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Worried about DH parental leave

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Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 08:41

DH is taking some parental leave soon as my maternity pay is coming to an end, we have DD who is 7 months. When we planned this a lot of the decision was financial as we can’t afford to drop to one income and DHs company will top up his pay. It obviously seemed more sensible than using childcare.

However I’m a bit worried about DHs parenting style. He doesn’t interact a lot with DD when he’s looking after her and will leave her to her own devices. She’ll play independently for a bit but she is only 7 months old so although she has toys she doesn’t know what to do with them. Also, I feel it’s important for her development to interact with her.

Eg yesterday I asked him to look after her for an hour whilst I did some cleaning and sorted out washing. He just laid on the sofa and watched a film whilst DD roamed around on the floor. She was safe but not exactly stimulated and he would just pause his film and speak to her when she cried. I could hear her crying and DH ignored her so I had to go down and play with her for a bit.

The other day I went for a run when he watched her and when I came back she was in her jumperoo and he was cleaning his car with the front door closed. Yes she was safe but not exactly happy.

Since we originally planned the leave I’ve come into some money and would be happy to use it to be off for the full 12 months but DH insists he wants to take the leave as he hates his job. I’m worried that DD won’t get any stimulation when he’s off which will be detrimental to her development.

We don’t have any family near us besides MIL. To make it more complicated MIL has recently retired and he’s suggested he’ll just take DD to hers every day so he can get on with jobs around the house. Again I feel like if this is his plan I would rather be off work spending quality time with DD.

Is this unreasonable? I know DD will be safe but she does get bored obviously and DH seems oblivious to this.

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Whatabouthow · 30/12/2024 10:03

The car thing is outrageous. Crawling around exploring is good for her. You sound a bit helicopter-y, but he needs to get the basics right e.g. don't leave the baby in the house alone! If I was running downstairs and leaving baby in the lounge (our kitchen is downstairs) I always followed the rule that if I was to trip and break a leg, the space she was in needed to be safe for six hours until someone came home to help. A jumperoo isn't that.

thescandalwascontained · 30/12/2024 10:02

"I have concerns that I would like to talk about calmly. I have shortened my maternity leave so you could take some paternity leave to spend time with and bond with our daughter. But every single time you look after her, you ignore her to do your own thing. That's not what parental leave is for. It's meant to grow your relationship with your child and help her developmental and social skills as she bonds with you. And now you tell me you're planning to do even more of your own thing and dump our baby on your mother to do so. That's not what was agreed. If you hate your job, find another one. But perhaps we need to reconsider you taking leave at this time and I will see if I can extend mine instead for our daughter's benefit."

Alternatively, suggest he use his leave to look for a new job if he's determined to take it. Talk to MIL about the things she can do with your daughter while she's looking after her. You don't really have any other options here potentially.

Penguinmouse · 30/12/2024 09:58

Having read your updates OP, I think you’re between a rock and a hard place but on reflection, I would actually not shorten your mat leave. If he wants a break from work he can take annual leave. While I think “food before one is just for fun” does hold true, this is the time to be introducing new foods and he won’t even feed her because he doesn’t like mashed up food. He’s really not equipped to look after her every day.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/12/2024 09:51

Re the mashed up food, he could try baby led weaning which involves no mashing, except that I’d worry he wouldn’t supervise her and would leave her to choke.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/12/2024 09:50

@Firstrodeo1 I fell for the “good uncle” trick as well! My exh was really fantastic uncle to his sister’s kids- I had absolutely no concerns about how he would be as a parent m, because he was so hands on with them. He always put them 100% first when we saw them at any family gathering.

He was a terrible dad when we were together - very uninterested in anything that meant he wasn’t doing exactly what he wanted at any given time.

I think he needs to actively demonstrate that he is going to put the baby’s needs first in order for you to agree to his plan. So you need to see evidence of him caring for her properly whilst they’re together.

I agree with those saying it could be quite dangerous to just go and leave him to it - the going outside and leaving her could easily have resulted in serious injury.

If he doesn’t reassure you, I’d just take the mat leave and he can hardly stop you.

cansu · 30/12/2024 09:49

I would say that you are stuck really. He is using the baby to get out of working. He does not actually want to be a parent or to spend time with her. In any event you need to have a proper discussion with him about this. I would be shortening his parental leave if I could but this will obviously result in a massive row. I think this is a serious issue for women who are now giving away their precious maternity leave for lazy men who just want to get out of work.

thepariscrimefiles · 30/12/2024 09:48

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:11

To address some of the points I would like for them to have more time alone but DH generally isn’t keen. I’ve asked him to look after her whilst I clean and it actually annoys me that I have to go down and intervene but I can’t listen to my child crying for more than 10 minutes because she’s being ignored. If shout down to ask if she’s ok I will hear DH pause his film to show her a toy then within a minute it’s back on. Yes she gets time to play independently but I would say DH uses this to his advantage to just ignore her.

He’ll also for example just give a bottle rather than make her a breakfast because he hates the mess from feeding her and says her mashed up food makes him feel ill, again it just makes me nervous because when he’s looking after her all day we can’t just not wean her.

He isn't a safe person for your DD. He gives her a bottle of milk rather than actual meals because mashed up food makes him feel ill? He is absolutely disgraceful. He wants to take parental leave for himself, not because he wants time with his daughter.

Didimum · 30/12/2024 09:46

Since when are we calling being a shit dad a ‘parenting style’?

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 30/12/2024 09:43

He doesn't feed her because he doesn't like mess? That's really not normal and I think you'd be within your rights to demand he steps up or extend your mat leave.

Binman · 30/12/2024 09:43

He’s opting out of everything isn’t he? Work and Child care.

Doesn’t like work so will use parental leave as an excuse not to go in. How is he going to motivate himself to go back?

His actions with your DD are neglect, leaving her to cry, not feeding her, leaving her unsupervised.

Over the next few months she will become more active. In what way will she be safe never mind stimulated.

I can’t believe this is real.

Catza · 30/12/2024 09:39

MyPithyPoster · 30/12/2024 09:31

That could’ve gone either way, though couldn’t it? My dad used to get left alone with us and he used his foot to kick my sister out of the room.

A reluctant parent should never be left with the children.

You just need to ascertain whether he’s just useless or dangerous. I bet his family know the answer to that.

Obviously, if there are concerns about abuse, I wouldn't advocate this approach. But my friend's husband was not abusive in the slightest. He was just convinced that he didn't need to learn any parenting because he had a powerhouse of a wife who was a "baby expert" and was ready to jump in with advice, criticism or "oh, I may as well do it myself". So until she was no longer there, he simply didn't need to be a parent.

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:39

I did trust his parenting before he actually became a parent and has given me a reason not to?!

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Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:38

I’ve suggested he looks for a new job many times and it just comes back to the fact he hates change. He usually puts it back on me as I wasn’t happy in my job either before I went on maternity leave although I was pregnant so decided it would be better to stay in it and I’ve got an internal move lined up when I return which I interviewed for whilst on mat leave so I have taken some action.

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buttonousmaximous · 30/12/2024 09:38

It might encourage him to bond with dd and step up. You kind of have to trust him to

pikkumyy77 · 30/12/2024 09:31

If he doesn’t like his job why doesn’t he start looking for a better one? The baby isn’t a good excuse for skivving off.

MyPithyPoster · 30/12/2024 09:31

Catza · 30/12/2024 09:28

I completely understand the nervousness around this but, believe me, you are on your way to becoming a "baby expert" and you absolutely have to let go before it becomes solely your responsibility to raise your child. My friend had a useless husband. Her answer? She came to stay with me for three weeks and left her husband in sole charge of the baby. It completely transformed their lives. 16 years on, he is the most attentive and knowledgeable father I have ever met. After their second, he became a SAHP for a while allowing my friend to further her career. Both kids are happy and healthy and their relationship has never been better. And this is the same bloke who wouldn't let me and my friend relax with a cup of tea because he couldn't figure out how to put baby to bed.
Trust me, sometimes you have to do a radical thing. So take yourself out of the house and let them figure it out.

That could’ve gone either way, though couldn’t it? My dad used to get left alone with us and he used his foot to kick my sister out of the room.

A reluctant parent should never be left with the children.

You just need to ascertain whether he’s just useless or dangerous. I bet his family know the answer to that.

Catza · 30/12/2024 09:28

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:11

To address some of the points I would like for them to have more time alone but DH generally isn’t keen. I’ve asked him to look after her whilst I clean and it actually annoys me that I have to go down and intervene but I can’t listen to my child crying for more than 10 minutes because she’s being ignored. If shout down to ask if she’s ok I will hear DH pause his film to show her a toy then within a minute it’s back on. Yes she gets time to play independently but I would say DH uses this to his advantage to just ignore her.

He’ll also for example just give a bottle rather than make her a breakfast because he hates the mess from feeding her and says her mashed up food makes him feel ill, again it just makes me nervous because when he’s looking after her all day we can’t just not wean her.

I completely understand the nervousness around this but, believe me, you are on your way to becoming a "baby expert" and you absolutely have to let go before it becomes solely your responsibility to raise your child. My friend had a useless husband. Her answer? She came to stay with me for three weeks and left her husband in sole charge of the baby. It completely transformed their lives. 16 years on, he is the most attentive and knowledgeable father I have ever met. After their second, he became a SAHP for a while allowing my friend to further her career. Both kids are happy and healthy and their relationship has never been better. And this is the same bloke who wouldn't let me and my friend relax with a cup of tea because he couldn't figure out how to put baby to bed.
Trust me, sometimes you have to do a radical thing. So take yourself out of the house and let them figure it out.

femfemlicious · 30/12/2024 09:27

Everydayimhuffling · 30/12/2024 09:23

You need to have a proper discussion and agreement with him about the expectations of the primary parent/at home person. Make notes of possible. E.g. baby will be fed proper food X times per day at least. Baby will never be left alone inside while parent is outside, but can be left in x (child safe) room while parent is in another room.

Then ask him if he feels he is able to provide that level of care. If he can then you have set out a clear expectation. If he can't then you have your answer (and a clear list of why he should never be given primary custody if you need it).

Quite extreme, but you need to be on the same page and his decision-making is not good at the moment.

He will agree but simply won't do it. He will do exactly what he wants

Tiswa · 30/12/2024 09:26

I think you need to sit down and say it isn’t a break from work it is looking after your child and running the house

tell him exactly what you do chores and all and what the expectations are and that it isn’t a holiday

and that frankly shutting the front door in a 7 month old in a jumperoo is dangerous

Everlygreen · 30/12/2024 09:26

Topjoe19 · 30/12/2024 08:47

Well I'd be worried as he left a 7mo inside in a jumperoo with the door closed while he was outside cleaning! That's awful. Honestly he sounds like he just wants to use parental leave to escape work rather than spend time with his DD.

This! Your dd could have got seriously injured and he wouldn't have known. All these things need to be used under supervision so he failed massively there. I would be furious. Raging furious. So now that she was ok being left alone in the house what is he going to do next? Pop to the shops for '2mins' while she naps?

He sounds neglectful and I wouldn't be leaving the baby alone with him at all. This is so wrong op.

femfemlicious · 30/12/2024 09:25

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:11

To address some of the points I would like for them to have more time alone but DH generally isn’t keen. I’ve asked him to look after her whilst I clean and it actually annoys me that I have to go down and intervene but I can’t listen to my child crying for more than 10 minutes because she’s being ignored. If shout down to ask if she’s ok I will hear DH pause his film to show her a toy then within a minute it’s back on. Yes she gets time to play independently but I would say DH uses this to his advantage to just ignore her.

He’ll also for example just give a bottle rather than make her a breakfast because he hates the mess from feeding her and says her mashed up food makes him feel ill, again it just makes me nervous because when he’s looking after her all day we can’t just not wean her.

Wow, he definitely just wants time off work and doesn't intend to look after her!. Maybe he can get a month off and you just accept that your mother inlaw will actually be looking after her for the period. He probably won't do much house work during the period also

pikkumyy77 · 30/12/2024 09:23

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:11

To address some of the points I would like for them to have more time alone but DH generally isn’t keen. I’ve asked him to look after her whilst I clean and it actually annoys me that I have to go down and intervene but I can’t listen to my child crying for more than 10 minutes because she’s being ignored. If shout down to ask if she’s ok I will hear DH pause his film to show her a toy then within a minute it’s back on. Yes she gets time to play independently but I would say DH uses this to his advantage to just ignore her.

He’ll also for example just give a bottle rather than make her a breakfast because he hates the mess from feeding her and says her mashed up food makes him feel ill, again it just makes me nervous because when he’s looking after her all day we can’t just not wean her.

What.an.asshole.

Everydayimhuffling · 30/12/2024 09:23

You need to have a proper discussion and agreement with him about the expectations of the primary parent/at home person. Make notes of possible. E.g. baby will be fed proper food X times per day at least. Baby will never be left alone inside while parent is outside, but can be left in x (child safe) room while parent is in another room.

Then ask him if he feels he is able to provide that level of care. If he can then you have set out a clear expectation. If he can't then you have your answer (and a clear list of why he should never be given primary custody if you need it).

Quite extreme, but you need to be on the same page and his decision-making is not good at the moment.

MyPithyPoster · 30/12/2024 09:20

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:19

No I’m not happy with it, it’s shared parental leave so only one of us can be off and I’ve shortened my mat leave to facilitate it. I would rather take that time myself but DH is insisting he needs the break from work.

He’s not been like this when I’ve seen him with other children before (nieces and nephews etc) so I’m surprised he’s acting this way with DD.

I think it’s a bit of a case of take the people that you live with for granted where is the niece and nephews are short term bursts of interaction and a bit of a novelty.
I honestly don’t know what you can do other than you’re both off together but then that seems like an enormous waste of money.

If you say no, he can’t have the leave. That will probably be the end of the relationship.

Firstrodeo1 · 30/12/2024 09:19

MyPithyPoster · 30/12/2024 09:16

He is gonna use this as a sabbatical or extended holiday and dump her on his mother which is not necessarily a bad thing because at least that way you know she’s gonna get fed
If his mum has her for the majority of the time, are you comfortable with that and then literally he does whatever he wants which it sounds like he’s basically going to do anyway

No I’m not happy with it, it’s shared parental leave so only one of us can be off and I’ve shortened my mat leave to facilitate it. I would rather take that time myself but DH is insisting he needs the break from work.

He’s not been like this when I’ve seen him with other children before (nieces and nephews etc) so I’m surprised he’s acting this way with DD.

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