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To think dogs shouldn't be in pubs?

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Orangesinthebag · 01/01/2025 09:47

Yesterday I went to the pub for an afternoon NY Eve drink and couldn't believe the number of people who brought their dog (sometimes two dogs!) with them.

Why is this such a thing now? Can't dogs be left alone any more?
A couple of the dogs were growling at each other and owners were having to drag them apart.
It happens all the time these days - pubs, cafes, restaurants, shops but only a few years ago it would have been so weird and only guide dogs were allowed into places, especially places serving food.

I love dogs but I know several people who are scared of them & find it difficult to have to encounter them everywhere these days.

Is it unreasonable to think dogs should be kept at home?

(Sorry could add a poll for some reason)

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JHound · 02/01/2025 02:45

YABMU

Joystir59 · 02/01/2025 01:21

MotherofPearl · 01/01/2025 19:24

I agree heartily OP. I find the fact that people seem unwilling or unable to leave their dogs at home, ever, extremely irritating.

Dogs are not people and the absurd veneration of dogs as human - or for some, better or more important than humans - is absurd. Dogs should be treated as dogs, not people.

And that's why my dog is asleep on the floor by my feet when I go to the pub, not standing at the bar chatting about football while downing a pint

hartluck · 02/01/2025 01:17

OP sounds like they’d be fun at parties 😳

Joystir59 · 02/01/2025 01:16

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 22:00

My local pub allows dogs, but bans kids. It is great.

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Yes! 😀

Joystir59 · 02/01/2025 01:15

ExpressCheckout · 01/01/2025 09:51

Personally, I'd prefer a well-behaved dog over a badly behaved child.

Every time 😁

ObelixtheGaul · 02/01/2025 01:06

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 19:39

A few country pubs always allowed it yes, then the rest of the pub population jumped on the bandwagon.

Support your local Spoons. No mutts allowed.

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Our local spoons constantly has the police in attendance and is full of drunk dicks. Dogs would probably be an improvement on their usual clientele.

K0OLA1D · 02/01/2025 00:33

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 19:39

A few country pubs always allowed it yes, then the rest of the pub population jumped on the bandwagon.

Support your local Spoons. No mutts allowed.

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Never lived in the country. So you're so very wrong

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 01/01/2025 22:26

Kaleidoscopic101 · 01/01/2025 09:53

I went to a country pub the other week and a bloke came in on a horse and locals hardly battered an eyelid!

😂
Reminds me of dh’s cousin, whose kids had a pony that used to come in the kitchen and help itself to apples from the fruit bowl. 😂

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 22:00

Daisybuttercup12345 · 01/01/2025 21:53

Prefer dogs to the majority of idiotic people and their brats. I'd much prefer it if kids weren't allowed in pubs.
Yabu.

My local pub allows dogs, but bans kids. It is great.

Goldenbear · 01/01/2025 21:54

Schnauzersaremyheros · 01/01/2025 14:27

My dog would disagree with people who say that dogs hate shopping!
There are some occasions when I need to visit our city centre, and as my dog is with me most of the time anyway, she will tag along. She has the following as her favourite shops:

Body Shop
Lush
Fat Face
Waterstones
Tiger
Blue Banana
Mountain Warehouse.

But this is because she knows that she will get spoilt rotten by the shop assistants, and she will come away with a belly full of treats 😆

I would not take her clothes shopping though, as she is mainly white, and I wouldn't want her brushing up against clothes and leaving hair everywhere. And I think taking a dog in a supermarket is very inappropriate.

Can you even take a dog in a supermarket, what supermarkets permit that? Before Christmas a woman at my local Marks food hall was walking her dog around on am extendable lead, she was asked to leave. I'm allergic to dogs so certainly wouldn't want to go to a supermarket that allows them to wonder around so it would be helpful to know which ones?

Daisybuttercup12345 · 01/01/2025 21:53

Prefer dogs to the majority of idiotic people and their brats. I'd much prefer it if kids weren't allowed in pubs.
Yabu.

Sophiasguitar · 01/01/2025 21:48

Yeah, I’ll carry on taking my dog to dog friendly pubs. We got for half an hour or so after a walk. If this offends then so be it.

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Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 21:41

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 21:37

So, where do you think dogs should be?
Just at home? In a kennel?

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Home, garden, walked and exercised outdoors. Wherever they have been for the past 2000 years. It's not as complex as you make out.

They dont belong in public indoor areas.

blubberball · 01/01/2025 21:40

I go to a pub where you are allowed to sit with your dog in one area, and another area where dogs aren't allowed. Keeps everyone happy that way

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 21:37

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 21:35

Because cafes are for humans to sit at a table and eat and drink. Yes you can throw a bowl on the floor for Fido but that's not their purpose. It'll last as long as it lasts.

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So, where do you think dogs should be?
Just at home? In a kennel?

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 21:35

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 21:25

Being in a cafe is not treating a dog as a human. Why do you think it is?
If an establishment allows dogs, then an owner is doing nothing wrong by taking their dog there. No amount of foot stomping on MN will change that.

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Because cafes are for humans to sit at a table and eat and drink. Yes you can throw a bowl on the floor for Fido but that's not their purpose. It'll last as long as it lasts.

Likewhatever · 01/01/2025 21:33

If an establishment allows dogs, then an owner is doing nothing wrong by taking their dog there.

Just because an establishment allows dogs, it doesn’t follow that an owner is doing nothing wrong by taking their dog there. A very crowded noisy pub won’t necessarily be a good place for a responsible owner to take their dog, even if the establishment allows it.

Sadly a lot of dog owners don’t really care about their pet’s comfort as much as they claim. Every summer dog owners have to be reminded not to walk their dogs on hot pavements, or leave them inside cars.

loveawineloveacrisp · 01/01/2025 21:28

Loads of people love seeing my dog in the pub and pay him loads of attention. Those who don't want to just don't come near. Simples.

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 21:25

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 21:23

They can access the outdoors and do their business - the woods, the beach etc in line with local regs. They dont need to be inside publicly accessible places. They arent humans and shouldnt be treat as such.

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Being in a cafe is not treating a dog as a human. Why do you think it is?
If an establishment allows dogs, then an owner is doing nothing wrong by taking their dog there. No amount of foot stomping on MN will change that.

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 21:23

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 21:18

So, are dogs just meant to stay at home, and never experience other places?
The dogs you see in pubs etc, are well behaved there because they were brought up going to those places, and are used to them.
Guide dogs also have to go to a variety of places so they are used to them.

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They can access the outdoors and do their business - the woods, the beach etc in line with local regs. They dont need to be inside publicly accessible places. They arent humans and shouldnt be treat as such.

YouMustBeTheWeasleys · 01/01/2025 21:21

@Ritasueandbobtoo9

Thank you! People like @Tara336 have the absolute audacity to think their right to comfort from their animal trumps another persons right to comfort from not being exposed to an allergen. Because of this they downplay the severity of pet allergies as something you can just get on with, with an antihistamine like hay fever. In reality if I spend an extended amount of time in a doggy space it can make me unwell for several days and the antihistamines don’t really touch the sides - fatigue, wheezing, breathlessness and a general “fug” feeling that can’t be explained any other way. For people with allergies the dogs create a a
literally suffocating atmosphere that cannot be fixed simply by hoovering up a bit of dog hair as it is the saliva and skin cells that cause a lot of the problems - it is also why the idea of a hypoallergenic dog is a nonsense.

What an absolutely disgusting attitude.

YeOldeGreyhound · 01/01/2025 21:18

Meltedwelly · 01/01/2025 21:07

Because animals dont really belong where people socialise, whether that be a shopping mall, supermarket, restaurant or pub. People can walk them outside or live with them, they dont need taking to public indoor areas.

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So, are dogs just meant to stay at home, and never experience other places?
The dogs you see in pubs etc, are well behaved there because they were brought up going to those places, and are used to them.
Guide dogs also have to go to a variety of places so they are used to them.

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Fridgemanageress · 01/01/2025 21:09

ExpressCheckout · 01/01/2025 09:51

Personally, I'd prefer a well-behaved dog over a badly behaved child.

I think most people will agree with you on that 🤣

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