To think dogs shouldn't be in pubs?

I’m in my sixties and dogs have been in pubs since I was a child.

It isn’t new at all, don’t be silly.

The point is @RightOnTheEdge I find dogs less intrusive than crying kids. I'm making a comparison. That's one way to be critical. It's a method often used in essays!

I think pubs are fine.

I remember even as a child, people bringing their dogs in with them.

Most pubs also have a resident dog.

The dogs must be well behaved though and the music/environment not too loud for them.

I am very against dogs being taken shopping and into cafes etc though.

Not only is it annoying but I’ve often seen dogs looking very distressed and it’s so unfair.

Don't think we should be banning anyone/thing based on personal anecdotes that exist for either case.
I remember one pub I went to a pub and a dog was going from table to table putting its head on people's lap and licking people's legs while the owner was outside smoking. When she came back in she got mad at the people for touching her dog without asking 🙄
Another time I was in a pub that served food and a couple were having a photoshoot with the dogs positioning them in the booth at the table as if they were eating. They were lacking the table and their plates.

I've also seen adults vomiting jn their sleep in the middle of a pub.

Doesn't mean I think dogs or adults (or kids for that matter) should be banned. we can find anecdotes for crap behaviour from lots of different people/animals and banning anyone based on personal anecdotes is silly.

Here we go again.

The owners of our local would rather have dogs in than kids.

YABU, are you bored OP? Looking to bitch, sling some mud at others in a group mean girl setting! It’s either a dog hating thread or one against the smokers or a good old weight loss jab one, they always get the most people to REALLY throw hatred at others, first new dog hating thread of 2025 🍿

A pub is one of the more suitable places to take a dog surely. I agree with others there have always been dogs in pubs in the rural places I grew up.

My dog is big and sometimes reactive so unsuitable for taking out and about to pubs so he usually stays at home.

I will take him to sit outside a pub or cafe if we've been on a long walk but I would never take him to a town centre or into shops as he would be stressed and unhappy and so would I. He's a rural living kind of dog.

OTOH people have small companion lap dogs which often have separation anxiety when left alone as that is not their function and I don't see a huge issue with a dog like that being taken around cafes and shops if they don't mind it and are not a nuisance

Absolutely, they are very discerning

Every thread about dogs just turns into endless posters saying they'd rather dogs than kids 🙄
What have kids got to do with the OP?
If rather have a well behaved kid than a loud obnoxious adult 🤷 what's your point?

You post works equally well if you replace dog with child

Why are the dog fans here only comparing badly behaved children with 'perfect' dogs?
I've seen bloody awful behaviour from kids in pubs but I've also seen bloody awful behaviour from dogs in pubs. The common feature is that the responsible adults think their child or their dog can do no wrong.
I've also seen well behaved children in pubs, and dogs who sleep under the table of their owners. No problem with either of those as the adults are respecting other people around them.

When I was a kid, dogs were in pubs and kids were outside with a bag of crisps and a bottle of pop.
Then suddenly dogs not allowed in pubs but kids were.
Now it’s all in.
Massive generalisations there but some truth.

I prefer dogs to people taking their toddlers to bars and pubs. There are times I just want to go for a drink with my husband to a little wine bar but it's turned into a crèche these days. I would settle for a little terrier on the floor any day!

Dogs have always been allowed in pubs, but the issue is that there are more dogs than ever before and they are allowed in more places than ever before.

I am so so sick and tired of so many dogs in cafes and shops and pubs and offices. Yesterday, there was a dog in our local library, which I found beyond ridiculous.

It makes me a little sad, because I used to love dogs and have owned them, but to not be able to go to cafe or library or to bloody work without sharing your space with so many of them is making me thoroughly dislike them.

Dogs have always been welcomed in most pubs and I have no problem with that. I love dogs and I'm a dog owner. But I do agree that people are taking their dogs everywhere now, into shops, supermarkets etc and I don't like that tbh.
I instinctively don't take my dog shopping as I grew up at a time when no one took their dog to the shops. But the pub, I would take her if she wasn't such a greedy bugger and begging everyone for food!! Because of that I leave her at home!

This

Bollocks. There's always been dogs in pubs. Just people couldn't moan on the internet. I'm not being banished to a pub garden if I fancy a drink after a walk with the dog.

That is vile! I bet the parents didn't batter an eyelid either! Poor kid is being dragged up, rather than brought up 😠

I don’t think the dog/ no dog debate will ever be resolved.

I don’t think that dogs make everything better, but that’s my own opinion and clearly not one that others share. The primary issue is owners who either don’t control their dogs, owners who treat their dogs like a version of humans and owners who don’t understand that everyone loves animals as much as they do.

The comparison between dogs and children clouds the issue. Children can be badly behaved and we expect their parents to address that. Dogs can be badly behaved and we expect their owners to address that too. The difficulty arises when they don’t. I’m not aware of anyone being allergic to children, but some people are allergic to dog hair and being in the vicinity of dogs makes them unwell.

I don’t want to eat in a restaurant where dogs are nearby, but if that’s the policy of the restaurant, I can choose to put up with it or leave. Which isn’t easy if you’re halfway through a meal when the dog arrives. This is the situation we have though and we have to find a way to accommodate people who wish to take their dogs everywhere with them and people who don’t wish to see them everywhere.

Most of the pubs around by us (rural wales) wouldn't survive without dog walkers popping in.

They're better behaved than a lot of humans.

I love going for a long dog walk and then popping in for a couple of pints

Pubs have always had dogs in them. Lots of them had dogs that lived there when I was growing up and would greet all the drinkers. If you don't want dogs around then drink in the many bars that don't let them in.

Thats kind of a silly comparison. I think most would prefer well behaved anything over badly behaved anything. I'd personally prefer a well behaved child over a well behaved dog and I'd rather neither a badly behaved child or dog.
For what it's worth I think the problem in either case is the adult/parent when they're not doing their duty and ignoring either child/dog which I've experienced more and more the past few years.
I don't mind a dog just chilling there but dogs growling at each other and putting their heads on the tables etc I'd rather avoid.

I've shared this story before.

DH and I were in our local pub. We live rurally - it is a pretty country pub with a good sized garden. Sunny day. Everyone outside enjoying the weather. DDog was asleep by our feet. A child, who has just been removed from the chicken run by the landlord (as they weren't allowed in there and had been terrorising the hens) came over to our dog and spat on her.

I know who I think should be banned from pubs.

Yes and quite frankly not fun for the kids either...it's like parents don't know where to take them and put their own needs above the kids...plenty of places that don't cost any money they can burn off steam

Bore off