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Our comfort chat turned into an ear slitting screaming session

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Bridget05 · 29/12/2024 14:29

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Ok admittedly I'm possibly much older than you lot out there, so I might need to call a taxi but here goes.
It's just after Christmas and I live in a tiny village with one coffee shop. We attract loads of families walking on weekends which is fine. But of course the shop is heaving. Again it's OK.
My friend had an awful Christmas day with an adult autistic son, a missing pet cat = son meltdown and she just needed a shoulder. Could not go to either home as hers contains adult son, mine contains old husband watching Wheeler Dealers on full volume.
So we luckily find our usual table and get a coffee ....okaaayyy I had cake as well.
A group of grandparents, parents and a toddler arrive and sit next to us..still OK.

Now I fully understand toddlers are noisy, I get it. But to keep the already overexcited child entertained they then began an interminable game of peek a boo, who's got your nose, piggy toes etc, which then turns a chatty chirping child into a screaming harpy , creating such a noise that no one can speak. My poor friend was almost in tears from the stress.
Eventually I nicely said (yes I can do nice) that while everyone understands children's noise, could they please not add to it by encouraging her.
Seems walkers from the big city find it difficult to take polite requests. Enough said.
So AIBU to just expect a parent not to encouraging loud noise in an already packed out Cafe or us it open season on quiet breaks now.

OP posts:
felicityffinch · 29/12/2024 16:59

I like your style of writing OP. I find no reason to criticise you for any reason whatsoever.
Best to your friend as well.

NovemberMorn · 29/12/2024 16:59

All it takes is a bit of consideration for everyone to have a nice experience.

The OP seemed to be reasonable, the family with kids behaving like little banshees...not so much.

DonningMyHardHat · 29/12/2024 16:58

YABU not to invite friend to yours just because DH wants to watch bloody Wheeler Dealers!

Plastictrees · 29/12/2024 16:56

Spirallingdownwards · 29/12/2024 16:52

The OP's friend was already in a place of oversensitivity having had a bad Christnas due her child's behaviour. The OP has clearly described a situation where they don't like these pesky city folks. I therefore suggest the other family may well have been interacting in a normal way and at a normal noise level but the cafe was not an appropriate venue for the oversensitive friend to find comfort especially when the friend accompanying her already had issues with the other people being there. Would love to have been a fly on the wall to see the true events.

Edited

Indeed.

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 29/12/2024 16:55

Yanbu. There are loads of soft plays with cafes attached which are a far better place to take a bored toddler than a busy cafe. I hate shit like that it's so entitled.

spirit20 · 29/12/2024 16:55

YANBU

Those parents were incredibly inconsiderate. If they choose to be in a public place, then they need to have some level of consideration for people around them and not actively encourage a toddler to scream loudly. If they want to do that, stay at home.

Well done for saying something, I think more and more people need to challenge behaviour like this.

Hiphiphurrayfordishwashers · 29/12/2024 16:54

Hobnobswantshernameback · 29/12/2024 15:46

Oh and OP if anyone has ever told you that you should be an author and have a quirky writing style
they were lying

That’s a rude and unkind comment

Lou670 · 29/12/2024 16:53

Okay so you were there hoping to have a quiet space for your friend as she needed it. You have no idea of the couples circumstances or why they were there as they did not know yours. I am failing to understand how you can expect customers in a cafe to be quiet for you, yet you could not ask your own husband for an hour or two of peace in your own home.

A cafe is just that, a meeting place for all and everyone will have a reason for being there. Only the cafe owner has the right to ask a customer to be quiet should they deem the noise to be unacceptable and not comfortable for other diners.

Imonmyway · 29/12/2024 16:53

fuckingidiotseverywhere · 29/12/2024 15:15

Totally this.

100% this. Also the child was interacting with their fsmily. Better that than sitting on a tablet.

Perhaps you could have got the coffee to go and went a walk and chatted if nowhere in your house was appropriate? Like the kitchen?

fuckingidiotseverywhere · 29/12/2024 16:53

Would love to have been a fly om the wall to see the true events

Same!

Spirallingdownwards · 29/12/2024 16:52

BaubleMania · 29/12/2024 16:43

I'm not sure why this keeps being mentioned, there's a huge difference between allowing a child to cause a ruckus and entertaining them at reasonable noise level.

It's not a choice of screens or parental interaction, it's a choice between interaction appropriate for a given environment and interaction guaranteed to cause children to get overexcited.

But yes, everyone complaining about over-noisy children wants them strapped in a pushchair with a screen inches from their face (with headphones, of course).

The OP's friend was already in a place of oversensitivity having had a bad Christnas due her child's behaviour. The OP has clearly described a situation where they don't like these pesky city folks. I therefore suggest the other family may well have been interacting in a normal way and at a normal noise level but the cafe was not an appropriate venue for the oversensitive friend to find comfort especially when the friend accompanying her already had issues with the other people being there. Would love to have been a fly on the wall to see the true events.

brunettemic · 29/12/2024 16:51

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/12/2024 15:01

Gosh, they sound obnoxious. Why can't they get their coffee and sit outdoors with the noisy kid.

Why can’t OP and her friend who can’t deal with being around people making noise (or so it seems) sit outside or go for a calming walk?

NovemberMorn · 29/12/2024 16:51

loropianalover · 29/12/2024 15:08

Is this real? What’s with the ‘okayyyy I had cake as well’, the weird gif, and ‘yes I can do nice’. I’m surprised there was no ‘Dear Reader..’ 😅

Yes people are noisy in cafes, especially children. This has little to do with them being ‘from the big city’. Maybe just crack on instead of convoluting every interaction you have into cheesy diary entry style posts to put online.

I found the posters style quite amusing.😆

As for her being unreasonable, I don't think so.
Some people need to control their kids when in cafe's and restaurants, we don't all want to go home with a bloody migraine.😣

fuckingidiotseverywhere · 29/12/2024 16:51

Turquoisetinsel · 29/12/2024 16:49

Hmm. I had babies and toddlers for many years.
They’re noisy especially at Christmas.
Now I frequent a builders greasy spoon type establishment for the peace, as not v popular with families. You have to choose your venue if you want a quiet chat I think.

You absolutely do have to choose a venue carefully if you want a quiet "comfort chat" with an upset friend, I completely agree

H0TSUN · 29/12/2024 16:50

You'd also be moaning if they were on an iPad

AndThereSheGoes · 29/12/2024 16:49

Beezknees · 29/12/2024 15:14

I'm struggling to understand why you couldn't ask your husband to be quiet for half an hour but expect strangers to be quiet for you in a public cafe to be honest.

Maybe sending her husband out of the room isn't an option ( my house only has one room downstairs so husband would have to stay in bedroom or go out)

Being in public requires different behaviour to being in your own home. Screaming kids are annoying.

Turquoisetinsel · 29/12/2024 16:49

Hmm. I had babies and toddlers for many years.
They’re noisy especially at Christmas.
Now I frequent a builders greasy spoon type establishment for the peace, as not v popular with families. You have to choose your venue if you want a quiet chat I think.

ExhaustedHousewife · 29/12/2024 16:49

StormingNorman · 29/12/2024 16:44

I don’t think that came across as well as you’d hoped.

I think it was perfect!

Cherrypickled · 29/12/2024 16:45

StormingNorman · 29/12/2024 16:44

I don’t think that came across as well as you’d hoped.

It was spot on.

Porkyporkchop · 29/12/2024 16:45

OP could invite the friend over for coffee at her house and ask her adult dh to turn the TV down .
a noisy cafe is not the place for a heart to heart.

BettyBardMacDonald · 29/12/2024 16:45

Christy135 · 29/12/2024 16:11

Gosh, sit outside with toddler? It’s hardly a Michelin restaurant. The family with the kid didn’t do anything wrong.

Yes, sit outside or in the car. If people want to wind up kids to make them screech and squeal, do it in their own quarters, not within a couple of feet of other people.

StormingNorman · 29/12/2024 16:44

loropianalover · 29/12/2024 15:08

Is this real? What’s with the ‘okayyyy I had cake as well’, the weird gif, and ‘yes I can do nice’. I’m surprised there was no ‘Dear Reader..’ 😅

Yes people are noisy in cafes, especially children. This has little to do with them being ‘from the big city’. Maybe just crack on instead of convoluting every interaction you have into cheesy diary entry style posts to put online.

I don’t think that came across as well as you’d hoped.

Applesonthelawn · 29/12/2024 16:44

People should behave socially when out in public. What the OP's husband does in his own home is more his own business. It's not unreasonable to expect people not to spoil an "out in public" experience for other people. Having loud children does limit your options somewhat.

oakleaffy · 29/12/2024 16:44

Children nowadays have screeches like the train whistle from “ Night of the Demon”

Crotch Goblins!!

PaperSheet · 29/12/2024 16:43

It’s only ever loud people that need allowances made it seems. Loud people can do whatever they want apparently.
I’m autistic and cannot cope with people screaming or very loud unnecessary constant noise. (I’m fine with for example a concert or loud film. I am not fine with thumping music from a neighbour or someone crinkling a water bottle repeatedly or watching videos on loud on the bus etc)

Whenever you get threads about people being loud the responses are always along the lines of: Well they’re allowed out as well! Maybe they have special needs! They might have had a bad day so give them a break! If you don’t like it move or stay home! And so on.

Even a thread on here once about school someone was talking about children using clicking fidget toys and I said if I was at school sitting next to someone clicking and flicking about a toy all day I wouldn’t have coped. I was told I was excluding those with special needs who need fidget toys and if I couldn’t cope I would have needed to be removed from the class. (Which to be fair I would have loved as I much prefer solitary working). But it’s just funny how a diagnosed loud autistic or ADHD person can’t be excluded but a quiet noise sensitive diagnosed autistic person can.

So you pretty much see this in life all the time these days. If someone is making an unreasonable amount of noise you need to be tolerant and remember that maybe they’re having a bad day or maybe they have SEN. If for whatever you’re having a bad day or have SEN and just need a bit of quiet tough shit. You shouldn’t be outside around other people.

In the last 10 years the amount I need to either wear headphones or actually leave a place has increased 10x at least. Years ago people used to at least TRY and not create as much noise as possible. Now it’s accepted that you don’t even bother. Even in the cinema etc.