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Colleague has thrown everything away that was on my desk

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WinkyTinky · 02/01/2025 11:27

Back to work after Christmas and a few weeks off sick, to find that one of my colleagues who sometimes works at my desk has thrown away all of my papers. It was mostly handwritten notes about kids' appointments, my holiday plans, lists of things to remember about school, school calendars, and my eldest son's GCSE timetable. It was all personal sentimental stuff that I liked to have on my desk to see and remind me. I asked where it all was and he said that he has "got rid of all the crap." I'm really disappointed and a bit furious actually, but he thinks it's all perfectly fine. I know I'm a ridiculous softy about a lot of things, but this was MY stuff.

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Sadtosaythis · 02/01/2025 17:30

Ohnonotmeagain · 02/01/2025 11:36

It was mostly handwritten notes about kids' appointments, my holiday plans, lists of things to remember about school, school calendars, and my eldest son's GCSE timetable. It was all personal sentimental stuff that I liked to have on my desk to see and remind me

I think it’s unprofessional to have this sort of stuff all over your work desk, especially if others have to use it.

it’s work, you’re not there to worry about your sons timetable or kids appointments. It makes you look as if you’re more invested in your kids life than your work.

a photo is enough if you want something sentimental. Not the minutiae of your kids lives.

get a diary, clear your desk of your personal rubbish.

@Ohnonotmeagain are you being serious? You sound like a character out of a Charles Dickens novel.

FiftyPenceWorth · 02/01/2025 17:24

If there are only two women in the office, could you get a lock for the toilet door and keep the key between you? I wouldn't want to use the same facilities as this fucking weirdo, that's for sure.
Oh, and he could just have put your stuff to one side, rather than binning it. He's an arsehole as well as a weirdo.

RiseOfGru · 02/01/2025 17:23

This thread, like so many, seems to be full of women who have internalised misogyny and want to explain away or minimise this man's behaviour.

This man is bullying not only the OP but all the women in this workplace. How she deals with it depends on how her workplace operates and some good ideas have been put forward, but I do think the OP needs to protect herself and get this on the record even if she says she doesn't want to take it forward at this stage, and then encourage everyone to log incidents with this man big and small with dates, times, exactly what was done or said. Take photos, keep the loo roll if he writes on it again, etc.

I disagree with the idea that you "don't have HR" though, OP, because if there is no HR department or person, that falls to your boss. Everywhere has to deal with bullying or harassment of one person, or a whole group.

With regards to the people who keep going on about 'being professional', clear desk policies etc. you must be very sheltered people having only worked in one business or one type of business, and probably a nightmare to work with because you don't actually pay attention to what you are told!! And you probably don't understand more broadly that very efficient people can have different ways of working, and also might have additional needs which the unclear desk or notes are related to! So perhaps start the new year thinking about all that instead of trying to be so right-on.

holju · 02/01/2025 17:15

WinkyTinky · 02/01/2025 14:29

I've never had reason to ask anyone to put my stuff away when I've been off, I trust everyone to just leave it. I've left bits of money on my desk with no problem, even significant money when I've had collections for staff leaving, no problems. And even though this person has a track record for nasty or weird behaviour, I was not expecting this. He's been here as long as I have, and is seen as a bit of a golden boy as he is the only one here who knows how to repair the machines. Of course, he could train others to do this, but he won't. He has handed in his notice several times but has always been persuaded to stay because of this, so he pretty much holds the company to ransom. Everyone is quite suspicious of him, and the women in particular (only two of us left now) don't like him. But I will not be driven out of a job I like. I can put up with him. Yes it is a construction/engineering company, but not a portakabin, just a cold office which is now freezing with the heating being off over Christmas. The heating was also off for a week in November so I brought a sleeping bag in to cover my legs. It really is bloody freezing. As for the hierachy, we have a frankly mad owner who is ruining the business and will probably in the end cost us our jobs. The managing director is never here as he looks after other companies so we just get on with our work ourselves. In any case, he thinks the sun shines out of this man's arse.

Given this update I'd let this incident go and make it your New Years Resolution to find another role. I understand that you like the job but if the owner is destroying the business, you could easily find yourself without pay if the business goes bust. No-one should be messing with your stuff but it seems there is not much you can do if he's unsackable.

TisGrandsoitis · 02/01/2025 17:01

Your colleague sounds like a prize wanker who needs sorting out and why are you working in a cold office? I wouldn’t accept that and I’d be hounding someone to sort out the heating as a priority.

Next, I’d have a blazing stand up row with said colleague so he wouldn’t dare touch mine or anyone else’s stuff ever again. (I have done this when it was warranted in the past and bullying colleague learnt not to mess with me.)

PrincessScarlett · 02/01/2025 16:59

To be fair, he didn't bin your sleeping bag so sounds like he was just chucking what he considered was crap/scraps of paper rather than all your personal stuff.

He does still sound like a general twat though with the other comments you have made about him.

herearesomenuts · 02/01/2025 16:58

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JoannaGroats · 02/01/2025 16:57

I’d hate to see a desk with ancient hand written notes left on it for years on end.

You'd hate it? What a weirdly extreme reaction to something that has zero effect on your life.

JoannaGroats · 02/01/2025 16:55

Doesn’t your work have a clear desk policy?

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BetjemansBear · 02/01/2025 16:53

It was mostly handwritten notes about kids' appointments, my holiday plans, lists of things to remember about school, school calendars, and my eldest son's GCSE timetable.

Sounds like life admin, which women bear the brunt of. Even if it's out of date now, these things will still be a trigger for future admin. Some of the comments sound like they're made by very young people.

JoannaGroats · 02/01/2025 16:52

Scaredandalonepls · 02/01/2025 16:36

I think it does if it’s a load of crap 👍 an office isn’t the OPs personal storage area.

What if you think a colleague’s lunch looks disgusting? Would you take it out of the fridge and bin it? Throw away their favourite mug because it was chipped?

It wasn’t HIS! Therefore he doesn’t get to bin it, regardless of his opinion on it!

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Bellavida99 · 02/01/2025 16:45

Doesn’t your work have a clear desk policy? I’d hate to see a desk with ancient hand written notes left on it for years on end. How do the cleaners clean your desk with paper left on it? I don’t blame him at all. Why on earth do you have a GCSE timetable out on your desk? Exams were either 7 months ago or in 5 months time so it’s completely unnecessary.

SharpOpalNewt · 02/01/2025 16:41

Boarb · 02/01/2025 16:21

To be fair, men or women, plenty on here see the things specified as crap that didn't need keeping on a workplace desk in the first place.

So what? Strictly speaking I don't "need" a plant on my desk or a pot of hand creme or some puffin coasters or family photos but anyone who came along and decided they were a load of unimportant crap would get short shrift from me.

The fundamental rule is that if you borrow someone else's desk for a short time, if you have to move anything at all you put it back exactly as you found it.

Gwenhwyfar · 02/01/2025 16:41

JoannaGroats · 02/01/2025 16:33

It’s ridiculous to suggest you shouldn’t keep anything on a desk allocated to you just in case someone else arbitrarily decides to bin it. Whether you, the OP’s colleague or anyone else thinks it’s “crap” is another matter.

Yes, should nobody have a coat because if you leave it on a hook a colleague might throw it away?

Gwenhwyfar · 02/01/2025 16:39

Scaredandalonepls · 02/01/2025 16:36

I think it does if it’s a load of crap 👍 an office isn’t the OPs personal storage area.

Unless there's a rule against it, people are allowed to bring personal things to the office. In my cupboard, there is a shelf full of my colleagues' clothes. Should I throw them away because it's 'personal storage'.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/01/2025 16:39

Her office clearly has a different culture to ones you are familiar with. And even in an office where personal stuff isn't allowed, a colleague binning it without any discussion is unacceptable.

Gwenhwyfar · 02/01/2025 16:38

"See the original post, "One of my colleagues who sometimes works at my desk." If that isn't a shared desk, I don't know what is. "

A shared desk is one that is officially allocated to more than one person e.g. in a hot desking situation or a job share. Someone else occasionally using a desk does not in itself make it a shared desk. I have my own desk. If someone else needed to use it temporarily, it would still be my desk.

"Who wants details of their colleagues' holiday plans, kids' exams, etc. in their work area?"

If it bothers you, move it to the side. No need to bin them!

HardenYourHeart · 02/01/2025 16:37

WinkyTinky · 02/01/2025 15:22

Maybe I shouldn't be so forgetful, but if I don't have things written down and in my view, I do forget stuff. Yes I'm at work, but I need to keep track of home stuff, and it's not strewn all over. As for my son's GCSE timetable, yes that was the summer just gone, and I was mentally with him for every one of those exams as he has had a difficult time over the past couple of years. I kept the timetable on my desk as a keepsake, but as it was published on Class Charts and he's left school now, I can't get that back. People might think I'm over-sentimental, but that's me.

Well, you coworker is an asshole. Next time throw some of his stuff away.

But looking at the bigger picture, the place sounds quite disorganized. Even though you like the job, I would not be sticking around for the fallout if(when?) it all does go up in flames.

As for notes, I use Microsoft OneNote. I have it on my phone as well as my PC. It syncs the notes across devices, so I never lose anything.

Scaredandalonepls · 02/01/2025 16:36

ErrolTheDragon · 02/01/2025 16:34

He probs thought it was old crap and it sounds like it was from the way OP describes it.

Doesn't excuse him binning another person's stuff.

I think it does if it’s a load of crap 👍 an office isn’t the OPs personal storage area.

Scaredandalonepls · 02/01/2025 16:35

WinkyTinky · 02/01/2025 15:22

Maybe I shouldn't be so forgetful, but if I don't have things written down and in my view, I do forget stuff. Yes I'm at work, but I need to keep track of home stuff, and it's not strewn all over. As for my son's GCSE timetable, yes that was the summer just gone, and I was mentally with him for every one of those exams as he has had a difficult time over the past couple of years. I kept the timetable on my desk as a keepsake, but as it was published on Class Charts and he's left school now, I can't get that back. People might think I'm over-sentimental, but that's me.

A keepsake. Right. You clearly just had a load of crap on your desk that needed to be removed and now have a bee in your bonnet.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/01/2025 16:34

He probs thought it was old crap and it sounds like it was from the way OP describes it.

Doesn't excuse him binning another person's stuff.

DelphiniumBlue · 02/01/2025 16:33

He shouldn't be touching your stuff. It makes no difference what it was, or whether or not it's "professional" to keep personal notes on your desk, the point is they are yours, and not his. He has no right to bin them If he really needed the space clear to work, he could have put them in a drawer, or in a pile somewhere else. That is some highhanded move to be pulling on you, and I hope you are making a big fuss. Don't fume silently, he's got no business touching your possessions. They were on your desk, and his behaviour was disrespectful.
You know where you stand with him now. Is it something you'd bring up with management? There needs to be a clear policy about moving people's things, especially if there is potential desk sharing.

sussexman · 02/01/2025 16:33

WoolySnail · 02/01/2025 16:15

It's not a shared desk

See the original post, "One of my colleagues who sometimes works at my desk." If that isn't a shared desk, I don't know what is. Should he have thrown stuff that wasn't his out? Absolutely not. Neither, in my view, should it have been left around where it would get in his way. Who wants details of their colleagues' holiday plans, kids' exams, etc. in their work area?

JoannaGroats · 02/01/2025 16:33

battairzeedurgzome · 02/01/2025 16:09

Well, lesson learned: if you don't want someone to bin your crap, keep it at home, if you need to keep it at all.

It’s ridiculous to suggest you shouldn’t keep anything on a desk allocated to you just in case someone else arbitrarily decides to bin it. Whether you, the OP’s colleague or anyone else thinks it’s “crap” is another matter.