Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think there is not enough disabled bays for how many badge users there are

313 replies

thecherryfox · 29/12/2024 09:00

I have been disabled my entire life, as a kid and even as a teenager getting access to a disabled space was a lot easier than it is now. I believe now with the intake of how many people can access a badge with many different conditions - the amount of disabled bays have stayed the same but the influx of badge holders have risen.

Between 2021-2022 there was a 25% increase in blue badge holders from the previous year, but there wasn’t a 25% increase in disabled parking spaces. It’s rising each year, but there is no increase in parking spaces.

I’m physically disabled and the difference between me not getting a close space often means I cannot physically go. I know people with ‘hidden’ disabilities like bowel diseases would feel the same about accessing a close space. I’m truly not blaming individuals for getting badges because if they at eligible they are entitled to one - but it’s within the government to know that an increase of blue badge holders should mean an increase of spaces for people to access.

OP posts:
NippyCrab · 29/12/2024 12:06

Fundays12 · 29/12/2024 11:15

Not necessarily it could be they are waiting for that disabled person to return to the car and the pass isn't actually the drivers.

It states in the booklet that if you are driving a disabled person you are not entitled to use the space, you drop the person off and park as normal.

NippyCrab · 29/12/2024 12:03

YADNBU! I have a physical disability along with other broken body issues 😂 and I only use a space if I am majorly struggling with my mobility that day. It annoys me when I make the effort to use a normal space and the disabled spaces are used up by people sitting in their cars waiting on either the driver or passenger to return. That's not what the spaces are for!

Lolypoly14 · 29/12/2024 12:02

I agree with PPs about hospital parking

Our local hospital is awful for parking. It’s bad enough when you’re able bodied, I don’t know how people with disabilities cope if they haven’t got lots of people to help.

They've recently done lots of building work up there and the parking has halved, along with the already limited blue badge parking. There used to be a drop off point outside the main doors, but this has been removed so you can’t even drop someone off and then go and park. The taxi pick up/drop off is quite a distance away from the entrance

My daughter has had a lot of hospital appointments the last couple of years and if DH can’t drop us off or pick us up, we have to arrive an hour before the appointment to park and walk back to the hospital in time for our appointment.

My friend has a lot of appointments with her son who has quite severe and complex disabilities - getting him to appointments is a nightmare and involves a small army

The hospitals response to complaints is to suggest visitors use public transport - which is fine, if you can. The hospitals is slightly out of town so involves changing buses, a lot of this area is rural with 1 bus an hour that stops at 6pm and some areas have no bus service at all.

It’s just rubbish, people with disabilities are struggling to access it. I’m not entirely sure how the plans for the building work were passed

LlynTegid · 29/12/2024 12:01

For the number the OP is referring to, probably not enough. Though I suspect the issue is the number being granted.

youngoldthing · 29/12/2024 11:59

Sheeparelooseagain · 29/12/2024 09:21

"Whenever I go past a lot of spaces seem to have the driver's sitting in them, isn't that an abuse too?"

The driver may not be the blue badge holder.

Exactly.

my father is oxygen dependent and I will often him drive him to the supermarket and wait in the car for him while he puts a lottery ticket on etc. it’s important for him to be near the entrance to lessen the walk.

ButterCrackers · 29/12/2024 11:58

Access is important so would it be an idea to allow blue badge holders who need wide or long access to the car to park across or over two non blue badge two parking spaces? Park over the space line that divides the parking spaces - longways or across. The car could have a sign up that says I need access. Put this in law - and this would increase parking availability right away.

itsgettingweird · 29/12/2024 11:57

Floranan I'm so sorry you've experienced such ignorance.
My ds refuses to use his current wheelchair while we wait for his active user one from wheelchair services for the very reason people can and do use the handles and push it.

His new one has a low back and he'll wear a backpack on him rather than the chair. Also has a fixed base so people don't think they have a right to just fold it up if he sits in a chair etc.

The ignorance of just why taking a space that's designed for someone with a disability affects them is disgusting at best.

ridl14 · 29/12/2024 11:56

lleeggoo · 29/12/2024 11:48

@ridl14

We know someone who has one for PTSD

You don't really get a BB for a condition, it's about needs/ability.

Edited

Yes I think you're right, I googled it after I posted as was curious and it does seem to be about meeting the criteria of extreme difficulty completing journeys etc. That's how she herself describes it though, as for her PTSD but I wouldn't expect someone to go into precise detail like the gov.uk website does

itsgettingweird · 29/12/2024 11:53

ReadyforSpringNow · 29/12/2024 11:00

I've actually wrote to my local council about this many times.. and all l get back is.. we are looking into it.

I get back - we've provided enough by law.

PeppyGreenFinch · 29/12/2024 11:51

My mum has a blue badge. If there are
limited disabled bays and lots of places in the ordinary bays, we will use one of those ordinary bays, so as to leave the disabled bays for those with worse mobility than mum.

Our local high street has just 2 disabled bays for the whole of the high street. (There are some more on the top floor of the shopping centre but the car park is expensive).

I’ve complained to the council but they said they can’t make more disabled bays on the streets.

lleeggoo · 29/12/2024 11:48

@ridl14

We know someone who has one for PTSD

You don't really get a BB for a condition, it's about needs/ability.

Carouselfish · 29/12/2024 11:44

Must be area dependent then. Shops near Welsh border have double the number of parent child ones and are 90% empty.

ridl14 · 29/12/2024 11:21

Floranan · 29/12/2024 09:17

This is just what I was going to say. I need a wheelchair, no wide space and I can’t get out of the car. There are a lot of disability which don’t need that wide space but need to be closer ot makes sense that they have normal width spaces.

but there are also so many people who don’t respect them, able bodied who just don’t want to walk that little bit further. I know I will be shot down for this, but also parents who seeing all the parent ones full use the disabled. I know when you have little ones the wider spaces are so much easier, I’ve had children and so I’m well aware of this. But using a normal sized space is doable with children, for me it’s impossible.

its also people with these bigger cars, they struggle to park them in normal spaces so use the wider parent or disabled ones.

people on the whole are just inconsiderate these days, and with all this talk of racism / mental illness etc they should be more aware of physical disability. I can’t go to the shops in the weeks up to Christmas for the simple reason that I’m not accepted, I have actually been physically pushed away from what I was looking at because the person wanted to see !, he actually took hold of my chair and pushed me to the other side of the aisle! Just so he could get to the meat I went into a full blown panic attack thank god my daughter came back to find me. But that’s moving from the point.

disabled parking needs updating and monitoring

What! That is absolutely disgusting, I'm so sorry that happened to you!

I do think there could be some kind of review of who is able to access blue badges. We know someone who has one for PTSD. I know being able-bodied doesn't mean there isn't a disability there but she's been perfectly able to get herself to parties, weddings, around the country, around large crowds of people etc - makes me think if it's not affecting her ability to drive or socialise, should she really be taking up a space.

Ratfinkstinkypink · 29/12/2024 11:21

Regarding parking on double yellows, when all the BB spaces at our hospital are full (and I often arrive an hour before our appointment to try to park) I end up having to park out on double yellows on a (wide) road outside of the hospital grounds in order to make the appointment. I don't obstruct driveways, make it difficult for emergency vehicles to get past or park too close to junctions, if BB holders are having to park on double yellows we are still not allowed to cause an obstruction.

There are also car parks my vehicle won't fit into because of height restrictions, what should I do then? If I parallel park on the road side I can guarantee some numpty will ignore the large stickers that ask you not to park too close so I can still get to the ramp to get him in and out of the van, putting it on double yellows helps me to keep the rear door free of those who like to park up close and leave me no room for the ramp.

LadyKenya · 29/12/2024 11:21

StormingNorman · 29/12/2024 10:15

YABU. I’m sick of seeing rows of empty disabled bays in otherwise full car parks.

Hmm
Fundays12 · 29/12/2024 11:15

Iwantmyoldnameback · 29/12/2024 09:10

Whenever I go past a lot of spaces seem to have the driver's sitting in them, isn't that an abuse too?

Not necessarily it could be they are waiting for that disabled person to return to the car and the pass isn't actually the drivers.

ReadyforSpringNow · 29/12/2024 11:00

I've actually wrote to my local council about this many times.. and all l get back is.. we are looking into it.

Sharptonguedwoman · 29/12/2024 10:55

Iwantmyoldnameback · 29/12/2024 09:10

Whenever I go past a lot of spaces seem to have the driver's sitting in them, isn't that an abuse too?

Not really. Friend drives disabled person to where they want to go....

lleeggoo · 29/12/2024 10:54

@Iwantmyoldnameback

Whenever I go past a lot of spaces seem to have the driver's sitting in them, isn't that an abuse too?

I sit in the car while DH goes for his appointments, the BB belongs to him and he is the one who needs the space. I'm allowed to wait in the car.

P00hsticks · 29/12/2024 10:54

Livelovebehappy · 29/12/2024 10:18

I get that, but for example, if you park at a supermarket, if you’re caught out with urgency to use a toilet, you’re in the supermarket,with a toilet in there, to go and use. I wouldn’t imagine you rushing to get back to your car quickly is a better option than using the in store toilet? I would imagine the extra two minute walk into the supermarket from your car, as opposed to parking directly outside, is going to impact anything? Access to a toilet is more important I would think than access to your car?

Our local supermarket closed their customer toilets during the covid lockdown and have never reopened them again...

@Pigeonqueen I am guessing yo uare aware of the 'just can't wait' card ?
Just Can’t Wait Cards from Bladder & Bowel UK – Bladder & Bowel UK

maddening · 29/12/2024 10:50

I think that there should be 2 classes of disabled spaces - 1 for the the people who require the extra room and closeness and another for those who need the closeness only. This would mean you could fit extra spaces in.

CarefulN0w · 29/12/2024 10:47

I think the poster upthread who posted about location had a really good point. Our local town has recently opened a new multi-story on the edge of town with a whole floor of disabled spaces, which are usually empty. Meanwhile, the small number of bays in the high street - that are actually useful - are almost fought over. And guess which spaces the I'll only be a minute cheeky non-BB fuckers grab?

It's not good enough to tick a box and say well we have given you 50 blue badge spaces. How many of these spaces are in locations where they are useful to people with disabilities?

Lovelysummerdays · 29/12/2024 10:47

I think it varies, in my small local village disabled bays are often the only ones free. Originally put in for elderly residents who have since died / moved on. Perhaps need is cyclical in smaller places.

Its shocking that hospitals don’t have enough bb parking. Although parking is a nightmare at my local hospital. There is a free car park if you have an appointment but always full. Buses don’t really seem to match up so although you could park and ride you’d have to take a bus to town then a bus to hospital. I feel like a more sensible approach would be run a bus service direct to hospital from park and ride (or at least on a loop) and make more spaces bb and for those with temporary mobility issues.

Moglet4 · 29/12/2024 10:42

P00hsticks · 29/12/2024 09:50

Round here BB holders tend to ignore the disabled spaces in the pay and display car parks (because they aren't exempt from paying) and just park on the double yellow lines on the side roads instead. I know they are allowed to do so, but in certain places where they park it's inconsiderate at best and dangerous at all, stopping emergency vehicles coming through etc....

I agree it’s ridiculous that BB holders can park on double yellow lines - it’s dangerous. FWIW I also don’t think it’s right that BB spots should be free in pay and display either but I do think smaller car parks and multi storey carparks should have more spaces availabe- supermarkets and retail parks, no, they are never full. There’s never enough parent spots provided either - perhaps we should be pushing for places like supermarkets and new build parking facilities to have fewer spots altogether but far wider like in the US

JetskiSkyJumper · 29/12/2024 10:41

Cucumberpickler · 29/12/2024 09:05

There need to be more spaces in general but also different types of disabled spaces so some ‘regular’ with a little more space around that would be suitable for those with hidden disabilities and some that are spacious enough for those in wheelchairs

I agree with this too.

Swipe left for the next trending thread