To ask how much you’d expect a babysitter to cost on NYE

Fucking lol at someone describing this babysitting request on NYE as “being asked to cover a shift”.

Standard rates of pay for full time roles are different to an individually negotiated price for ad hoc work for someone who is a full time student, already has a part time job, doesn't require this income for living expenses and is considering completely optional additional work on a day which is traditionally one of the main celebrations in the annual calendar.

So interesting, this thread, when you look at all the essential but chronically underpaid workers in the UK. If I only worked for the rate I know we should be on and colleagues did the same, there would be no professionally trained carers anywhere on these isles.

When i was a teen i babysat
The parents had no mobile
I had the number of the the pub or restaurant
I had no first aid training
I would bet my last fiver millions of teens up and down the country have done this

But ultimately it doesn't matter either way. What matters is if this young woman wants to do the job for this price.

Totally agree with this.

It's not cheeky to have a £ value that you would consider worth doing a job for.
Nor cheeky to have a £ value you would consider worth paying for a job.

The babysitter could ask for £1000 and the parent offer £2.50. Neither are CFs but neither are likely to find a someone willing to pay or do the job for that.

He offered £85 and that wasn't worth it to OP's daughter. Fair enough - her life, her decision.

It wasn't worth £100 to him so he declined, Fair enough - his life, his decision.

You think it's cheeky to offer double minimum wage to someone without qualifications?

Maybe we're on a different thread but I've read a lot of replies saying they would do it. And if OPs daughter really thought that then OP wouldn't need to start a thread at all.

£15 per hour is my standard London suburbs (more NYE)

£12 an hour, reasonable as she's under 21 but I'd also ask for lift/taxi home and a pizza being left

Well, I'm sure your opinion on it is very comforting to him given that apparently 80 different young people all disagreed and not a single one of them was prepared to accept his proposed £60 payment, and he's now sitting at home for the evening. 😃

£60 was fair enough if she had no other plans. £100 was a mickey take really.

Good for her

Just caught up with this from yesterday

Cheeky sod

He should have paid the £100

What did dd do in the end ? On sofa or out with friends

But you don't need a dbs or any of that other stuff. It's babysitting sleeping children, literally sitting on the sofa and watching tv! I did it when I was a teen, it's a piece of cake when they're asleep. There are people out there working really hard for not much more than £12 an hour. I don't understand

More fool you if you leave your children with someone without a DBS check or basic first aid training.

Irrelevant in this case, anyway, because the OP's daughter has both so can reasonably expect to be paid as such.

This is caring for an 18 month old and 4 year old. It very much might not be "just sitting on the sofa".

These attitudes astonish me. We are talking about somebody left in loco parentis, required to respond if the child becomes unwell and needs urgent medical attention, and as I said earlier in the thread would be responsible for gettig your children out of the house if there was a fire, dealing with an attempted burglary, etc. It is a responsible job and should be done by a responsible and capable person and paid as such. Most cleaners are paid more than the rates people are quoting here to pay someone with whom they would be trusting sole care of their children. Mind-boggling.

DELIGHTED she is not doing it! Good on her!
As for the absolute MISER who pays her babysitter £20 a night. Shame on you taking advantage of someone like that. Mortified for you.

I pay £75 for a normal evening (5 hours at £15 ph), no special night (eg NYE), and no late hours (1am is a big ask!). So I'd be mortified to offer only £5 extra for NYE and until 1am!

I'm assuming an extra zero in your reply, Oona!

I would expect to pay £1000 minimum. New Years Eve is only once a year and you're expecting someone to give theirs up so you can go out and enjoy yourself.

I think 60 is minimum acceptable.

100 would be very generous, would say 80 would be a good amount to offer. Will they provide food/take away money on top?

Obviously DD can say no she has plans (even if those plans are to stay home and rest!).

I’m not sure the boundaries are worth crossing for any price as this is her manager, but that’s a personal decision for her.

@Meemeows "That's not enough for a normal Fri/ Sat evening for 5hrs let alone NYE, especially for a DBS checked young woman with healthcare and first aid training and experience with children. I pay mine £16ph on a normal even"

But you don't need a dbs or any of that other stuff. It's babysitting sleeping children, literally sitting on the sofa and watching tv! I did it when I was a teen, it's a piece of cake when they're asleep. There are people out there working really hard for not much more than £12 an hour. I don't understand

Are you the type of parent that would tell their child to sit at home and claim benefits rather than work a minimum wage job also?

What? So young people should let stingy people exploit them?

The OP already said this man is her manager, so clearly she works. Why are you talking about benefits?  She just isn't going to give up her NYE for a knockdown price to look after his children because he wants to pay a shockingly low hourly rate for someone to do so. If anything the fact he doesn't deem caring for his children something worthy of much over minimum wage says way more about him than about her.

Yep- he's staying at home for the sake of £15 🤦🏼‍♀️

Sorry, on a normal evening! NYE should be double plus a nice takeaway and a taxi home.

So glad your DD stood her ground @ThatMauveRaven. I hope she has a fabulous evening and that her boss enjoys his £15 while sitting at home. 🤣🤣🤣

That's not enough for a normal Fri/ Sat evening for 5hrs let alone NYE, especially for a DBS checked young woman with healthcare and first aid training and experience with children. I pay mine £16ph on a normal even

£60 seems fine to me but it seems im in the minority.

Neither! It’s just a small (and rather unprofessional…) family business. He has since put the offer of £60 for the night into the staff group chat - they’ve all left him on read

Ahahhaaaaa

Brilliant. And much deserved. I hope he learns a lesson from this, the stingy git!

WTF! He was quibbling over £15 to get a babysitter on NYE at an already knockdown rate?! I hope she told him to get stuffed. Will catch up on the thread now!