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To ask why women would be uncomfortable with unisex bathrooms

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Chumssss · 28/12/2024 21:58

Discussion with my DH tonight about this. Am I right in thinking that unisex bathrooms are not great?

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BumHairDontCare · 28/12/2024 22:58

Sux2buthen · 28/12/2024 22:04

Only you know your opinion.
If the doors go to the floor and ceiling all good

It's not all good. Women entering/exiting the cubicle are vulnerable. Easily forced in and trapped.
There have also been cases in mixed sex toilets of women finding hidden cameras.
Men have posted online about their disgusting fetishes including things like leaving semen on handles and rummaging through sanitary bins.

There's literally no reason that women and girls should be forced to share these spaces with men.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 28/12/2024 22:57

curtaintwitcher78 · 28/12/2024 22:39

Whenever you go to the toilet in a small cafe/restaurant where there's only one toilet, it's unisex.
When your friend goes to the toilet in your house, it's unisex.

And that is why the toilets in small cafes/restaurants/airplanes/trains/garages are almost always grim, or at least a little grimier than single sex ladies facilities. Because they are unisex.

Good god, I can't help wondering if all the "I'm fine with it, I don't notice the difference" ever actually leave their house, or if their only experience of a "unisex" toilet is the one in their own home which - I can't believe I need to point this out but apparently I do - is only used by people in their family and immediate social circle, who one would hope treat their/their friend's home with more respect than a lot of men appear to treat public facilities.

ArcheryAnnie · 28/12/2024 22:57

derbiee · 28/12/2024 22:07

Female toilets are gross i can't imagine men's being any worse

If they have cubicles not sure why the panic

Talk to any facilities manager, and they will tell you that they will have to refill the soap and paper towels often in women's loos, and hardly at all in the men's.

Anyway, the many reasons I hate unisex loos include:

Men can be either lazy or creeps and leave the doors open while they pee and shit. I've seem them do this everytime I've been to the unisex loos in Camden Market. Which is ~coincidentally also full of teenage girls.

Women are much more likely to be assaulted in mixed-sex loos.

Women who can't for reasons of religion or trauma share spaces with men are excluded from public life.

Too many men are dirty fuckers and spray the seat and floor.

Judellie · 28/12/2024 22:57

Men in female toilets is creepy and uncomfortable and I now avoid anywhere with mixed sex 'gender neutral' toilets

PyongyangKipperbang · 28/12/2024 22:56

Stop mining MN for your articles.

Flopsy145 · 28/12/2024 22:56

A few reasons, men are on the whole gross and the smell of a mens toilet can often be smelt just walking past the door. Secondly I would not feel comfortable coming across a man in a space like that, especially if I had my young daughter with me. It's a confined space, sometimes just you and one other person in there, and what if that person has bad intentions?
Women need their own space, and I'm talking about biological women. Anyone with a penis should not be sharing that space with women.

DinosaurMunch · 28/12/2024 22:56

RobinStrike · 28/12/2024 22:26

Would your husband be happy waiting while women replace tampons and sanitary pads? Have toddlers and buggies in there with their mums? Would you like having to deal with tampons etc with men waiting outside the door?

I hate unisex toilets...but really?? Changing sanitary wear (behind a closed door)? Toddlers and buggies??? Surely men can cope with these things

Wheresthebeach · 28/12/2024 22:56

They are unsafe for women. A flashers/pervs paradise

foyc · 28/12/2024 22:56

more importantly a place where we can run too if scared and know a women will be there an protect us. They are safe.

When I think back to my school days, when I was having a bad day and needed some space, I went to the toilets. I've had days at work where something has occurred and I needed a little cry, I went to the toilet. Nights out someone has upset me, me and my friends would be straight to the toilets.

There is something about them being a sanctuary, possibly also because I suspect it was a boy/man that upset me in each of those scenarios 😂

Newhi · 28/12/2024 22:56

whathaveiforgotten · 28/12/2024 22:50

This.

Any of us who have worked in bars and restaurants know this.

People saying women's are just as bad need to visit 10-20 male and female public bathrooms and report back. They'd be horrified about how much worse the male ones are, I was genuinely shocked.

What?!! I’ve worked in a lot of pubs and bars and the women’s were horrible! We all used to draw straws not to clean the women’s!!

Littlejellyuk · 28/12/2024 22:55

I don't need to see someone's nob going to pee unless it's my husbands thank you. And even that's a stretch. Jeez 😫

WigglyVonWaggly · 28/12/2024 22:55

Unisex fully enclosed cubicles with floor to ceiling walls - no problem. Use these in lots of restaurants, coffee shops, on trains, planes etc. [edit: no problem except for men pissing all over the floor and seat, obvs].

Unisex toilets without full cubicle walls so men in the next cubicle could look over / under / listen in - not acceptable to me, even if said man identifies as a woman. Too many incidents of filming / men boasting online of their fetishes for hearing women pee etc.

Unisex toilets where cubicles are in an open plan room with mixed sexes using mirrors and sinks etc - not acceptable to me unless there is a toilet attendant in there at all times. I’ve been flashed at in a toilet like this.

Unisex toilet in my own home - obviously acceptable and not the ‘gotcha’ gender activists seem to think it is.

pumpkinpillow · 28/12/2024 22:55

The one in John Lewis yesterday had wee all over the floor.
I threw paper towels on the floor and told the person after me I had done so (didn't want her and her child thinking I'd left it in such a mess).

pumpkinpillow · 28/12/2024 22:54

Mixed loos in the Barbican. No sinks in the cubicle. Not great if you need to clean up menstrual blood.
Smell like pee.
I just felt uncomfortable sharing the open sink space with men.

CrotchetyQuaver · 28/12/2024 22:54

I personally am uncomfortable with them because there's always quite a lot of urine on the floor and I can't "hover" and not tread in it, or even worse get it on the bottom of my trousers 🤢 they also smell bad because of that urine, far worse than women's toilets.

PowerTulle · 28/12/2024 22:54

1 in 4 pregnant women will unfortunately miscarry. Many times this happens (or at least starts) outside of home.

Single sex for women means dignity and privacy and without the additional stress factor of men being present during an extremely difficult, vulnerable and upsetting time. And a cubicle that can be accessed if help is needed is much safer than a sealed unit.

This doesn’t affect men of course and often isn’t talked about openly, so it wouldn’t even occur to them probably.

researchers3 · 28/12/2024 22:52

But I wouldn't use them out of choice.

MancMa · 28/12/2024 22:52

Just no. For so many reasons.

creamsnugjumper · 28/12/2024 22:52

For me personally women's toilets are more than just functional spaces, they are places where on an evening out women bond and more importantly a place where we can run too if scared and know a women will be there an protect us. They are safe.

This comes from me as a scared 22 year old in London with an unwanted man following me and I was able to run to the women's public toilets, he didn't overstep the door and luckily for me there were women inside. He knew sat that I was safe.

If those had been mixed god help me.

researchers3 · 28/12/2024 22:52

I can't think of any good reason TO mix toilets.

Hard no from me.

I'm not opposed to uni sex ones where separate female and male toilets are also supplied.

RamblingEclectic · 28/12/2024 22:52

curtaintwitcher78 · 28/12/2024 22:39

Whenever you go to the toilet in a small cafe/restaurant where there's only one toilet, it's unisex.
When your friend goes to the toilet in your house, it's unisex.

In small establishments, the toilets are nearly always on the main areas or very close to them, are single users with everything contained within them, and privacy is maintained with the clear expectation that one person (or parent with child) will be using it at a time.

That is not the cause for a typical single sex toilet if it's changed into mixed sex, and neither small establishment single toilets nor home toilets can be compared to the concerns of large public toilet or changing areas.

Single user disabled toilets that are put down random halls similarly have risk issues, though they tend to alarm systems inside of them which does mitigate it somewhat.

OhMaria2 · 28/12/2024 22:51

Frowningprovidence · 28/12/2024 22:50

I think taking the toilet out of the equation, I'm not actually keen on sharing enclosed spaces, with only one exit, with strange men. I wouldn't stand in a cupboard in a small room with a couple of cupboards in it, and random men walking in. Drunk men in particular aren't a favourite experience of mine.

I'm not bothered by my work ones, or cafes with one room that opens into a public space.

I love this😅

Meadowfinch · 28/12/2024 22:51

The stench
The lack of hygiene
The lack of privacy
The lack of a safe space
The greatly increased risk of assault

SmolTrashPanda · 28/12/2024 22:51

I don't want to share an isolated, enclosed space with a penis because I'm scared the owner of it might assault me. When penis owners stop using them as weapons against women, I'll gladly reconsider.

OllyBJolly · 28/12/2024 22:51

Don't think I've ever been in a "unisex" toilet that hasn't had pee all over the seat. They are always grubbier than women only loos. (and as my job involves a lot of travel across the country I use a lot of public loos!)