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To think my marriage is over

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Fastforwardayear · 01/01/2025 10:59

So I have been married for 10 years, together for 16 years. Have 2 children aged 4 and 7 and since they came along I have been so lonely. DH is out most night of the week and doesn’t help with much at home. He spends weekends away at various events and thinks that this behaviour is ok. It might be for some people but it isn’t for me. This is not how I thought family life would be. The resentment has built up that much I can’t stand the thought of being intimate with him and he doesn’t feel he needs to change anything to gain that back so I honestly feel we are at a loss. I do love him very much but really, is that enough?. The thought of him meeting somebody else really hurts but I still think that alone isn’t enough to keep us together.

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HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 03/01/2025 19:21

martinisforeveryone · 03/01/2025 17:17

@Fastforwardayear I don’t think you do need to think about it. Your ‘revenge’ and satisfaction should be a life well lived, your life well lived. It’s so new and raw now though and your thoughts will be very mixed up.

I know a couple who divorced. She stayed single and very bitter, which blighted her life. He moved on and married the OW. From the outside it looked like he came off better than his ex, but it was all for show. He had to change so many things to suit his much younger wife and her children, he had to compromise his former lifestyle and hobbies. He neared retirement, she retrained and took on a brand new independent life, he got lonely. It wasn’t the exciting new life he’d foreseen for himself, but he did his best to keep up appearances.

You’re unlikely to know the truth about your ex’s real thoughts in the future, so focus on yourself.

I just felt an enormous sense of peace once he went.
Obviously the children were upset, but it spared them being exposed to his toxic behaviour for more than a few hours pw.
He has much more of a social life than me now, but I am truly happy and at peace.
I eventually met someone else, but found my own happiness long before that of you know what I mean.
Mine are older teens/ nearly adults now, and they have talked to me about the fact that they love dad and are glad they have a relationship with him, but are glad that I protected them from his toxic nonsense being in their lives 100% of the time.
I honestly believe that although the breakup is of course upsetting for the children, Equal upsetting is being witness to or subject to emotional abuse, having a mum with poor mental health because of how she is treated etc.
I think the biggest thing I felt was grieving for what I hoped my marriage might have been, but jot what it ever actually was.

martinisforeveryone · 03/01/2025 17:17

@Fastforwardayear I don’t think you do need to think about it. Your ‘revenge’ and satisfaction should be a life well lived, your life well lived. It’s so new and raw now though and your thoughts will be very mixed up.

I know a couple who divorced. She stayed single and very bitter, which blighted her life. He moved on and married the OW. From the outside it looked like he came off better than his ex, but it was all for show. He had to change so many things to suit his much younger wife and her children, he had to compromise his former lifestyle and hobbies. He neared retirement, she retrained and took on a brand new independent life, he got lonely. It wasn’t the exciting new life he’d foreseen for himself, but he did his best to keep up appearances.

You’re unlikely to know the truth about your ex’s real thoughts in the future, so focus on yourself.

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 16:53

martinisforeveryone · 03/01/2025 16:13

I suppose it would be good to know others who have been in this situation and what the outcome was in the end?

@Fastforwardayear but would it really? Some might wish they'd carried on in silence being miserable but hanging on to the status quo and others will have positively thrived. None of them will have lived your life.

I think you hit the nail on the head about talking to someone who can help build up your confidence.

I'd like to hear you absolutely confident that you are moving upwards because the way this man has treated you and what he's become, is absolutely not good enough for you. He was, but he isn't now. He's become someone you don't really recognise, he's bringing you down.

You don't want this man how he is now. You've said that yourself. Keep rereading the thread, you've had some good observations and advice. Maybe start a new thread in relationships asking how people navigating divorce and rebuilding life are managing and what they wish they'd know, or their top tips.

I just think it will be a bit shit if ends up better off after how horrible he was to me. Do I really need to even care about that though?

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martinisforeveryone · 03/01/2025 16:13

I suppose it would be good to know others who have been in this situation and what the outcome was in the end?

@Fastforwardayear but would it really? Some might wish they'd carried on in silence being miserable but hanging on to the status quo and others will have positively thrived. None of them will have lived your life.

I think you hit the nail on the head about talking to someone who can help build up your confidence.

I'd like to hear you absolutely confident that you are moving upwards because the way this man has treated you and what he's become, is absolutely not good enough for you. He was, but he isn't now. He's become someone you don't really recognise, he's bringing you down.

You don't want this man how he is now. You've said that yourself. Keep rereading the thread, you've had some good observations and advice. Maybe start a new thread in relationships asking how people navigating divorce and rebuilding life are managing and what they wish they'd know, or their top tips.

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 15:30

martinisforeveryone · 03/01/2025 14:55

@Fastforwardayear there is a saying that forbidden fruit is sweeter, but of course, as soon as it's no longer 'forbidden' that's off the menu.

One thing I would urge of you, or anyone reading this, who is in a similar position, please stop taking ownership of his faults and difficulties. You haven't engineered this situation and you won't be an impact on his future happiness or how he lives his life. He will cease to be your problem.

Look forward and look to your own happiness.

I suppose it would be good to know others who have been in this situation and what the outcome was in the end?

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martinisforeveryone · 03/01/2025 14:55

@Fastforwardayear there is a saying that forbidden fruit is sweeter, but of course, as soon as it's no longer 'forbidden' that's off the menu.

One thing I would urge of you, or anyone reading this, who is in a similar position, please stop taking ownership of his faults and difficulties. You haven't engineered this situation and you won't be an impact on his future happiness or how he lives his life. He will cease to be your problem.

Look forward and look to your own happiness.

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 14:50

WinkyTinky · 03/01/2025 12:57

I'm so sorry OP. I've skim-read all your posts but not the replies, and honestly I could be writing this, especially all the going out doing his own thing, and the horrendous teeth. Not to mention being able to manipulate counsellors. I had exactly that experience and I felt like I was going mad. Me and you both, we're single mothers stuck in an unhappy marriage and we are worth so much more than this. Forget his 'good' features and move on and away from this terrible man.

Are you still married to him?

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Ceecee2422 · 03/01/2025 14:03

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 10:30

Why do men think that the grass is greener? I’m guessing sometimes it is but she also has a son, what makes him think she won’t put him first?

Because the grass is always greener at first until reality sets in and he starts to hate things about her and she him, things never stay rosy for long and it’s only people who really want to stay together that put the work in and stay together otherwise they just spend life drifting and sounds like he isn’t capable of putting in the work with anyone so I honestly wouldn’t worry too much, I bet in years time when you’re fine he’ll still be drifting through different relationships and never actually having anything meaningful so just make your life the best it can be now.

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 13:08

WinkyTinky · 03/01/2025 12:57

I'm so sorry OP. I've skim-read all your posts but not the replies, and honestly I could be writing this, especially all the going out doing his own thing, and the horrendous teeth. Not to mention being able to manipulate counsellors. I had exactly that experience and I felt like I was going mad. Me and you both, we're single mothers stuck in an unhappy marriage and we are worth so much more than this. Forget his 'good' features and move on and away from this terrible man.

It’s really shit. For me when the kids came along it was like he became a completely different person almost overnight

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WinkyTinky · 03/01/2025 12:57

I'm so sorry OP. I've skim-read all your posts but not the replies, and honestly I could be writing this, especially all the going out doing his own thing, and the horrendous teeth. Not to mention being able to manipulate counsellors. I had exactly that experience and I felt like I was going mad. Me and you both, we're single mothers stuck in an unhappy marriage and we are worth so much more than this. Forget his 'good' features and move on and away from this terrible man.

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 12:46

I suppose I sometimes question if I was the problem, will he end up much happier than me?

but then I think I would have never treated him badly, all I have done is tried to make it work. He says he likes being a relationship which says a lot as I would rather stand on a plug than get into a new one.

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randomchap · 03/01/2025 10:53

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 10:48

Yes I have a really good family and a good group of friends. I do find it easier to speak to people I don’t know though x

That's good.

Anonymous places like this are a help, but real life support is important too.

You'll be better off without him. It's shit now, but will get better

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 10:48

randomchap · 03/01/2025 10:43

I doubt it's one of these grass is greener situations. He was living the life of a single man with zero responsibilities when he was with you.

You've now decided you're better than this and have dumped the prick.

He's probably not even that interested in this other woman, he's just trying to upset you.

If you can, just see him as a co-parent. Don't rise to him when he talks about other women. Grey rock technique is helpful here as mentioned before.

I know you're getting lots of support here, but do you have support in real life?

Yes I have a really good family and a good group of friends. I do find it easier to speak to people I don’t know though x

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randomchap · 03/01/2025 10:43

I doubt it's one of these grass is greener situations. He was living the life of a single man with zero responsibilities when he was with you.

You've now decided you're better than this and have dumped the prick.

He's probably not even that interested in this other woman, he's just trying to upset you.

If you can, just see him as a co-parent. Don't rise to him when he talks about other women. Grey rock technique is helpful here as mentioned before.

I know you're getting lots of support here, but do you have support in real life?

Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 10:30

Why do men think that the grass is greener? I’m guessing sometimes it is but she also has a son, what makes him think she won’t put him first?

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Fastforwardayear · 03/01/2025 09:44

Rainbow1901 · 02/01/2025 23:20

Talking Therapies is really good for this and you can refer yourself online. There is usually a waiting list but you'll be busy creating your new life while you wait anyway!! Good luck OP!

I am handling it a lot better than I thought to be honest. I do need a therapist to get my confidence back though.

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Rainbow1901 · 02/01/2025 23:20

Fastforwardayear · 02/01/2025 22:53

Yes I do plan on doing this. Today is the most relaxed I have felt in years. Although I am sad about it all I have moments of complete liberation and am really optimistic about the future

Talking Therapies is really good for this and you can refer yourself online. There is usually a waiting list but you'll be busy creating your new life while you wait anyway!! Good luck OP!

Fastforwardayear · 02/01/2025 22:53

jgjgjgjgjg · 02/01/2025 22:39

Please do find a counsellor just for you, and make use of that hour a week to talk through things and begin to make some sense of it and re-discover the 'real you'.

Yes I do plan on doing this. Today is the most relaxed I have felt in years. Although I am sad about it all I have moments of complete liberation and am really optimistic about the future

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jgjgjgjgjg · 02/01/2025 22:39

Please do find a counsellor just for you, and make use of that hour a week to talk through things and begin to make some sense of it and re-discover the 'real you'.

Fastforwardayear · 02/01/2025 21:58

Everytime I have a wobble, I read through this thread and I feel grounded again. Thank you so much for all your help you lovely ladies. I can’t thank you all enough honestly x

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YourGladSquid · 02/01/2025 21:21

Fastforwardayear · 02/01/2025 21:10

How long did it bother you for?

The first time around it was only for a few months, probably less than 6 and I wasn’t super obsessed. It’s important to say though, it was a DV situation and I wasn’t in love anymore. I was fixated because I also have a history of ED and poor self-esteem.

The second time it happened was a very different context and I was 100% blindsided - I was looking up this person multiple times a day looking for explanations or what she had to offer because it was so out of the blue for me.

Then I saw an unfiltered video lol and it helped a lot. I also went to counselling for about 6 months. I’m not 100% over the cheating but she has no effect on my self worth anymore, it feels like a bit of a distant memory.

Fastforwardayear · 02/01/2025 21:10

YourGladSquid · 01/01/2025 18:33

If you go down that road it’s going to drive you crazy (I’ve been there, trust me).

The only things she “has” is not being attached to real life and the responsibilities of running a family. He’s weak and selfish.

How long did it bother you for?

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Arraminta · 02/01/2025 17:38

OP It's a difficult lesson to learn but there's a vast difference between being alone, and being lonely. I think there's nothing lonelier than being married to a man who clearly doesn't care about you.

And, if the man in your life regularly makes you feel sad, neglected, confused - then they just don't love you. The really don't.

Motherbear44 · 02/01/2025 17:29

Fastforwardayear · 01/01/2025 11:54

One night that sticks in my mind in particular (this might sound trivial) was when I had planned a big night out with the girls after stopping BF my son at 18 months. I was so excited and got myself all dressed up. He was going for food for one of his friends birthdays but agreed he would come back. It got to 23:30 and I just had mascara all down my face and his excuse was, you knew I was out I could t just leave could I.

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That is NOT trivial. That is serious disrespect.

Kelwar · 02/01/2025 17:17

Fastforwardayear · 02/01/2025 12:36

I didn’t sleep much last night. Just kept trying to work out everything in my head. He has definitely been having an emotional affair with her and if I am honest I think that is where he has gone.

Just think, she’ll have to wake up to his bloody stained teeth and rotten breath this morning… good luck to her