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harlacem0507 · 28/12/2024 18:19

Cut a long story short my husband broke his collarbone 3 days before Christmas playing football. He's got his arm in a sling, in absolute agony, sleeping in a chair and on pain meds. We have 3 children, 10,8 and 18 months. Basically he can't do anything for them especially the baby, he can't pick her up to put her into a highchair, put her down for a nap, get her up from a nap, change her nappy, nothing. Not his fault at all, my issue here is my work. I am a part time nurse on a ward and for the last 3 shifts I've had to go in late (8:30am rather than 7am) or leave early (5pm rather than 7.30pm) all due to the baby needing breakfast/dinner/bedtime etc, during the day his mum or mine help him but it's not always possible as they both work too and I'm not happy asking my 10 year old to do all this extra work. Work are now getting fed up saying I can't keep going in late or leave early as it's leaving the ward short (I totally understand) but unfortunately I have no carers or annual leave left to take and I'm honestly stumped at what to do. My manager said to talk to her next week but has anyone got any experience with this? One nurse told me to go off sick but I'm not the one who's ill, however, I can't manage it all? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

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reesewithoutaspoon · 28/12/2024 21:22

Can you move to nights. You can get them ready for bed before you leave and sort out Mornings until help arrives then go to bed

harlacem0507 · 28/12/2024 21:17

I don't worry when our mum's are there but when I know they have left and I've got say 2 hours til I get home and he's alone with them I do worry in case he needs help but I'm trying to do the right thing by everyone but it's just not working.

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RosesAndHellebores · 28/12/2024 21:17

This is one of the reasons Imdespair of the NHS. It is surely better to have you working shorter hours than not at all. The alternative is you have to be signed off for non work related stress and anxiety. Also you are one if their own, why the heck isn't someone phoning to orthopaedics to make.sure your dh is getting optimal advice to get the family back on its feet so you are back at work asap for the benefit of as many patients as possible.

TY78910 · 28/12/2024 20:57

Have you got any annual leave left? Take 2h each day you need cover at a specific time etc

I don't work for NHS but even though it leaves the ward short etc, that doesn't mean that employees are not people and don't have their own stuff going on. Pretty shit leadership if they can't accommodate later starts / earlier finishes to help you with childcare. Pretty sure there's some ACAS guidance on that somewhere.

I certainly wouldn't leave DH caring for 18m old on his own in the early stages as he may not be able to react fast to baby emergencies. They're like little drunks at that age wobbling about, running in to tables

Thisisnotmyid · 28/12/2024 20:44

You can be signed off by your GP too to look after him. One of my colleagues did it as his wife required surgery and needed him at home (we’re nhs too and on wards)

MumChp · 28/12/2024 20:41

You are not sick so of course you can't call in sick. Your union can advice you on your options.

Of course your 10 yo can do some extra help. She will do fine.

Any friends? Family? Babysitter? Children's friends? Neighbours?

We have helped out then a family in our daughter's class had a situation like yours. Do try to ask around.

avaritablevampire · 28/12/2024 20:37

Carers leave I believe is 5 days paid per year mostly. Check your Trust's annual leave and special leave policy. I think this is very trust dependent, as definitely not the case in some trusts I've worked in.
Talk to your manager / Human Resources. You might be able to negotiate flexible working or unpaid leave. Failing that you ask for unpaid parental leave.

creamsnugjumper · 28/12/2024 20:25

OP this sounds hard, my DS 21 broke his collarbone badly in a ski accident and was in bed unable to even sit up or move for 4 days. He was in agony and still in pain medication 2 weeks later. After x-rays it was bordering on surgery.

All I'd say is it took him a good 5 weeks to be able to drive safely and about 12 weeks to feel stable and able to lift.

So it's a long recovery for sure, so whatever you do is be trying to think long term here.

What is your DHs job? Is there any insurance or income to pay for some help?

Felimscat · 28/12/2024 20:12

I wouldn't go off sick, that can land you in hot water and create bad feeling.

Carers leave I believe is 5 days paid per year mostly. Check your Trust's annual leave and special leave policy.

Parental leave which is unpaid is a statutory right. Check your Trust's policy but make sure it tallies up with what is on www.gov.uk. If it doesn't ask HR why.

Ultimately have the discussion with your line manager and ask for flexibility around shift patterns and put across the urgency of the matter.

Cloudysky81 · 28/12/2024 20:05

You sound very stressed, potentially too stressed to be at work. That would be sick leave.

Also I’ve broken my clavicle, and I was able to do a reasonable amount of my other arm. I appreciate that all fractures are different. Is he taking appropriate analgesia?

Hye000 · 28/12/2024 20:04

I also work in the NHS as a nurse & my partner had an accident recently, I called work and told them I would need carers leave due to the same issues as you are experiencing. They tried to tell me I had to take AL, I stood my ground and was granted carers/parental leave for two weeks. Take as long as you are able to get and worry about the long term when you have to, at least after a week or so you will have a new routine and able to sort out a way of being able to leave your hubby with the kids and what he is able to do

GetyourheadoutoftheovenIris · 28/12/2024 19:59

Speak to your union if you aren’t getting anywhere with your manager

chipsaway · 28/12/2024 19:59

Can u ask your manager to liaise with HR. They may have already. There should be a flexible working policy within each trust so whether you work more days and shorter times or do the extra hours at another time. My trust alllows us to buy annual leave but unfortunately it’s not cheap

Birdseyetrifle · 28/12/2024 19:56

You go off sick with stress for 2 weeks and by then he should be in less pain.

BlueSilverCats · 28/12/2024 19:51

Which would be easier for your DH to manage , especially if you drop some standards? Mornings or evenings?

I'd ask if you could go in late and leave later. Would any of your colleagues be willing adjust their shifts around you as well?

You can do the morning routine, bathe the baby if needed , do breakfast, set everything else up etc. Then your mum or MIL will be around to continue that, is there anything extra they can prep/do? Don't be afraid to ask your 10 yo (and even 8 yo) for help either. Of course, if she's adamant she won't do it you can't force her , but she might be happy to help. Microwave/heat up meals , pass things to him, pick the baby up etc. Also, it won't be the end of the world if you lower standards and some dinners are beans on toast/cereal (even for the baby), or the baby doesn't get a bath every night etc. Main things are safe, clean/changed , fed .

yodog · 28/12/2024 19:42

Just go off sick so your covered. surely whilst your working you'd be super stressed anyway worrying about what's going on at home.

Heyheyitsanotherday · 28/12/2024 19:39

I’d go off sick. Nothing you else you can do. Hopefully it won’t be for too long cx

Starzinsky · 28/12/2024 19:36

Take unpaid leave or find a baby sitter.

Onemoret1me · 28/12/2024 19:35

Could you put in a temporary flexible work request to alter your hours for the next 6 weeks or so (possibly taking reduced pay if you couldn’t fit your normal hours in somewhere) They should consider all flexible work requests

Mountainhowl · 28/12/2024 19:31

Doesn't the NHS have really good leave policies? My mum was on full pay for 6 months then half pay when my dad was dying from cancer

harlacem0507 · 28/12/2024 19:30

Yes unfortunately he can't use his right 'good' arm as it pulls on his left side (he's left handed typical) he has tried to do a few things around the house as he feels so guilty but I can see he's in absolute agony and I can't make him do it. I've never heard of parental leave I'll mention that to her next week.

Yes I was hoping someone here would say the NHS can alter a persons shifts due to unique circumstances like this but this doesn't seem to be so far x

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Coolblur · 28/12/2024 19:25

Can you ask for a temporary change to your working hours while he's physically unable to help? I'm not NHS but I work shifts, this is what I did when DH broke his hand. Dayshifts only is not a 'thing' at my workplace, but It was that or I'd have had to take weeks off to care for DS (about 18 months old at the time).

AndSoFinally · 28/12/2024 19:02

Just to add, parental leave is a statutory right, so you will be allowed it but your employer can ask you to alter dates (although there would be no point in your case)

It's 2 weeks per year per child so you could have 6 weeks. You get a max of 18 weeks per child.

It's unpaid. You could also ask for short notice annual leave if you have any left.

Or you can take sick leave due to the stress of the situation, but that's not ideal and would be a bit of a stretch

Your manager is likely to be somewhat pragmatic as you'll have to be off one way or another if you don't have any other options so they may as well help you out

Whaleandsnail6 · 28/12/2024 18:53

I think hes just going to have to muddle as much as he can, even if that means help from other kids and doing things not as usual eg not using high chair, lo missing baths ect. This level of pain shouldn't stay this high for too long so hopefully he will be able to manage one handed in a week or so to do more things.

Either that or you will have to have a chat with manager about either going off sick or taking parental leave. You dont really have an option if dh really cant manage and you leaving early/coming in late is causing staffing issues, you cant be in 2 places at once!

QuestionableMouse · 28/12/2024 18:43

saltinesandcoffeecups · 28/12/2024 18:38

I’m assuming pain is a big factor here. I’ve never had one but have known a few people who have broken their collarbone… it’s agony by all accounts

It really is! I had a lifting restriction too. Can't remember what it was exactly but I wasn't allowed to life anything (with either arm)

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