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Didn’t realise my mates wouldn’t take their wailing kid out…. defriend?

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Newstart2024 · 01/01/2025 09:31

I have a group of parent friends from maternity leave with my kids…
Sort of a recipe for disaster but yesterday we had planned a 3:30pm cinema trip to see Moana 2 with the kids and a 5pm pizza and express/early new years.

My parent friends have young children as do I but I left Dad and our 1 year old home, took my 4 and 6 year old who I knew would do okay through a film or if not take them out….
Sat next to a friend and her just 4 year old and for 20 minutes halfway through the film he was crying/wailing. After a few minutes I said “why don’t you take him to the lobby” there’s seats and it’s quieter there but she just kept saying to him “we can’t leave.” And Shushing him! Her husband was there and they have another older child, but one parent could go out and one parent could stay surely?
People started staring and I was cringing so hard!
Finally after 20 minutes her partner got up and took the little kid out. Not least he was clearly tired/upset and not enjoying it?!!
I didn’t realise my friend would be the be the type to sit there with a wailing child and not leave. It totally ruined the trip!

Then after in pizza express my husband and 1 year old joined us and another friends 4 year old boy is basically obsessed with her and at some point, despite us on our guard against it (which isn’t relaxing) and even his own parents warning and watching him he tries and sometimes succeeds at whacking her on the head. Which he did last night whilst I was sorting out my own kids food and dropped my guard for a second…..
I don’t know why, he always gets told off but he always does it!
AIBU just to keep it to chats and the odd at home play date?
(Granted cinema and pizza express never going to be easy but felt like those two things potentially avoidable and sitting next to a crying child was mortifying!)

OP posts:
Whoooaaa · 01/01/2025 11:17

Avoid at all costs.

accentdusoleil · 01/01/2025 11:15

I'd check in with the mum of the wailing child. Sounds like she's had a tough time . She might need some support from you

Newstart2024 · 01/01/2025 11:14

Easipeelerie · 01/01/2025 11:04

When the mum said she couldn’t leave, what did she mean by that? Sounds like some rigidity on her part.

I think because we had a meal booked after so that’s when I said “you could take him outside to the lobby bit.” But then we had another 15 minutes of crying anyway.

Maybe she thought if they left they’d have to go home and miss the meal?! In the end he was fine in the lobby waiting for us to come out it was much quieter there.

OP posts:
ShesNotACowShesAFox · 01/01/2025 11:12

I wish I’d ditched my Bad Parent mates quicker. It only ends in disaster if you persist in spending time with people who don’t have a handle on their kids and let them be badly behaved so YANBU

Newstart2024 · 01/01/2025 11:11

Anothercoffeeafter3 · 01/01/2025 11:06

The hard things is if she leaves it's teaching the kid that if he cries he gets what he wants. DS is older now so if we want to see a kids film we book a late showing as I expect the earlier ones to be full of fidgety young kids. I would just let it go and maybe meet up at soft play or similar in future.

No not at all teaching him he get what he wants… it’s absolutely just being considerate to others to leave.
He was mostly crying because it was too loud for him…plus he seemed tired… he was not being a brat at all, he was being an overwhelmed child and his parents should have been attentive to it and considerate of others.

OP posts:
PierceMorgansChin · 01/01/2025 11:09

LuHolyoake · 01/01/2025 10:33

I think you're being OTT but if you don't want to be friends, then don't be friends. I hope she has some support from people that are kinder than you.

She is being kind to her baby who was hit on the head, and not for the first time it seems. Hope OP find some kinder friends who would consider not allowing their children to hurt the baby

Sunshine1500 · 01/01/2025 11:09

With so many young children this is normal. Especially when they’re out of routine over Christmas and New Year.

Anothercoffeeafter3 · 01/01/2025 11:06

The hard things is if she leaves it's teaching the kid that if he cries he gets what he wants. DS is older now so if we want to see a kids film we book a late showing as I expect the earlier ones to be full of fidgety young kids. I would just let it go and maybe meet up at soft play or similar in future.

PierceMorgansChin · 01/01/2025 11:06

Pandasnacks · 01/01/2025 10:30

It does when you blame the child. OP said both she and the parents were trying, I wouldn’t ditch my friends over that I’d just choose different activities to do. Nobody is a perfect parent

Have we read different thread? OP said she was surprised by how permissive her friends were and how the allowed poor behaviour. I wouldn't ditch the friends but I would not do kids outings no more

ThisIsSockward · 01/01/2025 11:06

I wonder why they 'couldn't' take the crying child out of the cinema (until they could)—didn't want to lose out on the money spent on the tickets?

But anyway, of course it's not unreasonable to adjust your personal rules for where to se your friends. Some people (and their children) are fine for some outings, but miserable on others. If they're no longer fun under any circumstances, cut back on them altogether! Maybe give them a break and see if they're any better after they've grown out of that particular phase.

Easipeelerie · 01/01/2025 11:04

When the mum said she couldn’t leave, what did she mean by that? Sounds like some rigidity on her part.

PierceMorgansChin · 01/01/2025 11:03

Tia86 · 01/01/2025 10:46

If you know they struggle to sit still, why did you plan on a cinema outing followed by a restaurant?
I agree there is an element of parents should have intervened sooner, taken child out of the cinema but I think this was a badly planned outing by all. Who suggested it?

The outing wasn't the problem, it was other parents allowing bratty behaviour. You seem very eager to put the blame on OP

Ihadenough22 · 01/01/2025 11:02

I see and know some parents that think their kids are perfect. The word no is never said to them. They are never corrected. The parents seem to think it's fine that they are let cry at the cinema or in public and never take them out of this event. They hit other kids or are always crying when they don't get their way. They are fighting with other kid's or are mean to other kids always.
One of my friends has a young son with autism and they are corrected if they misbehave. At times they get overwhelmed and the parents will take them away from the situation when this happens. My friends meanwhile know a couple with a child of the same age. This child is waiting for a diagnosis but is a nightmare. He hits other kids, is mean to them and crys when he does not get his way. The parents in his class won't have him at their kids birthdays because of his behaviour and the parents letting him away with this. They also have a problem keeping a babysitter because of his behaviour and him hitting them.

My friend child meanwhile has plenty of friends and is invited to all the other birthday parties.
I told my friend to put a bit of distance between them and these parents and child because of the child's behaviour and the parents doing nothing about it. The reality is that be ignoring the issues they are just making him worse. I don't want my friends child losing friends because they continue to invite this child.

PierceMorgansChin · 01/01/2025 10:58

mollymazda · 01/01/2025 10:33

i wish my kids were as perfect as OP's... and that i was as perfect a parent as OP clearly is.

What is stopping you?

DaniMontyRae · 01/01/2025 10:53

LuHolyoake · 01/01/2025 10:33

I think you're being OTT but if you don't want to be friends, then don't be friends. I hope she has some support from people that are kinder than you.

What support do you think she and her husband need? They had a child having a tantrum which is not uncommon in 4 year olds but chose not to remove him from the cinema screen. They thought it was better to ruin a (rather expensive) experience for everyone in the screen rather than take their child outside. They shouldn't need support and handholding for such basic levels of parenting.

Newstart2024 · 01/01/2025 10:50

Tia86 · 01/01/2025 10:46

If you know they struggle to sit still, why did you plan on a cinema outing followed by a restaurant?
I agree there is an element of parents should have intervened sooner, taken child out of the cinema but I think this was a badly planned outing by all. Who suggested it?

Different boy different situation. The whacking boy is fine in front of a film and wasn’t the one crying but he won’t sit at a meal he just gets up around our table though. Luckily he doesn’t run off.

We all took our older ones last year 5+ and it was fine. This year some of our youngest ones turned 4+ so we brought them too, obviously it didn’t work out behavior wise but that’s when I thought people would be aware and just take their kids out to stop ruining it for others.

OP posts:
CutThroughLane · 01/01/2025 10:50

The film thing is irritating, she is a bit pathetic not taking the child out but that would wash over me,

I wouldn’t be exposing my baby to the child who attacks her, that’s it. As sad as it is you do not need to sacrifice your own child’s well being and safety because of another child. Only hits smaller children and not ones his own size, it’s either he has zero understanding or he picks on small ones as it’s easier isn’t it.

JMSA · 01/01/2025 10:50

If I were to defriend because of this, it would be because I wasn't bothered about the friendship one way or another. Or perhaps didn't like them much.
But the 'one strike and you're out' approach seems bizarre to me.

Newstart2024 · 01/01/2025 10:47

mollymazda · 01/01/2025 10:33

i wish my kids were as perfect as OP's... and that i was as perfect a parent as OP clearly is.

Not that well behaved but I didn’t bring the 1 year old for a reason… she wouldn’t settle. And my own 4 year old put her feet on the seat in front so I tapped her on the shoulder and told her to put her feet down (I wouldn’t like some kids shoes on the back of my seat).

It wasn’t about the kid being a good or bad kid it’s about the consideration of the parents to others in the cinema. My friend is usually considerate and also can be quite judgey about others parenting even so it was out of the blue.

Anyway think a previous poster said you tend to fall into friends with people who have the same parenting style and I think that’s true!
My parents just didn’t push their luck with us in public places and I’m pretty much the same, can’t understand those who aren’t.

OP posts:
Tia86 · 01/01/2025 10:46

Newstart2024 · 01/01/2025 10:37

My baby was in a high chair, he was running around the table and can’t sit down for more than 2 minutes. This is where I say it’s hard not to be sympathetic as obviously something going on with him beyond the normal things you’d hope to have to parent… but I can’t relax knowing for some reason my little one always seems to be on the receiving end. It’s tricky to basically say we won’t be joining them anymore as he always hurts my child :(

If you know they struggle to sit still, why did you plan on a cinema outing followed by a restaurant?
I agree there is an element of parents should have intervened sooner, taken child out of the cinema but I think this was a badly planned outing by all. Who suggested it?

PierceMorgansChin · 01/01/2025 10:44

Kids will be kids but it's up to parents to intervene. Like one poster has said, I noticed myself gravitating toward other parents with similar parenting style. When my daughter misbehaved when out she would get a warning, a break outside of the venue and if that didn't work straight home. Hitting, snatching toys, breaking toys meant playdate over. I had one of my friends at my house with her 4 year old boy ripping her toys to pieces. I sat there curiously waiting for her to say something, she never did, so I steeped in and just took the toy away. Next time she asked to meet I said fine, but no kids. Life is too short to put up with other people's spoiled brats OP. Find new friends to do outings with

LuHolyoake · 01/01/2025 10:43

oakleaffy · 01/01/2025 10:38

People need to actively parent .
A screeching child needs removing from
a cinema.
People don’t pay to listen to a grizzly kid for 20 minutes.

But the child was taken out. From the op sounds like the parent tried a few things before taking them out when that wasn't working. Maybe they've misjudged the timings slightly.

For an afternoon showing of a children's film I don't think I'd be expecting silence all the way through.

I highly doubt it was 20 minutes of constant crying anyway.

stayathomer · 01/01/2025 10:41

Sorry op but while they weren’t great not being friends because you don’t like the way to reacted to things going sideways is ridiculous- you’ll have no friends within a year!!!

snowmichael · 01/01/2025 10:38

Not necessarily a need to defriend, but certainly don't go on any more e.g. cinema trips with them

oakleaffy · 01/01/2025 10:38

mollymazda · 01/01/2025 10:33

i wish my kids were as perfect as OP's... and that i was as perfect a parent as OP clearly is.

People need to actively parent .
A screeching child needs removing from
a cinema.
People don’t pay to listen to a grizzly kid for 20 minutes.

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