To be horrified I used to wake at this time every day?

Are you this much of a dick in RL too?
The person you're replying to didn't say it was rare they said it was horrible. 🙄

Is that what this is? 😱😱😱

@Lostinmusic22 just because something is standard and not unusual doesn't mean it's not hellish! Thrush is standard and not unusual but doesn't mean I want to experience it willingly

ummm this is a pretty standard experience…. Not unusual in the least.

It is for millions of women.

Don’t do a me and have a baby at 43 then crash straight into perimenopause 😭😭😭

At least with the menopause you don't have to entertain a toddler.

Getting up at 5am every.single.day is my reality with my 14 month old. Unless anyone is living it right now then honestly they can piss off with their superior opinions of that being reasonable. It's not. Sleep deprivation is a known form of torture.
My preferred time to get up is 7am and I would prefer to go to bed at 10:30pm in order to do that. So I'd have to go to bed at 8:30pm, but I can't get to sleep. So you can't just shift your body clock, it's not possible for everyone.
I'm not a lazy person at all. I have a PhD and am a lawyer. I need my sleep for my brain to function but currently I'm scared about how I can't think straight and have such awful brain fog because I just need more sleep.!!
In theory, yes getting up at 5am with the birds singing and having a coffee is lovely, if you have the option to go back to bed if you want to. In reality, getting up with a clingy toddler who won't even let you put his 10kg arse down to make him Weetabix or go to the toilet, in the dark when it's cold, is not fun. It's just not. Sorry but stop making me feel bad that I absolutely hate it. It's completely unreasonable #thistooshallpass

I remember the years of DS waking for the day at 04:30. I refer to them as "the grey years" as I was permanently grey faced and haggard from lack of sleep. I lived in a fog trying to juggle work, childcare and school for older DD. He used to wake up every 2 hours through the night and then start the day at the aforementioned 04:30. I don't know how we mums do it.

Autism and ADHD, sleeps the minimum his body will allow and then wakes up like it’s the middle of the day. Like, wants to be in the park at 2am.

Night and day are a myth in this house. We just do awake or briefly asleep 😂

My eldest was an ok sleeper but younger one was a really bad sleeper and I remember being absolutely exhausted when they were little. It's a shame as all i did was get through the day really.

sounds like a teething thing? Right at the age where if something is niggling them a bit they can't get back to sleep easily.

My 8yo DSs has just stopped a 10 month spell of getting up at 3am. Before that he would sleep until 5, but with 6171561871 wake ups (that may be slight an exaggeration). Sometimes he wakes up at 11pm and decides he’s done for the night.

I am tired to my very core and would probably dance out of bed for 7am get up if offered 😂

@leafybrew waking on your own at 4/5am is a lot different to waking to a toddler at 5am who wants entertaining and immediate attention. Completely different!

Can you imagine the MN threads at the time? "Some nutter is out playing in the garden with the kids and cleaning her bloody rabbits out at 4.40am!! AIBU to ask her to keep it to a more civilised time next time? The sun is barely up. If this was winter it would still be dark for another 3 hours!!"

A lot of jobs start at 9.00am though, that's not unusual. Getting up 4 hours before you need to start work would be more unusual.

Yeah, it's wierd how early risers are thought of as productive because they're "seizing the day" and the opposite of lazy, yet can go to bed at 9.30pm, while someone who prefers to get up later and go to bed later mgiht get exactly the same amount of hours sleep but are somehow seen as more lazy.

Horses for courses.

oooh, no, 5am was still night time to me. I was lucky in that I only had a part time job when my youngest was a baby, it was only one weekend day (when DH wasn't working) so the preschool years were lurrvely! I really appreciated those couple of years of having the choice of when to get up.

I'm hardcore stubborn though, I aimed for 7am get-ups and just refused to get them up before about 6.15am at all. Occasionally they'd sleep later than 7am if a bit under the weather or teething and had a bad night, and sometimes in the summer or on holiday somehwere different they'd be awake from 6.20am or something, just babbling in their cots for a bit. But I just didn't get them up if it was before 6am. They always went back to sleep if left.

I was strict with daytime naps though. Never let them sleep too long or too late into the afternoon. Had it pitch dark and quiet in their bedrooms. I was too much of a control freak about it though, because it meant that they rarely fell asleep in their prams on a day out. Too much going on.

Mind you, my kids aren't naturally morning people I don't think. They're both at uni normally and a couple of times while at home for the holidays have just been coming home at 5am!!

My body clock would naturally have me waking at 10 or 11 in the morning, I suppose at least the natural early risers don't get called lazy 😫

I leave the house at 20 to 7 to catch the bus to work. I hate rushing around in the morning so get up at 5 or 5.30 (occasionally a bit earlier if I need to finish some marking that I'd brought home the night before).

I've been going to bed later and later since school broke up and have been getting up later and later each morning.

Not looking forward to going back to work next week. I'm going to miss my lie ins.

And I wake up at that time due to my autistic child. Still hate it though, and sympathise with others who have to be up at that time when they don’t want to be.

Difficult to sympathise...wake up at this time for work as do many commuters 🤔

I used to feel nauseous if the day started far too early and yes I understand that people get up at 5am ever day for work but those people are obviously built differently. I’m a night owl, no problem doing a workout at 9pm, but I need a solid 9 hours sleep for optimal functioning. Always have done.

I agree, the early starts are horrendous unless you are naturally a morning person and go to bed early. The days would feel so long and you can't really go anywhere til 9 or 10. I was lucky mine woke at 7am onwards once they settled into a routine, but some of my friends were up with their kids at 5-6am for years. It does seem quite normal, and as pp say, not bad if you can work your sleep patterns around it, but for me as a night owl, early starts are the worst!