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To ask why women would be uncomfortable with unisex bathrooms

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Chumssss · 28/12/2024 21:58

Discussion with my DH tonight about this. Am I right in thinking that unisex bathrooms are not great?

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RobinStrike · 28/12/2024 22:26

Would your husband be happy waiting while women replace tampons and sanitary pads? Have toddlers and buggies in there with their mums? Would you like having to deal with tampons etc with men waiting outside the door?

Cherrypickled · 28/12/2024 22:25

RebelMoon · 28/12/2024 22:23

You can't see the issue? Despite it being pointed out in various posts above?

We need to stand together on this, even those women who don't have an issue with it personally. Some women have valid reasons for not wanting this. Show some solidarity.

I don't stand with anyone just because I'm a woman.

Biroclicker · 28/12/2024 22:25

I was in a womans toilet in a large city train station. A man in a boiler suit was in there and went into a cubicle. He looked like he was fixing stuff, had a tool bag etc.

It quickly became apparent that he was wanking and getting off being in the environment.

It was disgusting. I felt horribly vulnerable and exposed in all senses of the word. I am just so glad I didn't have DD with me.

So no, I don't want to invite men into women's spaces. It's 'not all men' but it's enough of them.

waltzingparrot · 28/12/2024 22:24

Always wee on floor and seat.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 28/12/2024 22:24

I don’t mind single stalls all directly off the main corridor, with a sink inside. In fact I think they’re quite sensible as then no one is unsafe (as men can be a threat to one another as well as to women).

I think we have to normalise men not behaving like feral animals in public toilets - weeing everywhere and generally leaving a mess. I bet they don’t have that problem in Japan!

Cherrypickled · 28/12/2024 22:23

whathaveiforgotten · 28/12/2024 22:22

@Cherrypickled

Plenty of women hover and piss all over the seats.

You think anywhere near as many women do this compared to men? Come off it!

Our ladies toilets at work are rank sometimes.

RebelMoon · 28/12/2024 22:23

Cherrypickled · 28/12/2024 22:19

Plenty of women hover and piss all over the seats. I don't have a problem with unisex toilets. If it's an enclosed cubicle with a sink then I can't see the issue.

You can't see the issue? Despite it being pointed out in various posts above?

We need to stand together on this, even those women who don't have an issue with it personally. Some women have valid reasons for not wanting this. Show some solidarity.

PeriPeriMam · 28/12/2024 22:23
  1. safety 2) dignity 3) go into a variety of men's toilets and inhale deeply
DazedandConfused1234 · 28/12/2024 22:23

I haven't come across too many, but had to use some last week and they were disgusting - smelly, with pee all over the seats and floor. I agree that the women's are often not great, but really nothing like as unpleasant.

RobinStrike · 28/12/2024 22:22

@Chumssss what did you and your husband decide about mixed sex toilets?

FoxInTheForest · 28/12/2024 22:22

And from a normal man's point of view, they don't want to be having to queue for ages because of women taking much longer. Its not beneficial to anyone without a fetish.

whathaveiforgotten · 28/12/2024 22:22

@Cherrypickled

Plenty of women hover and piss all over the seats.

You think anywhere near as many women do this compared to men? Come off it!

PixelatedLunchbox · 28/12/2024 22:21

Men's bathroom reek. Yuck.

whathaveiforgotten · 28/12/2024 22:21

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Could you list a few things you believe women 'these days' in your opinion feel entitled to that they shouldn't?

Holidaywarning · 28/12/2024 22:21

Men inevitably piss on toilet seats / floors in any sort of public toilet. I work in hospitality, and have done for years, the ladies toilets are always way cleaner and fresher.

Cinnabarmotheaten · 28/12/2024 22:21

Why are we wanting to make life worse instead of better? Why aren't we ensuring women and girls are safer not exposed to yet more danger and why on earth do we want to add unnecessary fear and anxiety to daily activities like work, travel, shopping?

I hate unisex toilets for all the reasons mentioned by PPs and feel vulnerable and uneasy in communal unisex toilets,

FoxInTheForest · 28/12/2024 22:21

It would be hugely uncomfortable for many reasons. Wee on the seats, toilet seats left up and wee on the floor from a hygiene aspect.
It would make it far easier for creeps to leave discreet cameras, at quiet times of day it would risk assault or the fear of assault.
When changing sanitary items it would mean men can hear the unwrapping etc which would be especially uncomfortable for teen girls getting used to having periods.
As a slightly less common thing it would remove the safe female only space for women to call for support during an uneasy date or similar if it happened in clubs or pubs.

Cherrypickled · 28/12/2024 22:19

Plenty of women hover and piss all over the seats. I don't have a problem with unisex toilets. If it's an enclosed cubicle with a sink then I can't see the issue.

Zebrashavestripes · 28/12/2024 22:19

Public toilets/ loos. They're not bathrooms.

Rookie93 · 28/12/2024 22:19

Intimidation mainly when in a vulnerable position. Agree not all men are likely to cause fear or behave badly but how do you know? Some spaces should be kept seperate and toilets are one of those spaces in my view. Where I worked made a percentage of the toilets mixed but kept a number separate. When looking at the stats after 18mths men used both types of toilets freely but the majority of women avoided the mixed ones and there were queue for the women only facilities. Workforce was split roughly 75% women 25% men so it was women most impacted by the change.

WearyAuldWumman · 28/12/2024 22:18

SwanRivers · 28/12/2024 22:17

Bathroom - No.

Floor to ceiling toilets - Yes.

It makes little difference if they're floor to ceiling. The new build toilets and refurbished toilets in Scottish schools all have floor to ceiling doors.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/family-and-relationships/parenting/mum-of-traumatised-teen-who-found-hidden-camera-filming-naked-girls-in-dundee-school-blasts-unisex-toilets/ar-AA1wcjb8

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/family-and-relationships/parenting/mum-of-traumatised-teen-who-found-hidden-camera-filming-naked-girls-in-dundee-school-blasts-unisex-toilets/ar-AA1wcjb8

Bodeganights · 28/12/2024 22:18

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Entitled? For wanting single sex spaces?
Are you for real?
Dignity, privacy, safety, the mess that men leave, the men pissing in the toilet with the fucking door open, using the loo with a buggy or wheelchair means leaving the door open so you can see your baby/reach your wheelchair, menstruating, miscarriages, and on and on and on.
And just because we want single sex, if your happy with mixed sex, get yourself into the mens by all means. I will not stop you.

DorothyStorm · 28/12/2024 22:18

The simple answer is have women's toilets and unisex toilets. Get rid of urinals or box them in.

but people dont want that. They want women to suffer.

Tallulahss · 28/12/2024 22:18

It's bad enough dealing with toilet seat left up at home let alone having to touch it in a public toilet!!!!