My husband is acting is strangely

Hoping your dh is getting look after with the right care and you are feeling supported.

What do you mean? He may indeed have a mental health condition, such as psychosis. There will be a thorough assessment.

Push for assessment for physical illness and don't be fobbed off with 'mental health"

Another stranger wishing your family good luck.

I hope it goes well for you and your family. Sounds like you’re trying your best in a difficult and scary situation

Good luck OP. I hope he gets the help he needs.

I'm just a bloke who was unwell... Who recovered - I'm not an expert. This isn't an expert panel of GPs and MDs.

I was admitted voluntarily and then under a section 5. They didn't communicate with me the intricacies of the sequence of the regulation of how or why I was there and for how long and what changed and when. My partner became my registered carer... Where I was responsible for all things to do with bills, technology, upkeep of the vehicles etc that all fell onto my partner's shoulders. I had to request my medical records through a DSAR to work out what happened over the first year or so as I have no real recollection of events.

I'm not going to lay out the entire course of my mental health to answer every question on here. I tried to answer honestly from lived experience with regard to helping the OP. The slight error in what I thought I knew will not effect the help they receive... I didn't really want to divulge my own experiences in the vain hope that I'd be cut some slack lol

I had MHFA England training before I was ill, that was of little use when I fell ill myself. Being handed controlled medication by nurses when I was responsible for managing and administering controlled medication myself was ironic, to say the least.

I'm now a volunteer to help people with mental health issues, I'll be sure to amend my responses about voluntary sections. In conversation with others with lived experience within the peer group I'm part of, it's spoken about and never been contested. I'll be sure to mention the correct terminology when signposting.

Thank you for the clarification.

Thank goodness you finally got him help op.

I hope he gets the help he needs.

Thinking of you both today. I hope he gets the help he needs today. Be aware that MH services are really stretched so getting the support can be hard.

Section 5 would only allow you to be detained for up to 72 hours whilst waiting for an assessment under the Mental Health Act. At that point, you would either be detained under a S2 (up to 28 days) or a S3 (up to 6 months), or they would have to let you leave.

If you were on a section 5 for a few weeks that is unlawful and would not have happened. A S5 is holding powers only, until a patient can be assessed properly.

It's not semantics. The MHA is a strict piece of legislation, and no one is on a Section 5 for a few weeks.

What can and does happen- but never should, is informal patients can be told that if they try to leave the ward they will be sectioned. This can lead to patients complying, so a 'de facto detention' that should never happen and is unlawful.

My DP has the crisis team number now if I'm acting out of sorts. They have also told me to phone them if I need to talk.It's just a shame it's so many people that come out though as I found that really hard . So I find it easier talking to my GP instead

It isn’t just semantics though and it doesn’t help anyone going through a MH crisis to give them blatantly incorrect information.
I wish you all the best and I’m pleased that the OP is in touch with the crisis team. Hopefully her DH can get the help he needs.

Look... I've been in hospital twice for 28 days at a time. Both times were 'voluntary' as I went willingly but I wasn't allowed to leave for a few weeks, so it was a section 5. Just because I don't know the NHS Googled terminology of what each section means or how it's implemented, doesn't mean you should be cruel or scared about someone else's experiences and understanding of what happened to them during acute psychosis.

My ex partner had no idea what to do. She didn't call the police or an ambulance, it took a friend/social worker to suggest the CRISIS team. Until it affects you and your family, most ppl don't know what to do in that situation, especially with a young child (mine was nearly two at the time and asleep).

At the door when I was taken away it was deemed a voluntary admission with a section 5 from the point the doors closed behind me in the mental hospital in less than an hour from leaving my front door.

You're right, I'm wrong. Life's too short to argue about semantics.

Really pleased to hear that the OP is in touch with the CRISIS team.

This is a rude awakening for my first time on Mumsnet - proceed with caution :/

Good luck @Deppcandouno!
I hope your DP and you get help quickly!
You have to push for help sometimes, don't let them to fob you off.

Yhe person I was helping managed somehow to seem normalish during appointment (happens apparently) but deteriorated quickly afterwards. Thankfully it all happened in A&E and she received the help she needed.

That's great OP, I really hope they can get him the right support. It must be so scary for you x

Good luck Op , hope he now gets the help he needs x

Yeah mine was because I had postpartum Psychosis
I have had quite a few relapses in the 9years I've had him if my anxiety is bad aswell . It deteriorates quite rapidly. I could be lucid to ill within seconds of eachother . My partner tried everything phoning the doctors , driving me down to the doctors , doctors trying to coax me out of the car (I didn't trust them) in the end he had to phone the police crying because I jumped of the wall they then called an ambulance. That's why it's really important to get him there when still lucid . Its not nice when police come into your home like your a criminal when you already don't trust anyone 😭

Not all of them, don't use this as a blanket rule if you ever encounter someone in a mental health crisis. I've been involved with a few who recognised, as far as they were able to (one was nearly completely uncommunicative),that they were deeply unwell /something was very wrong with them.

I hope you get the help you both need. It’s really frightening when a loved one suddenly isn’t themself anymore. It’s really hard to know when to step in because they’re not well enough to advocate for themself.

OP, if the crisis team are useless then do insist on his GP seeing him, they can rule out stuff and get him assessed by the mental health team.
He's unlikely to be admitted or sectioned, honestly, just because those things barely exist in reality in the UK any more, they are kind of a mirage, existing in imagination only.
Make a full list of any co-occurring physical symptoms, recent events or illnesses, drugs or medicines and be a detective, don't let anyone put it all down to mental health until physical illness is ruled out.

"I’m number 1 in the queue to speak to the crisis team"

Thinking of you and really hope they're helpful. I feel for you all. Mental illness can turn a family upside down

I hope you get the help he needs. I have had to take my DH to a&e twice due to similar behaviour. Thankfully he was willing to go as he had enough insight to realise he was unwell.

I found them to be very good in a crisis, not so good afterwards, MIND however were great, so do try and get support from every direction.

Fingers crossed you get the right kind of help soon, it sounds scary for all of you.