To think dogs shouldn't be in pubs?

I put my dog on a "rigorous training programme", from a puppy so he would be used to pubs, and it's paid off.

We're doing that now with our 6 month old golden. It's such a hardship isn't it 🤣

I've stopped in a hotel with my border collie. If the hotel allows it then they'll be there.

I’m in a hotel and someone has brought their bloody Alsatian 🤷🏼‍♀️

I used to take my old dog and really long hikes and walks then to the pub. Nothing better than a country pub and roast dinner after a 15 mile hike.

Don't like it? Go to spoons. I highly doubt the dog friendly pubs care for your opinions, the ones near me all have dog menus and are doing pretty well, so they aren't about to do something that would upset their core demographic.

I agree, people have started to treat dogs like they're human. I especially don't like them in restaurants or cafés. I don't want to eat surrounded by smelly dogs.

You do realise that shops, pubs and cafes are private businesses and can make their own rules? If the owners find it financially beneficial to make their premises welcoming to people with dogs, then that’s what they will do. Pubs have welcomed dogs forever anyway. A local cafe owner has told me she much prefers dogs to children. Quieter and far less messy!

I think you’ve misunderstood my post. I welcome both dogs and children in pubs - having quite the collection of both myself!
My point was that the person I was replying to obviously just hates dogs so probably can’t have a reasonable discussion on the matter

I agree. I'm allergic as are a lot of people.

@5128gap classic entitled dog owner response that “the majority” of people “love” dogs! A significant portion of the population hate them or are indifferent!

YANBU.

i love dogs, but not in eating spaces.

@satsumaqueen I haven't taken it personally i have just explained my own situation. My dog does t come food shopping (I very rarely go) as its done by DH. I don't under why people take their dogs to supermarkets (I haven't actually seen anyone do that) and I certainly wouldn't take mine to walk around a shopping centre, but I would struggle to physically do that anyway as my condition causes me to fall if I don't concentrate on my walking which is hard to do when i have lots of people around me and I couldn't do that and worry about my dog so unless DH is with me my shopping is done online.

But my world would become much smaller and I would become very reclusive again if I couldn't get out to a cafe and have a coffee with a friend now and then with my dog to give me the confidence to go. That has changed my life for the better. In sorry if that might affect t other people (no one has ever complained about my dog) but if the option to take my dog is there and allows me to have a little normality i will take it.

Yes there are people that allow their dogs to be a pain and they annoy me too as I want to enjoy a coffee and a chat too and don't want someone's giant dog hassling mine but as with all things there are people who are considerate of others (and of their pets) and those that are not and that is a shame.

Wetherspoons seems to be doing OK as a chain with their no dogs policy.

I do think though that the "just go somewhere that doesn't allow dogs" people are a bit deluded - I cannot think of one casual restaurant / pub / cafe near me which does not allow dogs. Most will have some sort of well-behaved dog policy but it's often left to the staff on low wages to police that, and we all know asking an owner with a badly behaved dog to deal with it, shut it up and stop it bothering other customers goes down like a bucket of cold sick.

Basically, if you can't control your animal to the level of other people not even realising it is there, then you shouldn't be taking it out.

Nah, I love my dog, would bring him everywhere if I could.

I don’t care what anyone else thinks, I no longer care about their needs/wants tbh. Why should we cater for the minority? The majority of people love dogs yet I have to tolerate people making poor decisions, smoking while I’m in their presence while working, paying taxes, having children and expecting the state to foot the bill, fly tipping, dietary requirements, children identifying as a cats…. Honestly a dog in the pub or a shop is absolutely minor. If you don’t like it go to a non-dog pub.

in Italy they allow dogs in supermarkets, I aspire to that.

It’s about consideration and responsible ownership really isn’t it?
We now have one dog and will take him to a pub or around town at the end of a long walk but we know he’s quiet, well behaved and chilled and if he wasn’t we would take him out- just the same as we did when we had small children if they misbehaved.

One of our previous dogs was anxious and nervous around other dogs in crowded places so we would never take him into cafes, pubs etc as it wouldn’t be fair on him or anyone else.

So many people think they have the right to do what they want with no consideration for others and won’t do the work needed, or make adjustments to manage the situation.

Because on Mumsnet dogs are valued more than children. Having a 'furbaby' is some people's whole personality. Not just on MN tho. I have recently watched true crime documentary, all family with kids perished, dog survived. You can imagine comments!

YABU, I prefer pubs that allow dogs

The problem with Dog Owners is they always think “but not my dog, my dog is wonderful”. They also always think their dog is well behaved and not one of those I am talking about when I say I find dogs a nuisance but they are always wrong. The entitlement of dog owners over people who are allergic is shocking - you wouldn’t rub nuts in someone with an allergy’s face so why do you let your dog jump up at me?

I don't take my dog to the pub because she's well behaved but is of a nervous disposition and I don't think she'd enjoy it. However there are more pubs that aren't dog friendly than there are dog friendly ones, so if they bother you you could always go to one that has chosen not to allow dogs.

Obviously people who don't have well behaved dogs shouldn't bring them into pubs.

Are we talking country pubs with working breed dogs or are we in fur baby territory?

YABU and I think you shouldn’t be allowed in pubs.

Dogs have always been allowed in most pubs near me as people walk to them and take their dogs, so they are set up for dogs and muddy boots.

However I tend to stay outside with my dog as she is big and the pubs are old and tiny. She is very good but takes up a lot of space.

I think fair enough in a country pub where dog walkers go to walk them but we were in a busy city centre place - it didn’t feel right that dogs were in there. Plus it was quite noisy with not great acoustics which was probably aggravating them.

I love taking my dogs to local cafes that allow dogs.My dogs are well behaved and just lie under the table.
I don't think dogs should be allowed on tte chair or table , bus seats.My son had brittle asthma and was once hospitalised due to being near a dog blanket in a friend's car.Mine are non shedding .
I try to be aware of other people's reaction to dogs, scared children Muslims who believe dogs are dirty etc
Lots of older people love to talk to you about your dogs they are a conversation opener and to some people it may be thier only conversation of the day, We live in a busy society we're often people don't exchange pleasantries, if people live on thier own thier dog could be thier only companion for weeks upon end
The friend I meet once a month loves are see my two dogs .I don't tend to use cafes that don't allow dogs even when I not with the dogs as I don't feel they support my lifestyle choice.
After covid my dogs became very clingy again and anxious when left alone.I can now leave them again for up to 4 hours.It was a pain as I couldn't leave the house unless someone else was in. I understand that some dogs purchased during covid haven't been socialised properly which could cause issues
I wouldn't dream of taking my dogs shopping I always enjoy having them with me on social occasions and enjoy thier company, the warmth and affection they give me.
I don't particularly like places with children running around, the area I live in has recently become gentrified, lots of people moving down from London. I once had small children and toddlers so I realise my children must have been equally annoying at times

What if they were all dressed similar to this? Would that be better?