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To ask guests to pay for air con?

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rubbergloots · 29/12/2024 10:59

We live on a tropical island. Electricity is very very expensive here. The house has floor and ceiling fans which we run. In addition to this, there is also air con in the bedrooms. We never use it as it’s fine with the fans.

It would cost about £15 a night to keep the aircon on in one bedroom. We have guests coming to stay from the UK. AIBU to ask them to pay for air con if they want to use it?

We aren’t charging them to stay in our villa of course. They are not close friends. They have probably saved about £1,000 over the week they are staying here with free accommodation. We are also happy to pay for the maid to clean their room etc.

OP posts:
SimplyReadHead · 03/01/2025 19:05

Absolutely not problem saying “you’re very welcome to use the fans for free. Electricity is extremely expensive here, if you’d like to put the air con on, please could you make a contribution of £15 per night to help us pay for it”.

I can’t see anything wrong with that at all.

Someone has to pay it and if they’ve saved £1000 on accommodation and they have a choice if they want it on or not, then it should be them.

why on earth would you pay it?

healthybychristmas · 03/01/2025 18:46

Btw is that you, A?

healthybychristmas · 03/01/2025 18:45

I think you should charge them for the air con and the cleaner but mainly I think you should've done that before, when you were discussing arrangements.

mezlou84 · 03/01/2025 18:39

As long as they know in advance I can't see why not. That way they can budget it into their holiday funds.

Tiredmum2kids1dog · 29/12/2024 19:39

I think it's fine to charge...just let them know now so they can budget for it

Edenmum2 · 29/12/2024 15:11

rubbergloots · 29/12/2024 11:08

No they’re coming next week. Alternatively, I could just say the aircon is broken!

Do not do this

buttonousmaximous · 29/12/2024 15:11

When use ils cottage we pay cost of electric/gas and cleaning and we are grateful for the bargain!

CurbsideProphet · 29/12/2024 15:07

They aren't close enough friends to just tell them how much it costs to run the air con, so why have them stay in your home?

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 15:04

Fluufer · 29/12/2024 14:54

Aircon is far from standard in most of the tropics. The houses are generally built such that it is close to useless. Where you lived, or your personal homes, were the exception not the rule.
Now I'm wondering if I inadvertently horrified visitors with the provision of a meager fan. Dear me.

Exactly.

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 15:03

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

I beg your pardon? You’re very gauche for someone who is claims to be cosmopolitan. Part of my family is from a tropical country, part is from a Mediterranean country, I’ve lived and stayed in places all over the world. Some places have aircon and some don’t. If it was a dealbreaker for me, I would enquire before booking.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 29/12/2024 15:02

coldcallerbaiter · 29/12/2024 11:55

This must be an island seriously off the beaten track. I have never heard of anywhere in the world with more than 50p per hour electricity.

I have a holiday home and the hints you get to stay are ridiculous. I even had a child sent to ask my child if her family could stay. In fact I could fill a thread with them. Only let very close friends and family stay if you really like them, for free and not often. The rest make an excuse/say no. The only exception is if they have a holiday home somewhere you like, you can swap,

Edited

What is '50p per hour electricity'? Do you mean 50p per kw hour? If so a small 3kw AC unit would use £15 over 10 hours use. If they leave it running all day it would cost OP £36 just for the AC.

iamnotalemon · 29/12/2024 15:02

I live in the Caribbean and surprisingly very few solar panels and the electric is extortionate.

It depends on your financial situation I guess but I think the guests should have been given the heads up long before they booked the holiday.

On the other hand, if this is a second home they are staying in, I think you should suck up the cost and perhaps just ask them to be mindful with the usage - ie not leave it on all day.

DreamW3aver · 29/12/2024 15:00

IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 14:45

You don't think telling OP to take fuses out of aircon so it doesn't work isn't petty, spiteful and miserly?? Why go to that extent? That's ridiculous. What next, removing the plumbing in case they use too much water.

Edited

No, I don't think it's any of those things but then I'm not generally prone to extreme reactions

It's one of a number of options to address the possible issue. We have little information to go on in this situation, the guests may be perfectly happy to pay the additional cost, we don't know, the OP is musing about options.

If water was a costly resource then yes, it would be equally valid to think about how to not incur additional costs when providing someone you aren't close friends with with a free holiday. I don't see anything controversial in that. Most of us don't have unlimited funds to do all the things we might like to

Delatron · 29/12/2024 14:58

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

They are not her family. Regardless of any other opinion. She has not invited her family to stay. She said they are ‘friends that they are not close to’. And we don’t know if they invited themselves or not which does change things. We need clarification from the OP.

Fluufer · 29/12/2024 14:54

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

Aircon is far from standard in most of the tropics. The houses are generally built such that it is close to useless. Where you lived, or your personal homes, were the exception not the rule.
Now I'm wondering if I inadvertently horrified visitors with the provision of a meager fan. Dear me.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 29/12/2024 14:52

coldcallerbaiter · 29/12/2024 11:55

This must be an island seriously off the beaten track. I have never heard of anywhere in the world with more than 50p per hour electricity.

I have a holiday home and the hints you get to stay are ridiculous. I even had a child sent to ask my child if her family could stay. In fact I could fill a thread with them. Only let very close friends and family stay if you really like them, for free and not often. The rest make an excuse/say no. The only exception is if they have a holiday home somewhere you like, you can swap,

Edited

Surely an hourly rate is meaningless without knowing the energy consumption…? I’ve got AC units that are 3Kw, and so at 27 cents an hour peak cost (France) that’s nearly 70p an hour. I can easily imagine that being more on an island.

But I agree when you have more than one home you need to be resolute in standing your ground about visitors. Not so much close and family - I don’t mind them using places if I’m not. It’s the people who are more acquaintances than friends that can be the least backwards in coming forwards. And often, by the time you take into account flights, car hire (they’re definitely not borrowing my car!) it’s often not the cheap holiday they’re expecting!

Having said that, if I’ve invited someone to stay with me I want them to be comfortable, and if we are talking somewhere tropical I think most of us unaccustomed to living in that environment would expect air-con.

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:46

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 14:34

Well then you need to get out more - because many houses worldwide, particularly period houses, don’t have aircon. Some places don’t even bother with fans as nationals are used to the heat.

There’s no obligation to tell them there’s no aircon before they arrive, there’s no obligation to have it.

Edited

Get out more! You're a clown. I've lived in many countries that are classed as tropical or subtropical desert, hence why I think it's a bit of a joke to invite family that live in the UK to come stay then revoke the aircon, which is generally needed for people not used to tropical living, non nationals of a tropical climate.

IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 14:45

DreamW3aver · 29/12/2024 14:31

You must live a very sheltered life if a discussion on someone getting a free holiday but being asked to pay for an expensive resource is nasty, tight and miserable

How low is your bar for horrible 😂

You don't think telling OP to take fuses out of aircon so it doesn't work isn't petty, spiteful and miserly?? Why go to that extent? That's ridiculous. What next, removing the plumbing in case they use too much water.

Delatron · 29/12/2024 14:45

But the OP hasn’t offered to host her family, they are not family or even close friends. So until we know how this trip has come about it’s hard to call whether she is BU or not. It’s definitely a bit late to spring this on them though.

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:34

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:34

Exactly.

BEFORE booking the flight.

Mirabai · 29/12/2024 14:34

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:28

Yes I do, because I wouldn't dream of offering to host my family then a week before arrival tell the no aircon or pat for aircon, on a tropical island.

Well then you need to get out more - because many houses worldwide, particularly period houses, don’t have aircon. Some places don’t even bother with fans as nationals are used to the heat.

There’s no obligation to tell them there’s no aircon before they arrive, there’s no obligation to have it.

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:34

LookItsMeAgain · 29/12/2024 14:25

I voted YANBU but only if you pre-warn them. As they aren't paying to stay in your villa, they can afford to spend on the air-con but you can't land them with the charge as soon as they show up. They need to be made aware of it before they depart.
I would be very angry if someone offered their villa to me (even if they didn't charge for the villa) and then as I was leaving they presented me with a bill for the electricity usage during my stay. I'd want to have been pre-warned and prepared for that.

Exactly.

BusterGonad · 29/12/2024 14:32

ButterCrackers · 29/12/2024 14:07

So when you stay with friends/family instead of at a hotel you don’t consider this a saved hotel cost? How odd.
If they cannot afford the cost of the aircon then they can just tell the host. I agree with the poster who mentions heating costs. If a friend stayed at my place when I was away ( invited or on their own idea) I would say if you increase the heating you’ll have to pay the extra costs. If they didn’t like this they could stay elsewhere and hotels are expensive. If they could not afford the extra then they would have to wear extra clothing which I would provide- shawl, large wrap, slippers etc

Not really because unless I was offered to stay with friends, I probably wouldn't be going to a tropical island. Just like if family visited me where I currently live ( below freezing) I wouldn't then dream of charging them for the heating. I would just presume it was part of the package /hospitality. Like I said maybe the family don't usually spend a lot on holidays so to pay for flights then be told an additional £15 a night to sleep in comfort is asking a lot imo. Transparency is always best, from the beginning.

DreamW3aver · 29/12/2024 14:31

IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 14:28

Goodness, what am I reading? People telling the OP to take the fuse out of the airconditioning, to prevent her guests from using it? What nasty, tight and miserly people! This thread is horrible!

You must live a very sheltered life if a discussion on someone getting a free holiday but being asked to pay for an expensive resource is nasty, tight and miserable

How low is your bar for horrible 😂

IdylicDay · 29/12/2024 14:28

Goodness, what am I reading? People telling the OP to take the fuse out of the airconditioning, to prevent her guests from using it? What nasty, tight and miserly people! This thread is horrible!

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