To ask how much you’d expect a babysitter to cost on NYE

Its hard to believe that they’re not all desperate to look after his children on NYE for £12 an hour. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If he does come back and offer your daughter the £100, if I was her I’d say my prices have gone up due to the now very, very late notice.

Tight bastard.

Are these people qualified and do it as a business? That would be the difference here.

Pyongyangkipperbang reckons £200, go for it LOL

Ha ha-oh dear! Looks like he’ll be staying in with his kids tonight then.

Wow and this is why we hardly ever go out, I couldn't imagine giving a local teen £100 or so to look after sleeping children! I got a fiver back in the early 90s and I was very happy with that. I appreciate she's an adult but it's not a proper job with T&Cs, it's easy money.

For me, I wouldn’t feel comfortable paying anything less than £100 for New Year’s Eve. Due to the nature of the event she’s sitting for, it’s likely she won’t be finished until the early hours, and whether it’s sleeping children or not (hopefully it will be 😊) it’s still putting her in a position of responsibility that I feel reflects such a sum. But as previous posters have said, if she’s not happy with £60, she can always decline.

It's stingy, for sure.

Which is absolutely fine if she doesn't want to do it.

So what did she decide to do OP?

Now she won't be earning anything 🤦‍♀️

I was paid £30 as a 15 year old in 2005! And I felt hard done by then. £60 these days is a bit of a piss take for new years eve.

I looked into babysitters for NYE and the minimum has been double standard rates with most places asking for triple. If I were your daughter £100 would be the bare minimum; also is unlikely they’ll be back by 1am/ on time.

£60 is plenty for an evening of babysitting sleeping children. She is just sitting watching TV!

All the nonsense about minimum wage and living wage - this is not her job, she is not a qualified childcare provider, she will not be paying tax or national insurance on this "earning", she is not being paid a wage. She is just babysitting, and the children will be asleep.

She values her time as worth more than he (and you and others) do. Which is also reasonable.

For £85 I’d do it, she’s not doing anything else so why not, it’s really not that cheeky.

Of course she doesn't have to do it.
£85 tax free isn't really peanuts though, and I think it's a reasonable offer for someone unqualified to do 5 hours of work.

Yes - ESPECIALLY if you were someone's manager. I'd be concerned about coming across like I was taking advantage in an unequal power relationship, so I'd definitely make sure I paid above market rate to make that clear!

WHAAAAAT?!

I can't believe he did that. I really really hope nobody offers to do it. She absolutely should stand her ground. Actually (and this totally depends on personal finances of course) but if I was her mother I'd be so proud of her for sticking to her guns and refusing to be taken advantage of that I'd give her the £60 myself if she ended up not babysitting for him.

What an absolute CF! Valuable lesson for your daughter though - it's dog-eat-dog out there and managers will take advantage where they can!

Thank you. That's very well explained.

@PyongyangKipperbang Its YOUR reason for not going out, not everyones. You really are very small minded if you cant see that not everyone is the same as you!

That was my point, not yours.

It's more complicated than that.

This is isn't just any night of the year. The OP hasn't applied for the job - she's been asked to do it as a favour, presumably because babysitters are in short supply at that particular time of year.

For a job she doesnt have to do.

He wants to buy her time and she has named her price. He has a choice whether or not to pay that, and if he chooses not to, fine. No skin off her nose it sounds like, the OP is not giving the impression that she needs the money.

She doesnt need to be grateful for peanuts, he should be grateful if she says yes. But I strongly hope that she doesnt because this sounds like a "roll in a 7am after they got pissed at a mates" scenario where he has "lost" his wallet and she gets no money at all.

Its YOUR reason for not going out, not everyones.

You really are very small minded if you cant see that not everyone is the same as you! You clearly are very bitter and whilst I sympathise, its not fair to be so unkind to others. It wont make you feel better.

£100 definitely especially since it's a baby and a preschooler. The chance of the 18 month old getting up in that 5 hour window is very high, she has to price it as the worst case scenario. Two screaming under 5s who won't settle without Mummy or Daddy for 5 hours! Can't believe the cheeky fucker tried it on with £85.

@ThatMauveRaven if he does agree to the £100 make sure your daughter gets it at the start of the night. If he doesn't have it she should walk away because if he doesn't have it at 8, he won't have it at 1am. She also needs to make it clear if they are late, they'll need to pay more, if they're early tough shit.