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To ask why women would be uncomfortable with unisex bathrooms

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Chumssss · 28/12/2024 21:58

Discussion with my DH tonight about this. Am I right in thinking that unisex bathrooms are not great?

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MidnightPatrol · 28/12/2024 22:17

TBH what I hate most is that in unisex toilets so often men wee everywhere with no consideration to the ga t the next person might be wanting to sit down.

Soemtimes in women’s toilets this is a problem, but in unisex toilets it’s every time and often really gross and disgusting to deal with if I want to hygenically use the toilet myself.

Squidlydoo · 28/12/2024 22:17

My workplace has unisex toilets. I HATE it. They are individual toilet “ rooms” with sinks inside (rather than cubicles) so not the worst set up but still grim. Hygiene is awful.

i notice that several of the toilets are very popular for “number twos”. The (mostly) men will often walk to a “quieter” toilet in a different floor for their daily “deed” which is the worst!

in a public toiletsetting with strangers, there would also be the added vulnerability factor which I would hate - this fortunately isn’t an issue at my workplace

when I have been to unisex toilets in buildings with common sink areas I absolutely HATE it!

SwanRivers · 28/12/2024 22:17

Bathroom - No.

Floor to ceiling toilets - Yes.

TreesOfGreen99 · 28/12/2024 22:16

I suffer with claustrophobia and struggle to use any toilet with floor to ceiling doors. At least in a strictly women’s space I can put my bag across the door without necessarily my locking it - not something I can do in a unisex loo.

AmateurNoun · 28/12/2024 22:16

I’m not bothered by them in ‘controlled’ environments, eg our small office has a unisex toilet. 3 floor to ceiling cubicles but shares a sink

They are still not great in this kind of environment. Somebody I work with was prosecuted for voyeurism involving filming women. Fortunately we have single sex toilets at work, but the point is you can't necessarily trust people you work with and someone like that might have done something at work if he'd be given the chance.

DorothyStorm · 28/12/2024 22:16

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Entitled to what? Equal pay? Right to have your own bank account? Right to own your own property? Right not to be sacked for being pregnant? Wanting to go to a public toilet without fear of men or their pee everywhere? Police to investigate domestic abuse? Not to be blamed for a man raping them because they were wearing literally anything?

What are women today feeling so entitled about that you disagree with?

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2024 22:16

There's also the recent case of the schoolboy who apparently left a camera in the unisex bathrooms of a Dundee school.

SallyWD · 28/12/2024 22:16

I have no problem with it.

DancingLions · 28/12/2024 22:15

Why do we have to make space for men? Why is it up to us to argue against something that shouldn't be happening in the first place? No one should have to give their reasons why they don't want it. Its enough to just say no I'm not comfortable with that.

If it's a scenario where there's no choice. For example toilets on planes. Fair enough. But if there are already perfectly adequate mens/women's (or the space for it), why change them to unisex?

LPCrunchie · 28/12/2024 22:14

Unisex toilets are universally awful. I hate that this is now a thing in restaurants.

NecklessMumster · 28/12/2024 22:14

I used a unisex toilet in an arts complex recently. I hadn't realised that the door lock was faulty and a man tried to come in the cubicle thinking it was free. He said 'oh, sorry' and left. But I was surprised by the instant visceral panic reaction I had, if it had been a woman in a single sex loo I'd just have been mildly irritated

ToBeOrNotToBee · 28/12/2024 22:14

The Hunterian museum has mixed sex toilets with floor to ceiling walls and doors.
I was waiting for a loo and was greeted with a man coming out of the cubicle, zipping himself up and piss all over the seat.

It was grim. My dignity and modesty discarded in the name of 'progress'.

WinterCrow · 28/12/2024 22:13

Because I don't want to have to share toilets with the sort of man who wants to share toilets with non-consenting women.

HPandthelastwish · 28/12/2024 22:13

Ignoring the physical safety aspect

Ignoring the increased incidents of cameras being put into unisex toilets for voyeurs.

Ignoring the fact that young girls shouldn't have to walk past random blokes with their penises out.

You have the very basic and added 'ick' of blokes peeing on the toilet seat and floors as they seem to have no issue doing it in their homes I'm sure a good percentage would happily do it in public to get off. Why should a toddler or elderly person who can no longer hover have to sit on that?

The very grim prospect of (if they've actually put San pro bins in the cubicles) some dirty fucker removing used San pro to play out their fantasy.

So no, I'm not down with unisex toilets.

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2024 22:12

Sux2buthen · 28/12/2024 22:04

Only you know your opinion.
If the doors go to the floor and ceiling all good

Unfortunately, no. The person who attempted to rape a little girl in the supermarket bathroom of a town where I used to work shoved her into a cubicle with the intention of assaulting her there.

RebelMoon · 28/12/2024 22:12

Some women can't share these spaces with men for religious reasons

JarvisIsland · 28/12/2024 22:12

I’m not bothered by them in ‘controlled’ environments, eg our small office has a unisex toilet. 3 floor to ceiling cubicles but shares a sink. If there was piss everywhere people would absolutely be called out for it and there is a cleaner daily. We are a team of 14.

Somewhere mass like a shopping mall I’d be less keen. I’m personally not worried by being assaulted or anything like that, but I have done the ‘there’s no queue in the men’s I’ll go in there’ more than once in my life and those places are rank. They stink and are generally a worse condition than the female only toilets so I’d rather not. Mind you, I think in nightclubs and the like even the women’s toilets can be rank, toilet roll and tampons everywhere so I’d probably just try and go somewhere else if I knew I was going somewhere with rank toilets. I’m also lucky in that I can hold it for a reasonable amount of time so would just not go somewhere I didn’t feel safe/clean. I appreciate this isn’t an option for everyone and so for that reason I think truly public toilets should stay single sex.

Motnight · 28/12/2024 22:12

Brightredtulips · 28/12/2024 22:08

I was innone in brixton market. Came out my cubicle and guys were waiting for cubicle. Weren't a threat but God I felt so so uncomfortable and vulnerable. I didn't want my mum or daughter to then go to that toilet.

The Brixton Market toilets last time I was there were awful. Dirty, queues and lots of men.

nocoolnamesleft · 28/12/2024 22:11

Mostly safety. More likely to be assaulted in a mixed sex toilet/changing room. But also dignity. And inclusivity of women of a religious persuasion.

Girthy · 28/12/2024 22:11

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HelenInHeels · 28/12/2024 22:11

MyPithyPoster · 28/12/2024 22:07

There’s very good reason why most toilets aren’t floor to ceiling. When you are having a heart attack, you feel like you need to do a poo. A very disconcerting amount of people to die on the toilet. Some of them in public toilets.

A woman I knew died this way.

DorothyStorm · 28/12/2024 22:10

derbiee · 28/12/2024 22:07

Female toilets are gross i can't imagine men's being any worse

If they have cubicles not sure why the panic

Men’s toilets are beyond disgusting. Go in any unisex toilet at a restaurant after men have been in.

we have a unisex toilet at work and the men do not look back. And they keep moving the sanitary bin out of sitting reach out of their way. Er, no dickhead. It is a shared space, it isnt designed just for your comfort.

MintShaker · 28/12/2024 22:10

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Ponderingwindow · 28/12/2024 22:10

There are multiple unisex bathrooms in my area. The ones that are built new and well-designed are fine. They have been built with privacy, hygiene, and cleaning in mind. They don’t bother me at all.

bathrooms are distinctly different than changing rooms. Those should always be separate.

ApolloandDaphne · 28/12/2024 22:09

I've never had an issue with a unisex bathroom.