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worriedallthetime15 · 29/12/2024 21:12

I know I probably am being the unreasonable one, but i’m so angry and upset about my mum’s weight and it’s all coming out right now
For context, my mum has struggled with her weight since I was a child, she lost a huge amount a few years ago, was even one of the slimming world slimmers of the year losing about 5 stone. Before that she had also dropped a lot and got down to a really small size around 2007.

Anyway, this year has been hard for our family. We’re all very close and my grandmother had a very difficult stay in the hospital and we nearly lost her a few times. She’s finally out and she has more care needs than she did before. I am helping my mother care for her all day as it stands.
My mother is 64, she is struggling with her weight and she keeps getting fluid on her legs, they go red and swollen. She also refuses to ever see a GP.
When she was in the hospital with my grandmother we saw how awful the NHS is at the minute. Literally saw older people being dehydrated and left to die and she kept saying how she couldn’t end up in hospital. She even dropped 2 stone.
Now it’s all gone back on and more and she’s just given up. I know it’s Christmas, but she’s being a glutton. Every night she has a huge slab of brownie, loads of ice creams and double cream and chocolate sauce all over. I asked her to maybe just have a slice of the brownie once in a while.
Anyway, it all came to a head last night when I commented on her yet again overloaded desert.
What I feel is, if she ends up in hospital, I’ll not only have to care for her (I’m an only child and she’s not married) but I’ll also have to somehow care for my nan at the same time. I’m also disabled myself and as I type I’m in a lot of pain with arthritis but have to keep on to care for my grandmother. I can’t possibly do everything and care for her at the same time and take it all on, I’ll have no life of my own. I have a lot to manage with my own health conditions anyway.
She refuses to take any responsibility for herself and I think maybe I’m being selfish in just wanting to her to take ownership of her own health.

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worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:59

sloecat · 30/12/2024 10:34

You are in an awful situation OP. For starters, book a carer’s assessment without telling your mother. You may not even have to have it at home and it is something you could discuss. I would also contact Adult Social Services for yourself and see if they have anything they could offer to help. You cannot continue like this. Are you getting PIP for your disability? You can still get it if you work. You need a lot of support for yourself if you are going to continue to support your mother and grandmother. As for your mother not letting anyone in the house, you need to put your foot down and say you are not going to do the extra care or the cleaning and you have to have help. The cleaners and carers can wear masks in the house if they are so worried about covid or she could get an air purifier/open the windows or whatever but you need to stop doing everything. As long as you are things won’t change. It is not an uncommon cycle you are trapped in. My own mother was stubborn as anything and wouldn’t accept help but at least she did have a cleaner. She died prematurely and there was nothing I could have done to prevent that, though god knows I tried. However, I didn’t live with her so could escape some of the stress. You really need to prioritise your own health and not allow your mother dictate who you have in your own home as it is your home too. Best of luck to you and I hope you can get some help in place.

I think I might book one, just keep it quiet. It's not right tbh.

I am getting PIP yes, it's why I'm worried about rocking the boat as I know things are quite difficult with benefits lately.

I've said they can wear a mask, they were when they were coming before Christmas. Now she's saying I said I didn't want them in and spreading disease. I said I wanted her out of the hospital with it, and I said the carers need to wear masks as my nan had pneumonia, but I've never said they shouldn't be here or cleaner or anything. Everything is twisted.

I think she will die prematurely. I know I'll blame myself for it all. I'm so sorry for your loss, it must be difficult to make peace with.

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Iwishiwasagiraffe · 30/12/2024 10:58

Op your mum needs to help herself but you also need to help yourself and you’re not doing it. You need to move out and have a life of your own that isn’t so entrenched with your mum and nan. You need to be independent in your own house or flat. It’s ridiculous that your nan has stopped all the care visits she had when she knows you’re struggling- this is selfish behaviour. The whole set up is a massively unhealthy dynamic

BarbedButterfly · 30/12/2024 10:48

Trying to say this gently OP but if you don't move out then nothing will ever change. Your mum won't stop over eating. Your nan won't accept carers because you are there and she has a choice because of that. Until you are willing to make the break no one can help you. No one can give you the combination of words that make them understand and change.

You need to fit your own oxygen mask first.

You can make friends or maybe meet someone. It doesn't have to be a lonely existence. Sometimes life is better without a toxic family anyway.

Spanglemum02 · 30/12/2024 10:47

Make an appointment with your GP and see what they recommend. It all sounds very unhealthy at the moment, both psychologically and health wise. You won't be able to care for your mum if you go under. It sounds like a lot of emotional manipulation is going on. You would be better off somewhere else.
Do you get PIP , could you afford a cleaner? I think your long term plan needs to be to leave home.

sloecat · 30/12/2024 10:34

You are in an awful situation OP. For starters, book a carer’s assessment without telling your mother. You may not even have to have it at home and it is something you could discuss. I would also contact Adult Social Services for yourself and see if they have anything they could offer to help. You cannot continue like this. Are you getting PIP for your disability? You can still get it if you work. You need a lot of support for yourself if you are going to continue to support your mother and grandmother. As for your mother not letting anyone in the house, you need to put your foot down and say you are not going to do the extra care or the cleaning and you have to have help. The cleaners and carers can wear masks in the house if they are so worried about covid or she could get an air purifier/open the windows or whatever but you need to stop doing everything. As long as you are things won’t change. It is not an uncommon cycle you are trapped in. My own mother was stubborn as anything and wouldn’t accept help but at least she did have a cleaner. She died prematurely and there was nothing I could have done to prevent that, though god knows I tried. However, I didn’t live with her so could escape some of the stress. You really need to prioritise your own health and not allow your mother dictate who you have in your own home as it is your home too. Best of luck to you and I hope you can get some help in place.

Blakehouse · 30/12/2024 10:32

If you do the same thing you get the same results. Concern yourself with your own life. Only you can make the change. Go on Spare Room and look for a house share with women of your own age. View them, and go. You don’t need tell your mum til you’ve gone. Being a martyr is a choice.

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:32

BenditlikeBridget · 30/12/2024 10:19

None of that has to be true.

You can still have support, from carers, from new friends you can make, from your therapist and from your family IF they stop being abusive.

You CAN still have family if they stop being abusive. Why would you want it otherwise?

They need support with your Nan. That doesn’t have to be you fulltime. They need to get proper care in place. It doesn’t stop you still going round and doing things with/for them, on your own terms and again, only IF they stop abusing you.

I don't think they can stop their behaviour. They've just been shouting at me because I explained how much pain I was in yesterday. Apparently it's just because they don't want me to be in pain... but they're shouting at me about it?

If they don't stop I'll have no family, not one family member. It just seems like it'll be a lonely existence.

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stomachamelon · 30/12/2024 10:31

Gently you are as co dependent as they are and until one of you breaks the cycle this is your reality. You are asking your mum not to be dramatic, shouting and thinking the worst but from all the suggestions you have had you do exactly the same. Dismiss every suggestion. Downplay every idea.

Of course you can move out and it won't be catastrophic or mean the end of support.
Of course your nan and mum will come round to carers if you don't buy into the histrionics and take over.

You have a choice. You are choosing the safe option you know. Non of your relationships are healthy.

BenditlikeBridget · 30/12/2024 10:19

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:15

If I block them I'll have no support or family and I'll be leaving when they need help the most with everything that's happened with my nan.

None of that has to be true.

You can still have support, from carers, from new friends you can make, from your therapist and from your family IF they stop being abusive.

You CAN still have family if they stop being abusive. Why would you want it otherwise?

They need support with your Nan. That doesn’t have to be you fulltime. They need to get proper care in place. It doesn’t stop you still going round and doing things with/for them, on your own terms and again, only IF they stop abusing you.

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:17

BenditlikeBridget · 30/12/2024 10:12

OP, you need to get out of this, it’s too toxic for words. Could you at least research what you would be entitled to if you moved out? Make an appointment at citizens advice maybe? Ask your therapist to help you become less emmeshed.

I have been working on that with my therapist. After this morning with them all screaming at me I was in tears so I've contacted my therapist for an appointment for help.
It's something that I sometimes don't like to confront and it's sold as nice how close we all are. But yeah, it's too much that it's like this.

I'm not sure what I'd be entitled to and the way the system is now, I'm scared to even rock the boat.

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worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:15

BenditlikeBridget · 30/12/2024 10:14

So DON’T TELL THEM until it’s sorted. And then block and mute the abuse until it settles down.

You don’t have to live like this, you really don’t.

If I block them I'll have no support or family and I'll be leaving when they need help the most with everything that's happened with my nan.

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worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:14

dothehokeycokey · 30/12/2024 09:01

@worriedallthetime15

Sorry to read your post.
I have a parent that is similar

Over the years I've really tried and even got them to slimming world where they lost 7 stone and it was amazing but it gradually went back in and more.

The issue with my parent is the other parent also lives with them but isn't obese but has absolutely no idea about portion control or nutrition

I've spent years trying to get them both to understand and it does affect me a fair bit as obese parents mobility is not great and they can't always feel their feet etc

I had to scream at them to get them to go to the drs and had to take them in the car as they had such bad infections and swelling in both feet and legs the gp wanted them to go to hospital for iv antibiotics but they wouldn't so had it at home but just dug their heels in constantly and the other parent just checks out when I'm there and leaves me to it which really pisses me off.

I've noticed the last couple of months that obese parent is getting really badly out of breath all the time and can't put their own shoes on now either and balance is even worse.

I actually yelled at not obese parent the other day and said I'm bloody sick of them not looking after themselves and how selfish they are to let it get to this stage
Apparently non obese parent is making a gp appointment for obese parent but wel see how that goes.
The minute the gp asks them to get on the scales or try's to discuss their weight they shut down and refuse any suggestions it's so frustrating.

I've mentioned injectables but obese parent still follows the mantra that they don't eat a lot however they are deluded.

They also drink daily and I'm pretty convinced they're diabetic although they try to convince me the last lot of tests said they were t however they were quite a long time ago now.

Even the foot lady that comes has told them they need to see the gp about not feeling their feet properly.

The scary thing is they still drive which petrifies me.
But what else can you do

My sibling is useless so it's literally all left to me

I'm so sorry you're also going through this with a parent, I think it's not something people understand unless they're also in it.

It's funny, my mum also has that delusion, she'll say 'it's only a small tub of ice cream' when it's just a regular sized one or that other people eat a whole tub to themselves, as if it matters what other people do when it's your own health that matters.

I'm glad to see you yelled, it's OK people on here preaching we shouldn't comment or be kind or patient when we've seen it all happen and at most times we do have to sit there and ignore it or offer support, but we come to a breaking point eventually.

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BenditlikeBridget · 30/12/2024 10:14

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:09

None really, I find it all overwhelming and I know that it'll cause huge arguments in the household, blowout arguments and attacks.

So DON’T TELL THEM until it’s sorted. And then block and mute the abuse until it settles down.

You don’t have to live like this, you really don’t.

BenditlikeBridget · 30/12/2024 10:12

OP, you need to get out of this, it’s too toxic for words. Could you at least research what you would be entitled to if you moved out? Make an appointment at citizens advice maybe? Ask your therapist to help you become less emmeshed.

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:09

soupfiend · 30/12/2024 09:30

You do need to move out OP, what actions have to taken to do that?

None really, I find it all overwhelming and I know that it'll cause huge arguments in the household, blowout arguments and attacks.

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worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:06

DeliciousApples · 30/12/2024 10:03

Maybe you could say to your mum that your own health conditions have been playing up recently, that you still have to work from home too (presumably mum doesn't) and that you need help with caring for your Nan because you are feeling like it's all too much for you at the moment.

That she should be able to look after Nan as she doesn't work and that if she can't do it all then the carers will have to do more.

Phone the council in private and tell them the situation. That your health condition means you can't do it all after the carers leave, and not to listen to your mum when she says "we will manage" because she means you and you can't.

I wouldn't focus on your mums weight any more as that's her problem not yours and age is aware of it now, but if she says she can't do things I would remind her that she will be able to once she loses weight. But in the meantime the carers will have to be involved until such time as your own health improves.

Then look fur a flat if your own. Find out what benefits you'd be entitled to if alone in a nearby flat. You are not losing your family just living and working nearby. You can't live there forever. You deserve to be happy and not tied down by others self inflicted health issues.

See my latest post, all hell has broken loose because I've suggested extra care.

The carer turned up and was sent away this morning and that's it.

An argument is raging as I said I was in pain and we needed some help and could get a care assessment.

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worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 10:04

Dearg · 30/12/2024 09:21

I agree with @candlerhyme . If you are in your own place, does not need to be far away, your own symptoms may improve.

It’s not for your mum or nan to refuse you a carer’s assessment. What are they afraid of? That you will be told to do less?

Hopefully, you can get back to work soon, and out of this co-dependent cycle .Ideally, out of the house a few days a week if that’s possible. It sounds like some company away from home would be helpful.

I bought it up this morning and a huge argument is now raging. They can't tell me why we're having an argument or why what I've said is so wrong.

I just said we need support and help and to ask the carers and for an assessment. My mum is shouting I want people in the house spreading COVID. My nan is crying saying she should never have come out of hospital and she's too much of a burden and they're both telling me I'm living in a dreamworld if I think the carers will help with cleaning.

There's no reason why it all erupts into this, it just always does and it makes no sense because I've said nothing wrong and yet I'm being treated like I've said something offensive.

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DeliciousApples · 30/12/2024 10:03

Maybe you could say to your mum that your own health conditions have been playing up recently, that you still have to work from home too (presumably mum doesn't) and that you need help with caring for your Nan because you are feeling like it's all too much for you at the moment.

That she should be able to look after Nan as she doesn't work and that if she can't do it all then the carers will have to do more.

Phone the council in private and tell them the situation. That your health condition means you can't do it all after the carers leave, and not to listen to your mum when she says "we will manage" because she means you and you can't.

I wouldn't focus on your mums weight any more as that's her problem not yours and age is aware of it now, but if she says she can't do things I would remind her that she will be able to once she loses weight. But in the meantime the carers will have to be involved until such time as your own health improves.

Then look fur a flat if your own. Find out what benefits you'd be entitled to if alone in a nearby flat. You are not losing your family just living and working nearby. You can't live there forever. You deserve to be happy and not tied down by others self inflicted health issues.

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 09:59

FamilyPhoto · 30/12/2024 09:36

I am your DM in this situation.
My DD has left yesterday after a longish Xmas visit and I can see that she is worried about my weight. I would need to loose 3 stone to be a healthy BMI.
My DD had an honest talk with me yesterday about her fears over my weight and health, which Ive been thinking about all night.
If she would have commented on what I was eating as I ate it I know I would have been defensive and upset.

You see, the thing is, I've done what your daughter has done, many many times. It's all been met with blow up arguments. I've tried other things like your daughter and not remarking on her food, I've held my tongue over and over.

It was just the last straw of the 5th day in a row with a huge slab and ice cream that she'd piled up as a side dish to her dessert.

I've tried being patient and compassionate, I've tried everything. Truly. I've gone the way your DD went to try everything.

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Daleksatemyshed · 30/12/2024 09:57

Sadly @worriedallthetime15 the only person you can save is yourself. You need to move out or when your DM inevitably needs care you'll be the one doing it, even though you're disabled. If your DM was kind or accepted medical help it could be different but she verbally abuses you if you even mention Drs. Find your own home Op and your own life

FamilyPhoto · 30/12/2024 09:36

I am your DM in this situation.
My DD has left yesterday after a longish Xmas visit and I can see that she is worried about my weight. I would need to loose 3 stone to be a healthy BMI.
My DD had an honest talk with me yesterday about her fears over my weight and health, which Ive been thinking about all night.
If she would have commented on what I was eating as I ate it I know I would have been defensive and upset.

Sossijiz · 30/12/2024 09:34

You can't control what your mother eats, but you are under no obligation to be her carer.

Superhansrantowindsor · 30/12/2024 09:33

Overweight people know they are overweight. We know it is bad for us and that it could kill is and yet we are still overweight. We know to eat less and move more. We know all these things. Obesity is an illness. The fact we know all these things and yet still overweight eat shows you that it is actually a lot more complex than eat less and move more. You mum needs compassion not condemnation.

Lanzarotelady · 30/12/2024 09:30

worriedallthetime15 · 30/12/2024 09:20

She's literally asking me to help her all the time, she tells me I'll have to care for her when things happen. It's only me left, nobody else will look after her and she will refuse carers or a care home.
If she was independent I'd leave her to it, but it's on me too.

I do stand on my own two feet, I'm financially independent (she never has been and always relied on her mother) and have my own life, but it's not as if I can wash my hands of all this when she's telling me I need to step up.

She can say it will be left to you, but you don't have to, do you, but you know you will because you are just repeating the cycle. She is independent enough to buy to food, prepare it and eat it!

soupfiend · 30/12/2024 09:30

You do need to move out OP, what actions have to taken to do that?