Anyone else hate the expectation to shave down there?

Can I ask (and I would only ever be able to ask on Mumsnet!) but do all those women who take off all of their pubic hair have neat “innies”? That would explain a lot to me as to why they are comfortable going bare. Or are there any ladies with larger inner labia on show that are also happy to shave it all, and does this get the same reaction, since they cannot possibly look pre-pubescent?

(For the record I’m not quite an “outie” but after childbirth I don’t think it’s pretty enough to go into the world without a bit of cover!)

It isn't, because the advantage of a hairless vulva in porn is the ability to pause, zoom in and see all the detail which hair conceals.

It's absolutely fine to shave it off or not shave it off. You do you.

But it's not debatable that the reason it's become the fashion is because of pornography, and I, for one, will not feel under any pressure because of the fashions of porn stars.

A preference is a preference. There's no way I'd snog a man with a long beard with food bits in it. Yuck. That is MY preference.

Just to add, I’m a dentist and experienced with beards close up so I notice what gets caught up in them.

The global hair removal business is worth over 3 billion pounds. The cynic in me would suggest that there is only one driving force in personal grooming. It wouldn’t surprise me if online porn is sponsored by the industry along with influencers in online and published media.

We all know that money drives most trends and fashions otherwise we would all be wearing the same styles as our grandparents and be fully haired.

I remember an observation made by someone re the length of girls hair and for that matter men’s beards. Both appeared on the scene when pubic hair disappeared. Are they subconsciously replacing one with another.

If your DH/DP has a beard but you are shaved how does that work? Facial hair is a massive trend in the under 30s. Like previous generations beards are now going out but big bushy moustaches have taken their place.
I think that a beard or moustache filled with food and stale beer/saliva is far grimmer than a well maintained pubic beard. If you don’t like oral sex with a man with pubic hair how do your feel about kissing a man with a beard.

I’m not trying to be inflammatory but just curious. DH has never grown facial hair so I’m unable to comment via experience.

Full body hair in porn was never cited as the reason why people had full and plentiful body hair irl.

Tbf most people had full and plentiful body hair because that's just what bodies do. It's the removal that's the conscious choice and activity.

Which makes one wonder how we all have time for mn and aren't all out being pornstars

I doubt most women posting here a) want to b) are what pornographers are looking for.

Yes apparently so. Women's own choices are invalid, we are controlled by porn! Which makes one wonder how we all have time for mn and aren't all out being pornstars

It’s all fine. Free choice. Wouldn’t it be nice if the judgement - in both directions - stopped?

Ah, so if the trend was towards hair in porn it would be fine?

Full body hair in porn was never cited as the reason why people had full and plentiful body hair irl.

That’s got to be the maddest contribution to a bonkers thread. We all have natural body hair, it never occurred to most people to remove it until about 30 years ago. Which coincided with the beginning of freely available porn via the Internet. You can argue this until you’re blue in the face - in fact you do - but the link is irrefutable.

Porn has been around for ever. Full body hair in porn was never cited as the reason why people had full and plentiful body hair irl. Not sure why porn is now cited as the reason people prefer not to be hairy.

Hair removal has come along leaps and bounds in recent years, waxing far more effective than a rusty, blunt Gillette. Many women prefer the look and the feel of being smooth!

I'm not talking about everyone who prefers it, I'm talking about the general trend towards it which has been caused by porn.

No it doesn't.

And that's pretty wild that you would see a man or woman naked and decide they are a porn addict based on how they look.

I don't like getting hair in my mouth. Simple.

How do you know they've watched too much porn? That's a bit of a leap.

Anyone getting close enough to my vulva to know how much hair I have should be considering themselves fortunate imo. I don't feel any pressure whatsoever, and I'm certainly not undergoing painful waxing or itchy shaving because someone else has watched too much porn.

A lot of people on this thread have said those things.

Why because everyone walks around with their lack of body hair on display so you can choose whether to avoid or not?

I think there is more to a person than their personal care preferences tbh. Everyone who shaves their armpits isn't a porn addict, ditto if they remove any other body hair.

Porn addicts are more likely to be the ones online 24hrs a day whilst their unsuspecting partner are asleep in another room and think they're in a mutually agreeable sexless relationship. They're the ones I'd watch out for.

This thread (and every one like it) is literally peppered throughout with those comments.

In your opinion
Why is it ok for a woman to express a preference but not a man
Just because he expresses an opinion does not mean she has to do anything.
I prefer mine waxed.
My husband is hairy and i like it but if i asked him to get rid of the hair he would say no. As is his right

It screams porn addict.

It's a good way of spotting them & avoiding.

And yet look at the last 3 posts about slippery, stinky and smelly if hair removed!

No, they said they feel like that if they remove hair, the way many people have said they feel cleaner if they do.
You know, the much-vaunted personal preference thing?

I haven't had a go at anyone, I have disagreed and disputed some of the claims. Specifically the ones that it makes adults look like children which is a rather inappropriate connection to make and that if it wasn't for porn people wouldn't do it. They would, if they prefer it.

What issue are you talking about. People like what they like and that’s good enough, whatever that preference is.. I was responding to @Gloriia who throughout her posts makes it clear that she she very much doesn’t like pubic hair, which is fine, but then has a continuous go at people who say the opposite, which they are allowed to say as well.

If they find pubic hair a turn off enough to comment on it and ask you to remove it then I would be running far in the opposite direction. That preference is not normal. Only young girls should be hairless.

And yet look at the last 3 posts about slippery, stinky and smelly if hair removed!

People have indeed said those things about looking like dc, a grossly inappropriate link to make, plus porn makes the poor hopeless women do it. As if we cannot think for ourselves or dare to have our own preferences.