn't that hard. I'd have killed my (ex) husband if he'd been home any longer than 2 weeks

(The only time it might have been useful to have longer leave was when my twins were born premature and were in NICU for 3 weeks but TBH I was driving myself 2 weeks after my c section)

bakewellbride · 02/01/2025 19:41

Yabu to make such a generalisation, my dh did absolutely loads. 'Men' is not just one same thing.