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To want the car to move!

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honeyandbutterontoast · 29/12/2024 16:19

Looking for honest opinions here because I’m aware this may make me seem like an AH.

I live in a road where the majority of houses don’t have drives. We park on the road. I knew that when I bought the house, it’s not permit parking but there is usually space for two small cars in front of my house. It has never been a problem in the time I’ve lived here, occasionally if there’s a local event I’ve had to park up the road for a few hours if I’ve been out, or for an evening.

Four weeks ago I came home from work to find a big car taking up both spaces outside. So I parked elsewhere. The car is still there.

Nobody has been to it, or moved it in that time and frankly I’m getting annoyed. I have to now park a long way from my house (else I’m in someone else’s space), which has been annoying with heavy bags of food shopping, or if I’m going out with the dog/DC. It’s meant if my mum has visited she’s also had to park elsewhere, again not ideal.

But what can I do? No point leaving a note as nobody has been to the car in that time (it’s right outside my window so I would see). None of the neighbours know who it belongs to either. It seems a stupid thing to get stressed about but I just want to be able to park outside my house!

OP posts:
AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells · 31/12/2024 09:40

max29 · 30/12/2024 22:41

I'm a little shocked by this. If the car is taxed and mot'd and parked legally it is lawful to leave their car parked on a public road. Buying a house / property does not give you an automatic right to the public road outside of said property. It's like the stupid people who place cones outside their houses... it's nonsense. You need to prioritise your needs when moving to a property which is why many people pay more for a house with parking, especially in large cities like London. I am a Londoner born and bred and have been in the same position as you .. I had a new baby,
Pram etc and no personal parking space and I hated it and struggled. I moved out of London as I wanted to be able to park on my property as this is important to me. Your sense of entitlement to use a public road as your own personal parking space is frankly ridiculous... I'm sorry but I cannot see a legal or moral argument in your favour. You should rather count yourself lucky you have been able to use a public road for free parking for so long. I am sorry but you either put up with it or move to a property with parking. So in summary yes in my view you are being unreasonable on this occasion.

Exactly. No one owns the street. If you want guaranteed parking then you need to buy a property that comes with parking. If you can’t afford a property that has parking, tough as it sounds, but well that’s just life.

I will move cones (and have done - just the other day in fact!) quite happily so I can legally park my car in a place with no parking restrictions. It’s illegal to leave cones out to save a parking space - it’s classed as unlawfully blocking the public highway. If someone kicked off because I moved their cones I would call 101 and report them.

BettyBardMacDonald · 31/12/2024 09:19

LJH001 · 31/12/2024 09:02

No one owns a parking spot, even one outside your house. If its included on your deeds that's different but as it's street parking I doubt it. If it's that much hassle ask the council to make it permit parking and then pay for the privilege of having a 2nd permit like I have to. Stop moaning about minor issues when there are bigger problems in the world. Youre lucky to have considerate neighbours as ive never lived anywhere that people don't just park wherever they want.

There are other fora for discussion of existential crises.

The OP has been inconvenienced by an abandoned vehicle for more than a month. I don't blame her for seeking advice here.

No one is forced to read this thread.

Mydoglovescheese · 31/12/2024 09:10

This situation used to be a constant problem where I live as we are close to a station and an airport. We had commuters cars parking all day and cars being left while people went on holiday. We (a group of neighbours) asked the council to implement parking restrictions. After consultation with all the residents they were implemented, so now there are two periods of time each day when you need a permit to park. It's completely solved the problem.

LJH001 · 31/12/2024 09:02

No one owns a parking spot, even one outside your house. If its included on your deeds that's different but as it's street parking I doubt it. If it's that much hassle ask the council to make it permit parking and then pay for the privilege of having a 2nd permit like I have to. Stop moaning about minor issues when there are bigger problems in the world. Youre lucky to have considerate neighbours as ive never lived anywhere that people don't just park wherever they want.

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 03:16

Why should you bother thinking about your neighbours and their parking needs as long as you have the parking space you need?

Does that also extend to you parking a few streets away, if you are fit and able-bodied - and you have neighbours who are a couple who both have disabilities and need two cars as they work in different towns, so their need for the space outside your house (as well as the one outside their own home) is clearly greater than yours?

Or do the 'considerate neighbour rules' only apply when they mean that you happen to get what you want?

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 03:10

Obviously, if there are local laws or restrictions, you have to obey them.

However, from all that OP has said, it sounds very clear that it is an unrestricted road with the standard first-come-first-served for anybody with a legal vehicle to use. She just wants special privileges because... well, she thinks that what is convenient for her should be foremost in all other road users' thoughts.

ilovemyspace · 31/12/2024 03:10

@honeyandbutterontoast
I can't help but agree with you

There are some posters here who absolutely disagree with you and take geat delight in pointing out that it's a public highway and anyone can park there.

But I suspect it's because they're the people who don't really care about anyone else as long as they're ok
As long as the letter of the law is being followed, it doesn't matter about anything else.
Why should you bother thinking about your neighbours and their parking needs as long as you have the parking space you need?

We have the same situation on our street.
Neighbours used to park considerately so that everyone could find a space to park ............. until we had neighbours move in who just thought about themselves and where they and their visitors could park without inconveniencing themselves

People seem to have become so much more selfish these days and don't seem to consider anybody else's needs

2O25 · 31/12/2024 03:02

Where I live it depends on the bylaws of the city. My city allows city residents to park for up to two weeks in front a person's house (on a residential street). But you must be a resident of that city. The city next to me only allows people to park for a maximum of 3 hours in front of someone's house and this applies to everyone except the owner of the house. The owner can park for as long as they want. I received a parking violation ticket for parking in front of someone's house for 5 hours (in that city). The police will give you a ticket only if the home owner calls to complain.

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 03:00

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 02:45

That was a response to BlueMonday, btw - MN only works on one browser for me and even that one is so very slow that the 'edit' function had timed out before it could be bothered to fully load for me.

Gah! Sorry, BlueMoanday - I didn't spot that auto-incorrect had done its work there.

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 02:58

Mamabearandcubs · 30/12/2024 21:19

Why would they need naming and shaming, they’ve done nothing wrong.. they’re entitled to park on a street in front of houses if it’s not a permit holder only zone.

This is MN: some folk on here think that people should be shamed/feel ashamed for having a poo in a public/work toilet cubicle - or for ever farting when somebody else could possibly faintly hear it.

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 02:45

That was a response to BlueMonday, btw - MN only works on one browser for me and even that one is so very slow that the 'edit' function had timed out before it could be bothered to fully load for me.

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 02:34

Anybody can complain about anything they want - nobody is stopping them; as long as they only grumble to anybody who will listen and don't waste the valuable time of the police or authorities by vexatiously reporting perfectly normal, legal activity.

Even regularly parking your own car outside your own house is potentially inconveniencing your neighbours - especially if they or their visitors are elderly, disabled, have young children, have large items to take to/from their house, are emergency workers on call etc. and you are fit and able-bodied. They might subjectively need your spot more than you do, so how selfish to just take it every time you pull up and it happens to be free at that moment, eh?

Maybe it's just me, but I personally think it's a lot more sanctimonious to assume that you should have more right to a first-come-first-served public facility than other people, just because you find it convenient - and to complain when you don't get your wishes - than it is to simply use an available public facility without any drama and calmly get on with your day.

FizzyBisto · 31/12/2024 02:21

I can't believe that people are suggesting reporting somebody to the police for parking safely in a legal, unrestricted space. You might as well report somebody for walking on the cracks in the pavement, or report Asda for having sold out of your favourite washing powder! As PP said, this kind of behaviour would soon get you on the council's list of people to watch out for/vexatious complainants/antisocial troublemakers/potentially vulnerable person who might need a visit from social services.

Even going by your own personal 'rules', how can you be so sure that it isn't somebody who's just moved in to a house on the street? Imagine if it were and you'd already employed some of the antisocial (and possibly criminal) behaviour suggested on here: egging the car, smearing butter over the windscreen, letting down the tyres, leaving abusive notes under the wiper... all for your new neighbour, alongside whom you have to live for potentially the next 30 years.

All of that unnecessary unfriendliness and pointless enmity, instead of being a good, considerate neighbour who gets along well with the others - and then, whenever you do come to sell, you end up having to tell all potential buyers of the neighbour dispute if it's led to the natural conclusions that it probably would if you'd already instigated a campaign of harassment.

How would you like it if you happened to be lucky enough to get the space on the public road outside your house and then not move your car for four weeks - gone on holiday, illness, broke and can't afford petrol until payday, only occasionally need your car or whatever - and somebody reported you for 'abandoning' it?

What about people who also don't have drives, but who live on roads with double yellow lines all the way down them? Where do they have a 'moral right' to park? If you had one such road next to your (unrestricted) road, would you make a point of only parking your car outside your house for half the time (or maybe a quarter of the time, if theirs is a long main road with four times as many houses on as yours), and then park elsewhere the rest of the time, so as to leave the space for somebody on that neighbouring road to park in - because you're a kind, considerate neighbour?

It's madness when people invent their own 'laws' based on nothing more than what they reckon 'should' be 'the right thing to do' (which, incidentally, usually benefits themselves), and then seeks to 'enforce' it through antisocial and/or vigilante action.

BlueMoanday · 31/12/2024 01:26

Good grief I've not read a thread with quite so many sanctimonious twats on it in a long time.

We all bloody KNOW she's not entitled to park there. She's only said it about twenty times, ffs.
But it is a constant inconvenience and she's NOT willing to pass that inconvenience on to her neighbours, so it is solely affecting her. She's allowed to complain.

BlueMoanday · 31/12/2024 01:21

Goldengirl123 · 29/12/2024 21:13

The highway is not your personal parking space

Jesus. Ya think??
Op even said that.
Did you even read the bloody thread?

FluDog · 31/12/2024 00:09

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:23

So many of us with no offstreet parking don’t have to live with it though because we have considerate and respectful neighbours.

I don't have off-street parking but the reality is in a lot of streets if every house has a car or two there's just not enough room for everyone to be outside of their own house.

BIossomtoes · 30/12/2024 23:23

FluDog · 30/12/2024 23:15

The road doesn't belong to any single person, outside of your house or not, whether it inconveniences you or not. Unfortunately it's just something you'll have to live with.

So many of us with no offstreet parking don’t have to live with it though because we have considerate and respectful neighbours.

FluDog · 30/12/2024 23:15

The road doesn't belong to any single person, outside of your house or not, whether it inconveniences you or not. Unfortunately it's just something you'll have to live with.

Pussycat22 · 30/12/2024 22:43

Forgottobuymincepies · 29/12/2024 16:23

A4 paper... YOU PARK LIKE A TWAT. very satisfying ime.

Put it in a plastic sleeve though in case it rains and becomes illegible!

max29 · 30/12/2024 22:41

I'm a little shocked by this. If the car is taxed and mot'd and parked legally it is lawful to leave their car parked on a public road. Buying a house / property does not give you an automatic right to the public road outside of said property. It's like the stupid people who place cones outside their houses... it's nonsense. You need to prioritise your needs when moving to a property which is why many people pay more for a house with parking, especially in large cities like London. I am a Londoner born and bred and have been in the same position as you .. I had a new baby,
Pram etc and no personal parking space and I hated it and struggled. I moved out of London as I wanted to be able to park on my property as this is important to me. Your sense of entitlement to use a public road as your own personal parking space is frankly ridiculous... I'm sorry but I cannot see a legal or moral argument in your favour. You should rather count yourself lucky you have been able to use a public road for free parking for so long. I am sorry but you either put up with it or move to a property with parking. So in summary yes in my view you are being unreasonable on this occasion.

Xcxlxn · 30/12/2024 21:51

Oh OP I sympathise, this would irritate me too.
I live on a road with street only parking for all the houses, no one has a drive and I don’t expect to be able to park outside the house all the time, but nothing winds me up more than when people park in the middle of what could be two spaces. Why does one car need half a cars space in-front and behind it?

TwinklySquid · 30/12/2024 21:43

I live near a garage and have had several cars left on my street. It’s a small street that’s awkward to park on due to it being a curved hill at the best of times so if someone dumps a car in the middle of a space, it messes up everyone’s parking.

Ive reported the cars/vans/trucks after 7 days of non-moving. They are always really banged up so they do look dumped. They seem to move quickly after they’ve been reported.

In regards to having to park your car so far, while it’s nice to consider neighbours, if everyone just moved a little bit on no one would be too far away from their car. No one’s owns the part outside of their house if it’s the road.

OCDmama · 30/12/2024 21:43

It's not your parking space.
It's just not. The car might be annoying but it's got as much right to be parked there as your car.

If you want to have your own parking space you need to move. I had on street parking and it was a massive pain the arse, especially with a baby. I moved.

Greaseisnttheword · 30/12/2024 21:29

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Mamabearandcubs · 30/12/2024 21:19

GirlWithTheRedScarf · 29/12/2024 16:29

I can relate OP and sympathise with you. I’m in a similar situation within my street. The parking is a nightmare nowadays.
A random car parked only a few houses up from mine. It sat for days on end. A neighbour took to the local FB page to post about it and asked to whomever it belonged to, to get it shifted. It was gone within the hour!
Try that as naming and shaming the number plate is usually enough to get a car shifted when it is made public 🙂
However, it’s not guaranteed! So please bear this in mind as aside from this, there is not much else you can do!
It might be worth making a police enquiry as previous poster suggested - it may be stolen or it may have more sinister reasons (owner may have passed/went missing)
Good Luck OP!

Why would they need naming and shaming, they’ve done nothing wrong.. they’re entitled to park on a street in front of houses if it’s not a permit holder only zone.

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