Anyone else hate the expectation to shave down there?

@Bambooshoot It's quite sad you think of neat tiny ones being pretty, and ones sticking out as not. Think that comment could make others feel like shit when you feel that yourself.

I've been with my Husband nearly 30 years & it's never been an issue for either of us if I've shaved or not. I'd only do it if he asked if he got lost in the bush or couldn't find his way around down there. I really only tidy up down there for holidays so he's pretty much used to a yetti the rest of the time.

Bless you, Bambooshoot. I get why you might be concerned but you needn't be. If you're doing it for yourself because it's nicer for you then whether your inner labia is tucked inside or poking out, it really won't matter. If you wanted to have waxing (my preference) then find a really good waxing salon, there are many that do only waxing - and they will have seen every type of labia, it's all in a day's work for them and whatever you have is fine, prettiness not a requirement.

It's only on mumsnet that women get criticised for removing their hair. I've not seen this in real life anywhere. It's not really a topic for discussion.

No adult woman can look pre-pubescent, with or without hair. Only the very thick continue to assert that nonsense and are best ignored.

I think that a beard or moustache filled with food and stale beer/saliva is far grimmer than a well maintained pubic beard

Maybe find men who actually put food into their mouth (not around it), and don’t drool? DH and our sons all have beards but they don’t seem to have the odd issue you describe.

I have large inner labia.

I think they are gorgeous. I like that I can see them when I'm bare.

I've seen all kinds of labia in porn. I've never felt like large labia isn't pretty.

I think they look and feel sensual.

If my dh had a hairy back I'd ask him to wax. Smooth is aesthetically a nicer look.

To you. Not everyone has the same taste as you. I'm not a fan of the tortured male chest look as seen on reality tv.

I go bald almost all the time. Only when ingrowing hairs have been a problem I've let it grow a bit.
I've been with girls as well and every single one was shaved - I actually felt embarrassed when I hooked up one unexpectedly around ten years ago and I had a fair bit of bush going on at the time.
I'm an absolute fiend for oral sex and yes It does make it feel better as tongue glides over skin.
My half sister is gay and she says most lesbians she's met under about 40 almost all go bare down there. The issue is never discussed as such but more 'just a thing's. Difficult to explain.
One friend had so bad cysts and ingrown hairs, she has all her body hair Lasered off age 20. She says it's saves so much time it's best time saver she's ever done.

My dh has never shaved his pubes tbh I do mine when I can be bothered I told him he's to shave his if he wants a constant bald look but in fairness he's never ever been bothered by it he's fine either way I just won't do it for anyone because they want it

I'm not! I'm actually saying each to their own. However if people have different body hair maintenance routines then that is fine. It isn't anything to do with wanting to be a pornstar or a prebuscsent child.

Please, let women make their own choices. We are all grown ups.

I didn't say 'yuk'. That was a pp I was merely saying that a beard is indeed body hair.

That’s your opinion.

i don’t think smooth and hairless is a “nicer” look. I really don’t like smooth hairless men with waxed chests. Don’t like the feel of the regrowth either.

Don’t extrapolate your own personal thoughts to the entire human race.

Men and women have body hair. Men and women nowadays wax it isn't anything to do with misogyny. If my dh had a hairy back I'd ask him to wax. Smooth is aesthetically a nicer look.

Genuinely never felt this pressure
i’m 46

The old women with dirty pubic hair is a trope absolutely dripping with misogyny

@Gloriia
"A beard is comparable to body hair as it is indeed body hair."

You compared pubic hair with "a long beard with food in it. Yuck."

The old "women with pubic hair are dirty" trope. Probably spread by the manufacturers of "intimate cleansing products".

As a HCP I’ve been privy to the nethers of many an elderly person, pubes aren’t as rare as you seem to think, they might be white but they’re there.

A beard is comparable to body hair as it is indeed body hair.

Many men and women wax nowadays. I do think it is odd how big bushy beards are everywhere, we can only hope that like man buns they are a passing fad.

@dynamiccactus "A preference is a preference. There's no way I'd snog a man with a long beard with food bits in it. Yuck"

And this is comparable to a woman with pubic hair? Right. I do think the pro-shavers ought sometimes to pause and think before they speak!

Stop watching porn.

Porn vulvas are almost all surgically adapted to suit porn directors.

Most women don't look like that.

😂😂😂spit it out

If anything I've found the opposite. Pubic hair grows like wildfire as you get older!

Give it time. Chances are it will all fall out as you get older anyway. Or are we saying old people look like children? 😅

I always make sure that new partners know that they’re getting whatever I’m serving. That could be a full 70s bush, or somewhat trimmed and manicured, but I will NEVER be bald done there because I’m not a child.

Hair removal adverts are firmly censored not to show a hairless pubic area though, so how would young girls and boys know that it is fashionable to remove everything. It’s not the sort of thing you are comfortable chatting about in your early teens. However, access to online porn is accessible at this age. There’s no point kidding yourself that they don’t have a look and if this is the only image they have of adult young women they are going to follow the trend. They are unlikely to realise that no pubic hair is just limited to porn. Then with social influencers it embeds itself in modern youth culture. And how would young girls know that it’s also a thing that young men are also expected to do?

I had no idea about the lengths some women had to go to with body hair when I was that age. I am blond so don’t have a great deal to cope with. I would do my bikini line so it didn’t poke out of my bikini and underarms but you can’t see the hair on my legs. But I was aware that other girls shave their legs and armpits. Absolutely no idea about the lady gardening until I was in my late teens and read Cosmopolitan. By that stage I was sexually active and there was never any objection or preference from boyfriends.

It wasn’t until a friend of Greek origin did her bikini line in the living room when she was staying with us ( all girl house share) and her bikini line extended down her inner thighs to her knees that I realised I’d got off lightly with body hair.

'But it's not debatable that the reason it's become the fashion is because of pornography, and I, for one, will not feel under any pressure because of the fashions of porn stars.'

How funny that we aren't all going around scantily clad having gang bangs morning noon and night then as porn is sooo influential.

Tbh I think it is hair removal adverts that have more influence than porn sites.