To ask why women would be uncomfortable with unisex bathrooms

Glad it’s not just me. I thought I was the only who felt wary of this but I am already quite an anxious over thinker!

Please look at my post 23.33 last night which shows why they are dangerous. They may seem safe but they are not.

The young woman I saved had choked on their own vomit - possibly from alcohol - but I would not have seen them in that design of toilet cubicle.

Pubs and clubs are the most common place for drinks to be spiked.

Yes but in a single toilet scenario, the potential shame of being identified as the perpetrator will make most folk think twice about being vile. I hope. Single toilet and you come out after making a mess , you are known to be the "one"

We had an issue when our works place moved into a new building. When it was being build it had 4 individual unisex cubicles, with a toilet and hand basin (including a larger disabled one) all opening directly along a corridor. At a staff meeting we all complained that we wanted separate men’s/ladies etc (workforce about 10% women) including the men who preferred urinals! But no, the management, primarily wfh, with the designers insisted it was the standard now. One lady asked the MD if he’d be happy for his wife and two young daughters to be sharing facilities with 35+ men…..he ignored the question.

All of this. I notice that the fully enclosed ones with walls to the floor tend to end up with corners of the floor/ skirting area uncleaned — and if a man is spraying pee around, that means they will start to smell. Even well-aimed male pee hits the porcelain and creates a fine mist of micro droplets that can cover a surprisingly large area around the cubicle. This is an interesting video showing how quickly male pee can accumulate. Imagine a busy office or cafe loo, with 10+ men using the facilities each hour, and cleaned inadequately by someone on minimum wage each evening. Then you'll understand why male loos smell so bad and why women shouldn't have to put up with it. My German and Danish friends have taught their sons to urinate sitting down.

It's very stressful as a mother to have to eventually send your sons into the men's toilets alone. Despite me never feeding them any horror stories, my boys were always frightened to go in there alone when younger.
Even now that they are young teens I would be wary of them going into a quiet men's toilet and I'll always wait right at the door.

This isn't forcing women to use toilets men are using. All good.

They are always disgusting.
Plus the safety angle if they aren't just a single room off the main room.

This.

Also smell. Men often stray around missing pan.

The kind of man who wants to be in women's toilets is exactly the type of man you really don't want in there.

Went to a pub yesterday that had one huge bathroom, loos on the left had signs on the doors female or unisex, ones on the right had male or unisex on the door. All floor to ceilings with hand basins in. They were really clean and seemed to work very well (despite being incredibly busy) and I felt very comfortable using them.

It's just inappropriate in my opinion. Don't want pervy men in the toilets, and there's plenty of them.

I have lived in Scandinavia for a long time and most of the toilets there are unisex, There are normally rows of cubicles that have a toilet and sink in with floor to ceiling doors. But the toilets are generally very clean and well maintained so it has been fine but in a mixed environment with toilets, urinals and communal sinks I would prefer women only space. Public toilets in the UK have got worse, I went in a pub toilet a few weeks ago and it was filthy so I decided to wait. When I had a bar job as a student I had to ensure the toilets were in a reasonable state as part of my job but many toilets look like staff never clean them.

So therefore nobody has? So selfish and stupid a way of thinking.

I really do not want to do number 3!!! Sounds terrible

In the work place, fine. In pubs and clubs, no thanks.

Toilets should be strictly sex divided. No man should ever a woman's toilet and vice versa. I've known women go into a man's toilet when the women's were busy and this should also be banned.

I would not like to use a unisex toilet myself for many of the reasons above, but I do worry about my son when he is of age. He will one day be expected to use a male toilet as a child and it does make me worry that I won’t be able to go in there to wait for him and I’ll have to wait outside. Men have been known to prey on young males also.

The answer would be to have a unisex toilet in addition to male and female ones, rather than instead of. This would solve a lot of issues for families, carers and also be inclusive of trans/non-binary people. The problem is probably going to be that most already existing businesses/premises don’t have the space for this but it would be great if there could be new building regs put in place for all new build offices and public spaces.

Another thing I have noticed is that the baby change is always in the female toilets, so where is my DH meant to change a nappy if he is out with the baby without me?! I think building regulations need to be updated to this century for everyone’s benefit.

The thing is, even in best case scenarios, it's not great.

In some instances they are not so bad, but even there just one person who makes someone uncomfortable can change that.

And lots of women probably wouldn't be bothered in plenty of circumstances - except when they are. I might not mind at work with a couple of men I know and like, who are sensitive, but I sure as heck mind at night in a bus station with people I don't know, some of whom may appear to be weirdos, drug addicts, or whatever. I know lots of young women who shared washrooms at University and didn't mind at all, but then one guy who you had some kind of uncomfortable moment is there, and it's not ok all of a sudden.

So apart from situations where you can control who has access, like in your home, they just don't really work.

The fully enclosed cubical thing I don't like. It's trying to replicate the kinds of individual washrooms you see in smaller places which are usually unisex, but IMO they are too small, I find them difficult to maneuver in and I'm able bodied. You can't really take a child in, much less an infant in even a small stroller, and they make me really claustrophobic. They can be a bugger to clean as well.

Unisex toilet where I work, often walk in to see seat up and yellow piss on the ceramics and floor,

Gross. 🤮

Men. Fucking entitlement.

The same people who say “but signs on toilet doors won’t stop rapists”! are the same ones who bleat about transwomen needing to be in women’s toilets for their own safety.

So they seem to know that door signs work when it’s men’s safety at stake.

A favourite restaurant has made their toilets unisex. The result is that they now stink. Stink. There is usually piss on the floor and seat. (Also, it was clearly put together by a man and so the mirrors are too high for an average woman). They're down a corridor so as a woman you get the frisson of unease because your safety is compromised, and yet luckily the men have so far looked equally horrified at the sight of us in the loos. No-one likes them, except the type men who get off on making women uncomfortable and so insist upon having those spaces.

I'm not someone who dislikes transwomen or anything - but the ladies toilets are a safe place for women (however they come 🙂) from men and their evil ways 😒

Understandable & as on my post Predictive text disgusted not discusted

You've reminded me of the time a few months ago when I went to use the loo at a very nice cafe and found it was mixed-sex. Opened the door to find three cubicles, one of which was occupied by a man having a pee with the door of his cubicle wide open. He turned round before he'd zipped up, too. I'm a lesbian: I don't want to see dicks at any time.