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To complain about a GP calling me this?

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lolit · 31/12/2024 21:37

He called me a good girl while examining me. Should I complain or am I overreacting?

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surreygirl1987 · 31/12/2024 22:55

ttcat37 · 31/12/2024 22:48

Did you miss that the doctor (not vet) said ‘good girl’ (to an adult human, not a dog) in a sexual way? Whilst examining her?

Why do some women make excuses for men and try to rationalise their misogynistic behaviour?

I honestly have no idea, and I find it really baffling.

Bellyblueboy · 31/12/2024 22:55

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 22:54

Well of course op claims it was said in a sexual way.

And women cry rape all the time. And we should give pedophibes the benefit of the doubt? Because these accusations can impact on men - and we wouldn’t want that!

RainbowSquare · 31/12/2024 22:55

Bellyblueboy · 31/12/2024 22:52

For him to understand this is inappropriate and stop?

He's probably a partner i.e. owner so he's judge and jury. He's not going to change the habit of a lifetime is he.

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 22:54

ttcat37 · 31/12/2024 22:51

… but this was a male GP. During an examination. Said in a sexual way. Surely you understand the difference?

Well of course op claims it was said in a sexual way.

Bellyblueboy · 31/12/2024 22:52

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 31/12/2024 22:52

What do you want? Have him struck off? Admonished?

For him to understand this is inappropriate and stop?

Cherrysherbet · 31/12/2024 22:52

Eww that’s not ok.
That would really make me feel uneasy in that situation.
YANBU

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 31/12/2024 22:52

What do you want? Have him struck off? Admonished?

GoadyMcBigot · 31/12/2024 22:52

lolit · 31/12/2024 22:40

Be careful, you'll sprain a wrist with all that reaching

OP - youre making vague statements and when repeatedly asked for context / clarification you’re just adding more layers of ambiguity

so my conclusion is that this “reaching” is exactly what you’re looking for.

either give necessary details or a. Wor you’re going to get a whole range of scenarios envisaged.

ttcat37 · 31/12/2024 22:51

YellowPixie · 31/12/2024 22:47

This time last year my (female) GP said I was a good girl and offered me a sticker for bringing my cholesterol down. It was funny, not offensive.

… but this was a male GP. During an examination. Said in a sexual way. Surely you understand the difference?

Franjipanl8r · 31/12/2024 22:49

A relative of mine in NHS management always welcomes complaints. Without them, it’s really difficult to sack crap or dangerous staff. If he’s been creepy to you, he’ll have been creepy to other patients and probably other staff as well.

Mooshroo · 31/12/2024 22:49

Mooshroo · 31/12/2024 22:37

This comment has reminded me that good girl can actually be sexual harassment in the workplace albeit that specific judgment did have additional details such as social media photos or something along those lines. I’d have to look it up.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/calling-women-good-girl-workplace-26686881.amp

for those interested

Calling women "good girl" in the workplace is sexual harassment, judge rules

A tribunal found in favour of Frances Fricker who raised a complaint when her male boss continuously called her "good girl" as well as calling her fat in photos and making advances

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/calling-women-good-girl-workplace-26686881.amp

Cheesyfootballs01 · 31/12/2024 22:49

OP you said it was an examination and he smiled and said good girl in a sexual way?

I am assuming that it was maybe a smear or you were in a state of undress - you obviously feel uncomfortable and upset that you made a thread about it so you should report it to the practice manager.

Just to say that you can ask the Surgery to put a note on your file that you only want to see female practitioners in future ( or at least you can at my Surgery) or if they won’t do that always request a chaperone at any future appointments.

BananaSpanner · 31/12/2024 22:49

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 22:47

How exactly were you in a vulnerable position, op?
If it was an intimate examination you’d have had a chaperone in the room, surely?
Are you trying to suggest you felt he might attack you?!

She won’t say. She’s come on a forum to ask opinions on whether to make a complaint about a medical professional without giving the most important bit of context.

valentinka31 · 31/12/2024 22:49

hang on - catching up here. So am I right about this:

An older male GP, old enough to be your father, was giving you an intimate physical examination, and said to you 'good girl'?

??????

what the actual ...

It is not patronising. It is totally sexual. It is what guys say to women when the woman is being compliant sexually. It can be a turn-on between two perfectly happily consenting people in a sexual context. But for a male GP to say that to a female patient is super creepy, in my humble o.

I personally wouldn't complain, though, as there is a slim chance he didn't know it was bad, if he's pretty old/has led a closeted life.

But I so very much would not be going to him again.

ColourBlueColourPurple · 31/12/2024 22:49

No wonder people are leaving healthcare professions in droves. It wouldn't even occur to me to make a complaint about this.

ttcat37 · 31/12/2024 22:48

DontshootmyRaptors · 31/12/2024 22:33

It’s not a phrase it’s a term. It’s also often used by dog owners and vets. Maybe he drifted off and was thinking about walking his dog. Less dramatic. Less creepy.

Did you miss that the doctor (not vet) said ‘good girl’ (to an adult human, not a dog) in a sexual way? Whilst examining her?

Why do some women make excuses for men and try to rationalise their misogynistic behaviour?

YellowPixie · 31/12/2024 22:47

This time last year my (female) GP said I was a good girl and offered me a sticker for bringing my cholesterol down. It was funny, not offensive.

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 22:47

How exactly were you in a vulnerable position, op?
If it was an intimate examination you’d have had a chaperone in the room, surely?
Are you trying to suggest you felt he might attack you?!

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 22:45

ThatKhakiMoose · 31/12/2024 22:00

Ugh, that's absolutely gross and completely unacceptable. "Good girl" is a phrase form the dom/sub dynamic of the kink community. I bet he's into kink and secretly got off on saying that, knowing you probably wouldn't pick up on it. A thousand times yuck.

Oh, give over 🙄

ForsterMcLennan · 31/12/2024 22:42

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 31/12/2024 22:33

You shouldve said something at the time, youre now churning it over abd its getting bigger. At my surgery GPs always ask for a chaperone - didnt yours

You don’t request a chaperone in case the GP says something weird! Who would anticipate that?

Mooshroo · 31/12/2024 22:42

beetr00 · 31/12/2024 22:34

really can't agree @Mooshroo

It's not anger, it's certainly not harmless, it's patronising and condescending and this is the 21st century fgs

Have a read, maybe change your mind?

Well yes my follow up comment does mention if in a gynecologist setting or similar that it would change things.

Your quoted article is an article about an MN post.

“Based on thematic analysis of discussion on Mumsnet”

…Deja vu?

beetr00 · 31/12/2024 22:41

lolit · 31/12/2024 22:40

Be careful, you'll sprain a wrist with all that reaching

fabulous

Differentstarts · 31/12/2024 22:41

My gp says some right random things but I think its more a language thing as he's not English. Also it could be he's been dealing with children all day and it literally just slipped out. I'm sure we've all said thing and thought wtf straight after.

Minimili · 31/12/2024 22:40

I had a painful steroid injection in my feet and was warned before about how painful it would be.

I was really nervous about it and the doctor giving the injection knew that I already suffer from severe anxiety and had been dreading having it done.

I was absolutely fine in the end but afterwards my doctor patted me on the arm in a comforting way and said “well done, good girl I’m proud of you for getting through that” I’m 40 years old and wasn’t offended, I laughed and asked if I could have a sticker next time or a lollipop. We both laughed at that.

The difference is my doctor was a woman and I was acting like a bit of big baby 😂.

If you were uncomfortable OP and felt like it was said in a creepy way to you then that’s completely different. I think you should have included in your OP you felt it was said in a pervy tone, there is a difference from feeling you’ve been patronised or violated.
Most women recognise when men say something with a sexual undertone and the fact you were having an intimate examination means it was highly inappropriate.
I would mention it if it happened to me, I often get a survey from the NHS about the care I’ve received and I’d include in that. It happens too many times where women are too scared of not being taken seriously in these situations and the offender gets away with it and continues, often the more they get away with it the more the behaviour escalates.

I think it’s important that women flag up any inappropriate behaviour right from the beginning and don’t just try to shrug it off. It might just be a comment made to them but the next woman could end up being treated much worse.

CrowleyKitten · 31/12/2024 22:40

TheM55 · 31/12/2024 21:52

I would find it an odd slightly creepy phrase to use, but I probably would just laugh at it with my mates / family, especially if I didn't object at the time and there was nothing else that was off. Often you can change doctors at the same surgery, or ask if there is a female doctor to see. Complaining is over the top. I once had a GP asking me to take my panties off, and I found that a bit of an odd term too, but put it down to me being slightly weird about the word "panties", preferring almost anything - knickers, pants, underwear etc. It was a female GP, but it wouldn't have mattered, still found the turn of phrase a bit off-putting.

ugh. I HATE the word Panties.
it always sounds so pervy!

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