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To want the car to move!

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honeyandbutterontoast · 29/12/2024 16:19

Looking for honest opinions here because I’m aware this may make me seem like an AH.

I live in a road where the majority of houses don’t have drives. We park on the road. I knew that when I bought the house, it’s not permit parking but there is usually space for two small cars in front of my house. It has never been a problem in the time I’ve lived here, occasionally if there’s a local event I’ve had to park up the road for a few hours if I’ve been out, or for an evening.

Four weeks ago I came home from work to find a big car taking up both spaces outside. So I parked elsewhere. The car is still there.

Nobody has been to it, or moved it in that time and frankly I’m getting annoyed. I have to now park a long way from my house (else I’m in someone else’s space), which has been annoying with heavy bags of food shopping, or if I’m going out with the dog/DC. It’s meant if my mum has visited she’s also had to park elsewhere, again not ideal.

But what can I do? No point leaving a note as nobody has been to the car in that time (it’s right outside my window so I would see). None of the neighbours know who it belongs to either. It seems a stupid thing to get stressed about but I just want to be able to park outside my house!

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Ablondiebutagoody · 29/12/2024 17:32

From the 1st link, second paragraph:

"We won't intervene in residential disputes about vehicles outside your property, or if you simply do not like a particular vehicle in the street where you live"

They simply don't tow vehicles after 4 weeks of not moving. They might check it out but will conclude that it's not abandoned. Just a busybody wasting everyone's time.

GeraldineMoore · 29/12/2024 17:32

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Rosscameasdoody · 29/12/2024 17:32

toomuchfaff · 29/12/2024 17:30

Dump a box of eggs on it. Cracked and smashed. If no one is "keeping an eye on it" the eggs will remain, if someone is keeping an eye, then they will appear, and your wrath can be spilled!

What a good idea. Vandalise a car that’s parked directly outside your own home.

Thepurplepig · 29/12/2024 17:32

From your own link:

  • It’s stationary for a significant amount of time (over 4 weeks). If the vehicle is legally parked and roadworthy we will take no further action
SlipDigby · 29/12/2024 17:32

Okonomoyaki · 29/12/2024 17:15

Authorities must decide if a vehicle is abandoned. This is likely if at least one of the following applies:

it has no keeper on DVLA’s database and is untaxed - check vehicle tax online
it’s stationary for a significant amount of time
it’s significantly damaged, run down or unroadworthy, for example has flat tyres, missing wheels or broken windows
it’s burned out
a number plate is missing

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/abandoned-vehicles-council-responsibilities

Our council have removed three from just one road on this basis

Just take a minute to imagine the absolute pandemonium that would unfold if any person could get someone else's vehicle towed by the council just by claiming that it hadn't moved in four weeks.

The original link that you posted said that a vehicle not moving for four weeks is a sign that the vehicle might be abandoned and therefore the council might investigate to see if it meets the council's criteria for abandonment. It does not say that a vehicle not moving for four weeks is sufficient to meet the criteria.

As a minimum the council would need to continue to observe the vehicle over a longer period of time to see if it stays stationary - they can't just act on the say so of a curtain twitcher.

I really don't think any council would try to argue in court that a vehicle not moving for a few weeks amounts to a significant time. Nor indeed explain why it hadn't made reasonable efforts to contact the owner.

Also these are organisations that can barely manage bin collections so I really would ascribe preternatural efficiency when it comes to towing abandoned vehicles.

honeyandbutterontoast · 29/12/2024 17:31

GymBuffMum · 29/12/2024 17:26

Just to add, I’m having surgery on my foot in a few weeks so won’t be able to drive for about 4-6 weeks. We have two cars and a one car drive and I normally park on the road outside our house to leave the drive free for DH as he finishes work late in the evenings. If I couldn’t park there (very unlikely) before I go for my op, I’d have to park it further up the road in front of someone else’s house, and if I didn’t have DH to move my car in front of our house when whoever took that space moved, it would stay there for up to 6 weeks. I’d be doing absolutely nothing wrong!

And that would be absolutely fine, because I’d probably be thinking to myself “that’s the car from number 22 or wherever” which would be super helpful on the occasions where an ambulance/fire truck/delivery can’t get down the road and needs people to move. Because that happens every couple of months here.

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Rosscameasdoody · 29/12/2024 17:31

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Only the police can determine that. You can report a car as suspected as having been abandoned if it hasn’t been moved for 28 days or more. The police will then investigate and remove it if necessary.

Whammyammy · 29/12/2024 17:31

Livelovebehappy · 29/12/2024 17:23

in the meantime, put a note on the windscreen, stuck on with a mixture of flour and butter (makes great temp glue, and is a bugger to get off - just smears everywhere), telling them in future to show consideration to others and not to abandon their car outside someone’s home for weeks.

Yes, vandalise a perfectly legally parked car. It won't be too difficult for the owner to work out who did it, then retaliate. Remember they know where you live and not you them, if you chose this game to play.

toomuchfaff · 29/12/2024 17:30

Dump a box of eggs on it. Cracked and smashed. If no one is "keeping an eye on it" the eggs will remain, if someone is keeping an eye, then they will appear, and your wrath can be spilled!

Rosscameasdoody · 29/12/2024 17:30

Kago2790 · 29/12/2024 17:06

They have as much right to park there as you and if there are no time restrictions they can stay there.

A car can be reported to police if it hasn’t moved for 28 days or more, and if they consider it to have been abandoned they will remove it.

Snapncrackle · 29/12/2024 17:30

Tell the council that you can see fluid under the car 😂 and it’s been there for a few weeks and your worried as it’s not anyone local car

I did this when a neighbour deliberately left his car outside my house ( he was in prison )
the council put a warning note that if it wasn’t moved in 7 days it would be towed

true to there word they came back in seven days and towed it
I took a video 😂😂

GeraldineMoore · 29/12/2024 17:30

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Okonomoyaki · 29/12/2024 17:28

Ablondiebutagoody · 29/12/2024 17:24

@Okonomoyaki
Where does it say 1 month? That's pure conjecture. I wouldn't expect to go on holiday or into hospital or a term at uni or whatever and find that my car had been towed in the meantime, nor would anyone else. It doesn't happen......unless it's a total untaxed wreck, which the one outside OP's house isn't.

Edited

Here, in the first link I shared.

https://www.barnet.gov.uk/roads-and-pavements/abandoned-vehicles

Also Here

https://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/environment/community_safety/abandoned_vehicles.aspx#:~:text=You%20can%20report%20an%20abandoned,if%20it%20is%20significantly%20damaged.

Here
https://www.tameside.gov.uk/abandonedvehicles

Here

https://www.leeds.gov.uk/environmental-health/abandoned-vehicles

How many more do you need? I could go on

Abandoned vehicles

If you suspect a vehicle is abandoned Before you report a vehicle as abandoned, check what the likely signs are first. Then decide if you still want to submit a report. We won't intervene in residential disputes about vehicles outside your property, or...

https://www.barnet.gov.uk/roads-and-pavements/abandoned-vehicles

Zilla1 · 29/12/2024 17:27

If someone is anti social enough to park across two bays then it's a shame their number plate is missing ...

Nanny0gg · 29/12/2024 17:27

Thepurplepig · 29/12/2024 16:52

Stop whining. It is not your parking space. All those suggesting calling the council are out of their minds. The car is taxed and MOTd. It can sit there until otherwise and it’s none of anybodies business.

Buy a house with a drive then you won’t have this problem.

How about you stop being so rude?

GeraldineMoore · 29/12/2024 17:27

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KimberleyClark · 29/12/2024 17:26

What about taking a photo and putting it up on your local Facebook page asking if anyone recognises it?

GymBuffMum · 29/12/2024 17:26

Just to add, I’m having surgery on my foot in a few weeks so won’t be able to drive for about 4-6 weeks. We have two cars and a one car drive and I normally park on the road outside our house to leave the drive free for DH as he finishes work late in the evenings. If I couldn’t park there (very unlikely) before I go for my op, I’d have to park it further up the road in front of someone else’s house, and if I didn’t have DH to move my car in front of our house when whoever took that space moved, it would stay there for up to 6 weeks. I’d be doing absolutely nothing wrong!

Rosscameasdoody · 29/12/2024 17:26

confusednana · 29/12/2024 17:18

the council will do nothing about it unless its causing an obstruction. if the car has a registered keeper, it is deemed to have an owner, if its tax'd and has an MOT then its legally parked. insurance is a grey area, because nothing can really be done about a car not having insurance until its being driven on a highway.. which in this case it is not

insurance is a grey area, because nothing can really be done about a car not having insurance until its being driven on a highway.. which in this case it is not

Nope. It’s an offence to drive and also to park an uninsured car anywhere on a public highway.

honeyandbutterontoast · 29/12/2024 17:24

WombatChocolate · 29/12/2024 17:22

There are 2 different issues.
One is that no-obe owns the space outside their house on public road. Correct. No-one can expect to always be able to park there.
Two is about leaving a vehicle long term on a public road, in one space when parking is limited.

The second is anti-social and usually totally unnecessary. Whilst Op cannot and doesn’t expect to always be able to park outside her house, given it’s a public road with space for parking, it shouldn’t be the case that she can NEEVER get in there either.

Someone coming each day and parking and then moving would be annoying but tough luck. The problem is the car never moves.

After a month it would be totally reasonable to report to police as ‘suspected abandoned’ and they will follow it up. If it’s not abandoned, the owner might then at least move it.

To be honest I don’t think vehicles which n ver move should be left on the road. It should be the case that they come and go. You take your chances with whether you can get parked where you would like to and sometimes might succeed and other times not.

Thank you. You said it much better than I did. Honestly I’m fine with it coming and going but it hasn’t moved at all in that time.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 29/12/2024 17:24

@Okonomoyaki
Where does it say 1 month? That's pure conjecture. I wouldn't expect to go on holiday or into hospital or a term at uni or whatever and find that my car had been towed in the meantime, nor would anyone else. It doesn't happen......unless it's a total untaxed wreck, which the one outside OP's house isn't.

reenon · 29/12/2024 17:23

I get it, it's incredibly frustrating when a car parks on a resident road in such a way that they take up two spaces on the road - and then leave it there for weeks without moving. I think the OP knows that this car has every right to park outside their house but when they are taking up two spaces.... it's very annoying!

Rosscameasdoody · 29/12/2024 17:23

Whammyammy · 29/12/2024 16:26

The car is not parked in YOUR space.
Parking further down the road won't be in ANYONE ELSES space.
Both your car and the car outside your house will be parked in the public highway.

A bit of consideration goes a long way though, no ? OP says they all try to park considerately. Odd that you don’t seem to understand that.

Livelovebehappy · 29/12/2024 17:23

in the meantime, put a note on the windscreen, stuck on with a mixture of flour and butter (makes great temp glue, and is a bugger to get off - just smears everywhere), telling them in future to show consideration to others and not to abandon their car outside someone’s home for weeks.

WombatChocolate · 29/12/2024 17:22

There are 2 different issues.
One is that no-obe owns the space outside their house on public road. Correct. No-one can expect to always be able to park there.
Two is about leaving a vehicle long term on a public road, in one space when parking is limited.

The second is anti-social and usually totally unnecessary. Whilst Op cannot and doesn’t expect to always be able to park outside her house, given it’s a public road with space for parking, it shouldn’t be the case that she can NEEVER get in there either.

Someone coming each day and parking and then moving would be annoying but tough luck. The problem is the car never moves.

After a month it would be totally reasonable to report to police as ‘suspected abandoned’ and they will follow it up. If it’s not abandoned, the owner might then at least move it.

To be honest I don’t think vehicles which n ver move should be left on the road. It should be the case that they come and go. You take your chances with whether you can get parked where you would like to and sometimes might succeed and other times not.