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To complain about a GP calling me this?

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lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

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SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 01:00

@MumblesParty I'm not ignoring you in the slightest and you'll see that I agreed with you that these "admin sessions" will be taking place. But the OP putting in her complaint isn't going to be drawing a GP away from time that otherwise would be allocated to appointments. It's already allocated to admin. I hope as a GP you're not suggesting that patients must not make complaints because they are wasting precious GP time if they do.

Growlybear83 · 01/01/2025 00:56

Good grief! Is there anything that people on Mumsnet don't find offensive?!

Thoughtsonallsorts · 01/01/2025 00:55

To all GPs I urge you to never be afraid to speak to patients as you would to your family. If the expression good girl is something you feel don't hold back. This thread is diabolical

Footnote to patients: Stop wasting a Doctors time with woke rubbish when they are simply trying to save your life.

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:54

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:50

It's also a simple fact that those "admin sessions" will be happening regardless of whether or not the OP puts in an official complaint. It's absurd to suggest that making a complaint is inappropriate because it actively removes GPs from patient appointments.

@SilenceInside OK whatever. GP. 30 years experience. Ignore me.

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:50

It's also a simple fact that those "admin sessions" will be happening regardless of whether or not the OP puts in an official complaint. It's absurd to suggest that making a complaint is inappropriate because it actively removes GPs from patient appointments.

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:46

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:42

Oh these posts trying to shame the Op for supposedly wasting the time of GPs! Ridiculous to suggest that patients won't get appointments because GPs are too busy dealing with complaints.

@SilenceInside its one of the many bureaucratic tasks that has become a lot more onerous than when I started as a GP 30 years ago. Not necessarily because there are more complaints (although there probably are) but because litigation risks and expectations have changed, and greater engagement is expected. When I started we spent all our time seeing patients. Now we have to have “admin sessions” instead of surgeries in which to keep on top of tasks such as complaints. Whether or not this takes away time for appointments is not a matter of debate. It’s a simple fact.

Snowpatrolling · 01/01/2025 00:46

I’ve accidentally said this a few times to the people I care for, total accident and I was trying to be encouraging in a difficult situation!
no one’s ever complained about me for saying it tho.

MerrilyOnhigh · 01/01/2025 00:45

Addictedtohotbaths · 01/01/2025 00:37

Totally gross inappropriate language, I’d feel sick.

I expect that you will get those who make light of your experience haven’t experienced being assaulted by a person in a position of power.

Honestly, if you equate this to an assault, you are really minimising the seriousness of assaults.

MerrilyOnhigh · 01/01/2025 00:44

lolit · 31/12/2024 22:04

Is it harmless if it made me extremely uncomfortable as a young woman do be told that by an older man in a vulnerable moment?

Why? Did you seriously believe that he meant it in an abusive sense? If so, why?

Thoughtsonallsorts · 01/01/2025 00:44

Can I please have this GP

What a load of nonsense.
Please don't dare accuse a highly trained & hard working GP be misconstrued in this way for a sympathetic approach to caring.

StarDolphins · 01/01/2025 00:42

It depends on your threshold. I don’t mind if I’m called a girl or a woman tbh, doesn’t bother me one bit but I do t know what your complaint would be?

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 00:42

Oh these posts trying to shame the Op for supposedly wasting the time of GPs! Ridiculous to suggest that patients won't get appointments because GPs are too busy dealing with complaints.

MumblesParty · 01/01/2025 00:40

OP it doesn’t sound great, and by all means complain of you feel it upset you, but bear in mind that in the time it takes for the complaint to be read, discussed by all the partners, and responded to, about 30 patients could have been seen. One of the reasons it’s hard to get appointments these days is because of the increased time spent on bureaucratic work, leading to less time for seeing patients.

KilkennyCats · 01/01/2025 00:38

Addictedtohotbaths · 01/01/2025 00:37

Totally gross inappropriate language, I’d feel sick.

I expect that you will get those who make light of your experience haven’t experienced being assaulted by a person in a position of power.

Op hasn’t experienced this either.

Addictedtohotbaths · 01/01/2025 00:37

Totally gross inappropriate language, I’d feel sick.

I expect that you will get those who make light of your experience haven’t experienced being assaulted by a person in a position of power.

AdventFridgeOfShame · 01/01/2025 00:34

I think the issue here is OP found herself feeling vulnerable during the examination and there seems to have not been a chaperone.
Does this surgery not use chaperones or was the examination not deemed chaperone worthy.

To complain effectively OP needs to decide the outcome she requires, a female HCP in future or a chaperone at all appointments.

The language may well have been inappropriate but without detail we will never know.

Alphabetsoups · 01/01/2025 00:34

lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

Goodness me. What a thing to worry about. If that's the most serious thing you have on your mind, I hope you have the sense to count yourself very very lucky.

MidnightMusing5 · 01/01/2025 00:33

Was he really old? If he was, then you are being unreasonable .

ive called people lovely by mistake just because im so used to calling my kids jt(!) can’t say anything these days without someone taking offence(!)
are you middle aged by any chance?

Aspargar · 01/01/2025 00:22

Surely there’d be a female chaperone if it was a male gp? I’ve always had this if it’s been a male. For their protection as much as for the patient I assume.

Was there OP?

Totallymessed · 01/01/2025 00:17

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:55

@Totallymessed Really? You think a doctor doing a prostate examination or other intimate examination would call the man a good lad? I mean: doctor has his latex gloves on and his finger up the man's arse.... and calls him a good boy?

That's not how I'm reading OP's post. From what OP is saying, it sounds as if she has taken offence to the use of the word "girl" in and of itself, rather than the use of "girl" with specific timing in relation to a particular type of examination.

I dislike being called "lad" because I have a dislike for "lad culture," but I would not care if a doctor called me "good lad" (because there are more important things being discussed) and I would not submit a complaint because I have more serious battles to fight.

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I'm sure you do have more important battles to fight. But the two scenarios are completely different.

TheWalkingEyebag · 01/01/2025 00:15

I am surprised at the number of people saying to get over it. Making that comment during an examination, when you were in a vulnerable position, was very inappropriate. I absolutely think it justifies a complaint, even if it’s simply to make him aware of how his words and actions can affect his patients.

Bellyblueboy · 31/12/2024 23:56

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:48

@Bellyblueboy I had a doctor outright call me "fat." Judging by the responses in this thread, some people would have collapsed on the floor if they heard that. But I have had a different upbringing, so my thought was "well yes, I am indeed fat, so what he's saying is correct."

Most medical professionals would use more precise terminology. But when I was obese I wouldn’t have been offended if my doctor called me fat. I would just be worried that they thought my vocabulary didn’t stretch to overweight or obese😊.

I have a brilliant GP - who I do t see very often but who is very direct and professional. He did tell me I was overweight when I was, and calculated my BMI. He didn’t say fat he said overweight and on the cusp
of obese. To me that was more frightening that slang.

Totallymessed · 31/12/2024 23:56

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 23:10

Why didn’t you say it to his face, op, instead of hiding behind an arms length complaint?
You still haven’t explained what sort of “vulnerable position” you were in that precluded this.

What a dreadful thing to say- if someone doesn't say they are uncomfortable at the time they are in the wrong and possibly lying? Hope you are nowhere near any kind of safeguarding responsibilities.

Catfox1 · 31/12/2024 23:56

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:46

@Catfox1 To me it reads as though the OP thought it was a sexual advance (may not be the right term but that’s how it’s coming across) in which case a complaint would be justified.

Yes, men in clubs and on dating apps always make sexual advances by starting the conversation with "good girl." It has a positive effect every time.

As with most things, context is important. Good girl in a creepy voice stroking a leg for example, yeah complain. OP has said she felt uncomfortable and in the absence of any detail I can only assume something similar happened.

shuggles · 31/12/2024 23:55

@Totallymessed Really? You think a doctor doing a prostate examination or other intimate examination would call the man a good lad? I mean: doctor has his latex gloves on and his finger up the man's arse.... and calls him a good boy?

That's not how I'm reading OP's post. From what OP is saying, it sounds as if she has taken offence to the use of the word "girl" in and of itself, rather than the use of "girl" with specific timing in relation to a particular type of examination.

I dislike being called "lad" because I have a dislike for "lad culture," but I would not care if a doctor called me "good lad" (because there are more important things being discussed) and I would not submit a complaint because I have more serious battles to fight.