To think dogs shouldn't be in pubs?

I'm allergic and live in a rural area that welcomes dogs everywhere. People get very aggressive and downright rude about the rights of dogs to be allowed everywhere.
I don't eat out now as I can't last a whole meal before my throat swelling or my eyes streaming.
I don't know why there can't be a non dog area in restaurants and cafes. Surely that would be catering to everyone rather than a blanket "dogs should be everywhere and if you don't agree then fuck you" approach!

YABU, although I personally wouldn't take my dog out on NYE as she would hate it.

I imagine people might bring their dogs out on NYE because of fireworks maybe.

Yes I hate it
Stinky smelly dirty dogs

Couldn't agree more! Parents who hiring them along and ignore them whilst they get hammered - the worst

The dads who have their kids for weekend and spend it all down the pub. Poor kids

The issue is that some people don't seem to realise if their dog may be one of the unsuitable ones.

Ding, ding, ding

Dogs have pretty much always been allowed in pubs.

I disagree that it's a new thing really. Due to circumstances I haven't been in a position to have a dog over the last decade but back when I did it wasn't unusual to find pubs and cafes that welcomed them in. The difference now is the amount of people who have them since Covid and because it's become a statement for a lot of people, and because so many people take them everywhere, regardless of necessity or suitability.

I only took my dog in places like that when we were on holiday or on a big day trip, and if he hadn't been laid back I wouldn't have even done that. Now people won't seem to leave them for a couple of hours to go to the local and don't seem to bother about training.

I love dogs and seeing them out and about now I can't have my own but if they're stressed and growling they don't want to be there and shouldn't be.

YABU as most pubs have always allowed dogs in. We are taking our dog for a walk this morning and plan to stop in a pub for lunch. He's well behaved and will sit under our table.

Our favourite pub allows dogs in the bar area but not in the restaurant part which seems fair enough.

If we're just going out for a meal we leave the dog behind. However, we don't leave him alone on November 05th or on NYE as he is terrified of the fireworks. We don't go to pubs and restaurants on NYE but wouldn't blame a dog owner for taking their dog with them.

Yabvu

They are family members. Sounds like the issue here is badly trained ones - that applies to arsehole parents who let their kids run wild too. Problem is with the owners

Far better than children in pubs.

I agree.

The issue is that some people don't seem to realise if their dog may be one of the unsuitable ones.

We have a local pub that bans kids but welcomes dogs.

Dogs have always been allowed in pubs.

No they haven’t (family of publicans and first started working in them myself 35 years ago)

YANBU op. And I say that as a dog owner and dog lover. The new breed of owners who can’t leave their dogs at home for an hour baffle me. They even drive them to the retail park to take them shopping, just why? Baffling.

Dogs have been allowed in country pubs forever, but there does seem to have been a rise in not well trained / badly behaved dogs, which I don’t particularly like sharing space with.

YANBU to object to this

A couple of the dogs were growling at each other and owners were having to drag them apart.

one or both of the owners should have left and taken their dog(s) home if they can’t behave around other dogs

YANBU - dogs are a darned nuisance in eating places. If every owner kept their dog under control and off the tables (yes the other day there was one scrabbling around on the table!) then it might be different - but they don't. Of course dogs are animals and pubs/cafes etc. are an alien environment for them so it is not entirely fair on them either.

I was in one pub where there was a vicious breed that the owner could barely hold - every time anyone tried to get to the toilet they had to go past it and its hackles would rise and it would growl with bared teeth and strain at its leash and the owner would be struggling to keep it away from the other customers.

No - just no. Say no to them all then the vicious ill-behaved ones are definitely covered.

Pubs, cafes, restaurants there is nowhere dog free now. I don't know why people can't leave their dog at home when going out for a meal. It's unhygenic if nothing else.
A cafe I used to go to has often more dogs than people. You will have dogs at the table in front and behind. Last time I went there were two dogs at the next table that barked throughout the hour we were there.

Pubs have been dog friendly for generations, so dogs in a pub isn’t a surprise, if you don’t like dogs you need to choose pubs that don’t let dogs in.

But dogs have always been welcome in pubs. Why does that have to change to suit a moaning few?
My only problem is people taking unsuitable dogs out to pubs. Snappy or smelly ones for example. I wouldn’t take all of my dogs but the majority are lovely pub dogs and if I’ve only got one with me and we’re on a walk then I’ll usually pop in for a drink and some crisps.

My parents dog is very anxious and they take it with them to pubs, cafes etc. Tbf it's very well behaved and just lies on his blanket.

I haven't ever taken my dogs to pubs and cafes myself. Unfortunately it means they aren't used to the environment so now they wouldn't be able to go. I don't think they would sit still and would find it overwhelming. They would want to say hi to everyone 🙈.

On the upside they are fine being left at home.

All dogs are different and very complex. I don't think people should take unfriendly dogs to pubs and cafes etc. I don't mind them being in the environment if they are friendly and sociable.

Having worked as bar staff, YANBU.

As a third of UK families have dogs, it makes commercial sense to allow people to bring dogs to pubs.

I regularly do a dog walk with a pub stop at some point, and from my experience the majority of people like well behaved dogs in pubs.

I put my dog on a "rigorous training programme", from a puppy so he would be used to pubs, and it's paid off.

However, I hate seeing large aggressive looking "meat monsters" in my local, especially if they are off the lead, that I think is unreasonable.

their dogs are pretty chilled and just lie there.

Yes, many times I’ve not even noticed a dog because they are so still & quiet but that has changed. However OP you will get lots of replies about noisy dc & how everyone’s dog is perfectly behaved.

YANBU and I say this as a dog lover. Why are dogs EVERYWHERE these days? Seriously ridiculous entitled behaviour. I love dogs but have a young child who is scared of them. This fear was actually increased by an idiot owner taking their darling dog out shopping and it attempting to go for my then 2 year old daughter!

Peolle saying go somewhere that doesn't allow them/sit away from them need to realise you'd never leave the house if you avoided all dog accepting places. Also it's not easy to avoid sitting near them in restaurants etc. We've often had to put up with it as it's the only table left. Just leave the dog at home it is a DOG not a child FFS.

Ah, first dog moaning post of the new year 😂

Dogs have always been welcome in most pubs, especially the more traditional/rural types. I love that I can take my girl on a nice walk somewhere, and end it with a drink and food in a pub. She is very well behaved (better behaved than a lot of kids we encounter), and just quietly snoozes under the table. She is rather partial to a snack or 2 if the pub has them (which a lot of the pubs we visit do).

If you want dog-free, I believe Wetherspoons can cater for you!