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Our comfort chat turned into an ear slitting screaming session

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 14:29

Scream GIF by Originals

Ok admittedly I'm possibly much older than you lot out there, so I might need to call a taxi but here goes.
It's just after Christmas and I live in a tiny village with one coffee shop. We attract loads of families walking on weekends which is fine. But of course the shop is heaving. Again it's OK.
My friend had an awful Christmas day with an adult autistic son, a missing pet cat = son meltdown and she just needed a shoulder. Could not go to either home as hers contains adult son, mine contains old husband watching Wheeler Dealers on full volume.
So we luckily find our usual table and get a coffee ....okaaayyy I had cake as well.
A group of grandparents, parents and a toddler arrive and sit next to us..still OK.

Now I fully understand toddlers are noisy, I get it. But to keep the already overexcited child entertained they then began an interminable game of peek a boo, who's got your nose, piggy toes etc, which then turns a chatty chirping child into a screaming harpy , creating such a noise that no one can speak. My poor friend was almost in tears from the stress.
Eventually I nicely said (yes I can do nice) that while everyone understands children's noise, could they please not add to it by encouraging her.
Seems walkers from the big city find it difficult to take polite requests. Enough said.
So AIBU to just expect a parent not to encouraging loud noise in an already packed out Cafe or us it open season on quiet breaks now.

OP posts:
fuckingidiotseverywhere · 29/12/2024 15:25

OP it reads as though you genuinely believed you had more right to the care space than the "walkers from the big city". You don't, it's a shared public space and they had an equal right to occupy it with their young child. I'd have personally chosen somewhere quieter than a cafe which, by your own admission, was "heaving" on arrival if I knew my friend was in a delicate state. Like my own home, for example, in which I'd have asked my partner to either go out for an hour or two so I could chat to my friend, or at least to turn the TV down for goodness sake!

Anonym00se · 29/12/2024 15:25

People have forgotten how to behave in public. I was raised to be quiet in public, to talk in quiet tones and to try not to draw attention to yourself. A lots of (dare I say) young parents don’t seem to have had the same expectations and feel it’s acceptable to inflict their raucous behaviour on innocent bystanders. It’s a cafe, not the bloody Wacky Warehouse. YANBU.

ObtuseMoose · 29/12/2024 15:25

Jeebus, that gif is awful.

Edenmum2 · 29/12/2024 15:25

Was the toddler literally screaming? Or just excitable?

They're loud little buggers but we were all one once

Beezknees · 29/12/2024 15:24

EmmaMaria · 29/12/2024 15:22

I really don't get this "children are noisy, get over it" approach that so many people have today. I don't expect children to be silent, but I think a modicum of control in public places should not be too much to ask. Winding them up even further is just unreasonable. If I were looking for peace and quiet I probably wouldn't have chosen a cafe, but equally just because you love your little monsters children doesn't mean that we all do.

I'm not a fan of very loud children so it's not that part I'm struggling with, it's that OP had a home they could have gone to if she just asked her husband to turn the telly down, but then expected a public place to be more peaceful?

pinkyredrose · 29/12/2024 15:24

RedHelenB · 29/12/2024 15:18

I think you were rude OP. It's a public space, they were playing with their baby.

Cafés aren't public spaces, they're private spaces that allow customers. The manager should have had a word.

EmmaMaria · 29/12/2024 15:22

I really don't get this "children are noisy, get over it" approach that so many people have today. I don't expect children to be silent, but I think a modicum of control in public places should not be too much to ask. Winding them up even further is just unreasonable. If I were looking for peace and quiet I probably wouldn't have chosen a cafe, but equally just because you love your little monsters children doesn't mean that we all do.

solopanda · 29/12/2024 15:21

Beezknees · 29/12/2024 15:14

I'm struggling to understand why you couldn't ask your husband to be quiet for half an hour but expect strangers to be quiet for you in a public cafe to be honest.

Me too why didn't you tell him to shut up? Why do you reserve that for complete strangers?

Beezknees · 29/12/2024 15:21

Glitchymn1 · 29/12/2024 15:15

This. Have some empathy.

YANBU there should be a children’s area- I wouldn’t want to hear any noise that was so loud it interfered with my enjoyment. This is why I prefer dogs.
I have a child, but we tend not to stay long and she’s very good. Cafes and pubs are boring for children.

Dogs? Not everyone has well behaved dogs. I was on a bus yesterday and there was a barking dog on it that wouldn't shut up.

HelpMeGetThrough · 29/12/2024 15:21

mine contains old husband watching Wheeler Dealers on full volume.

Send him my way. I have 14 years worth in the planner to watch. Admittedly I've already watched most (if not all), but they are like a good book, worth a repeat visit.

Reckon I could change a head gasket after watching that lot.

pinkyredrose · 29/12/2024 15:20

parakeet · 29/12/2024 14:36

If your friend is reduced almost to tears just by a noisy toddler, I suggest you don't go to cafes together in future.

Or the parents making the kid be extra noisy can avoid cafés so that they don't disturb other people.

NewName24 · 29/12/2024 15:19

YABVU.

If you don't want to be around other people, then either stay in your home (presumably you have more than one room in your house, even if your dh can't understand your friend wants a bit of peace?) or go for a walk.

You definitely cannot expect the rest of the world to be silent because yu want some peace and quiet in a public place.

RedHelenB · 29/12/2024 15:18

I think you were rude OP. It's a public space, they were playing with their baby.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 29/12/2024 15:17

I do agree with you, public spaces need to accommodate all and screaming children shouldn't be encouraged to continue, but you can't use your house to see a friend because your husband is watching wheeler dealers on full volume?! That's madness

YesExactlyYes · 29/12/2024 15:16

Ok admittedly I'm possibly much older than you lot out there, so I might need to call a taxi but here goes.

I've seen posts from people in their 80s on here.

YANBU.

NoSquirrels · 29/12/2024 15:16

None of you were in the right.

Cherrypickled · 29/12/2024 15:15

I expect the village cafe owner is glad of the custom from the 'big city incomers' even if you are not very welcoming. No wonder village life has such a bad reputation.

fuckingidiotseverywhere · 29/12/2024 15:15

Beezknees · 29/12/2024 15:14

I'm struggling to understand why you couldn't ask your husband to be quiet for half an hour but expect strangers to be quiet for you in a public cafe to be honest.

Totally this.

Glitchymn1 · 29/12/2024 15:15

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/12/2024 15:05

You didn't read the bit about the poor woman having a dreadful Christmas with a missing pet and a stressed autistic son. Sounds like the noisy cafe was the straw that broke the camel's back.

This. Have some empathy.

YANBU there should be a children’s area- I wouldn’t want to hear any noise that was so loud it interfered with my enjoyment. This is why I prefer dogs.
I have a child, but we tend not to stay long and she’s very good. Cafes and pubs are boring for children.

KilkennyCats · 29/12/2024 15:15

solopanda · 29/12/2024 15:03

It's not their fault she had a noisy Christmas day and they're just as entitled as you to go to the cafe. Sounds like you're sneering at "outsiders". I also hate that gif it's really triggering.

Edited

Nobody’s doubting their entitlement to be in the cafe?
You’ve missed the point by a country mile.

Beezknees · 29/12/2024 15:14

I'm struggling to understand why you couldn't ask your husband to be quiet for half an hour but expect strangers to be quiet for you in a public cafe to be honest.

BobbyBiscuits · 29/12/2024 15:14

I think the way you phrased it sounds a bit off. Like blaming the parents for the games they're playing with the child. A more neutral way to put it would just politely say 'sorry, but could you keep the noise down please'. Not really blaming one, but instructed at the whole group.

Its unfortunate your friend was so upset at the time. If I was you I'd have just invited her to yours and told husband to turn the telly down, while comforting her in a separate room.

baroqueandblue · 29/12/2024 15:14

I voted YABU because that grim scream-in-your-face GIF is intrusive. (And couldn't be more ironic, given your AIBU?)

GetyourheadoutoftheovenIris · 29/12/2024 15:13

If you are too fragile to be out in public then don’t go into public.

Instead of blaming strangers who dared to be in your cafe (I assume that you own it?) why not blame your shitting husband for not turning off his shit tv show or yourself for not thinking that you might come across people when in public.

Merrygoround8 · 29/12/2024 15:10

Expecting any places to be quiet in school holidays is a bit misguided. Yes parents shouldn’t encourage squealing but at least that’s a better sound than “wheeler dealers on full volume” and you enabled that didn’t you: