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DM ranting and raving doing my head in - how to cope!!

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YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 14:29

Hi MN long time lurker first time poster.

My AIBU is: am I being impatient or is my DM out of order?

Currently living at home for financial reasons (I am a mid 20s mature student), but I am seriously struggling to cope over the Xmas period. I have really important exams in January and I am just so on edge with DM’s incessant ranting! I have had three hours this morning of her foul mood, she has been non stop swearing and ranting about X/Y/Z her DH (my dad) has done, absolutely nothing I say is helping. This is fairly normal behaviour from her but after more than 20 years living with this I’ve had enough!!!!

DM normally works FT from home and I cannot even enter her office to ask her if she wants a cup of tea when she is working without her biting my head off for example. She’s been off over Christmas and she is absolutely doing my head in.

Yet she is constantly interrupting me both accidentally with her shouting about eg state of the house (nothing I’ve done, I’m tidy she acknowledges this) and deliberately (doing nice things like making me food etc that I haven’t asked for which is lovely but I’m a grown adult and would prefer to be undisturbed and make my own lunch when I’m ready!!).

Her marriage to my DF is in pieces and has been for ten years. I am generally sympathetic but after every single day of the same complaints whilst I am genuinely really busy, it is seriously grating on me. I am struggling to bite my tongue with her at the moment.

I do so much stuff around the house to make her life easier, going to shops for her, driving her around (she’s recently developed anxiety which is making things worse). She doesn’t want to go and see friends despite invites, and I think her being FT working from home is isolating her. These are things I’ve expressed to her multiple times but it’s never well received.

How can I support her while also not driving myself insane?? If you were my DM who’s in her mid fifties, what would you want me as a DD to suggest/do to help? I do try but I’m struggling at the moment.

Thank you, I look forward to reading suggestions ❤️

OP posts:
MILLYmo0se · 28/12/2024 16:08

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 16:03

Yes, sorry to drip feed but @MILLYmo0se you're pretty much spot on. Alcohol issues more on dad than her but both have an unhealthy relationship with it. History of DA throughout late childhood early teens. That has since subsided since DF had a good kicking from me at about 15 (not promoting violence but he is lots bigger than DM and me but I am well built lol). DM has a stressful job for her but IMHO it isn’t really that stressful, it is hardly life and death - she seriously lacks the ability to regulate and I suspect she is neurodivergent (as am I).
As a teen I never left the house as the DA was so bad I liked to be around in the evenings. She can’t leave him again for financial reasons, we have pets and she couldn’t afford to buy anywhere else. They have their own personal reasons for staying married but again, it is beyond me but life is more complicated at 55 than 25!! He has taken a lot of the equity from the house and she has had no choice but to sign to agree to this. She is scared of him. But she equally doesn’t help herself. I’m conflicted about the whole situation to be honest. Thanks for your understanding!

Oh dear what a mess. I know you are kind of stuck in an emotional sense because you fear how things will go if you leave, but at the v least would you consider counselling for yourself? You need some support to, you can't carry the whole shitshow on your shoulders, and see if your mam would talk to a GP, maybe she d go for counselling if she s sees you going?
Ideally yes you d move out and build your own life, but you aren't at the point where you can see yourself doing that yet, but getting some space and support to sort your own head out would help in both the short and long term

TwinklyAmberOrca · 28/12/2024 16:04

Is your mum getting any help with menopause? Lots of the things you list could easily be attributed to the menopause and could also be the cause of the marriage deterioration. Snapping at everyone, short tempered, forgetting you're working and interrupting etc...

I remember having to walk on eggshells around my mum when she was in her 50s...

I'd suggest a visit to the GP for her.

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 16:03

Yes, sorry to drip feed but @MILLYmo0se you're pretty much spot on. Alcohol issues more on dad than her but both have an unhealthy relationship with it. History of DA throughout late childhood early teens. That has since subsided since DF had a good kicking from me at about 15 (not promoting violence but he is lots bigger than DM and me but I am well built lol). DM has a stressful job for her but IMHO it isn’t really that stressful, it is hardly life and death - she seriously lacks the ability to regulate and I suspect she is neurodivergent (as am I).
As a teen I never left the house as the DA was so bad I liked to be around in the evenings. She can’t leave him again for financial reasons, we have pets and she couldn’t afford to buy anywhere else. They have their own personal reasons for staying married but again, it is beyond me but life is more complicated at 55 than 25!! He has taken a lot of the equity from the house and she has had no choice but to sign to agree to this. She is scared of him. But she equally doesn’t help herself. I’m conflicted about the whole situation to be honest. Thanks for your understanding!

OP posts:
MindTheAbyss · 28/12/2024 16:01

You mention a history of alcoholism in your family, OP. I think you might find the answer to some of your troubles in the Al Anon programme. You can attend meetings online if there aren’t any local to you.

almondflake · 28/12/2024 15:58

You're a lovely daughter trying to help your mum , depending on mums age could she possibly be in peri menopause ?
I was very much the same as your mum , I felt uncontrollable anger and rage about absolutely nothing and the closest person copped it .
Your mum really doesn't mean it and probably when she's in her right mind because if it's peri then she's not she will feel absolutely awful .
Does your mum have a sister or friend that you could talk about this with that may be able to help ?
I do think that your mum needs to speak to someone as she's obviously very unhappy and you as lovely as you are can't fix her .
Sending big hugs to you both 😊

Purplebunnie · 28/12/2024 15:58

You've said she doesn't like being interrupted when she's working when you offer to make her a tea which is a nice thing to do but then you've said you don't like being interrupted when she offers to make you food which is a nice thing to do. You both need to respect each other's preferences.

Do you have a WhatsApp group. Set one up for just you and her and WhatsApp her and ask if she wants a tea, she can't bite your head off then. Ask her to do the same regarding making you food. It takes the urgency out of responding

nodogz · 28/12/2024 15:58

@AnnaMagnani has it OP. Learn it now or learn it in 1/5/10/20/30 years.

You can get your arse handed to you on Mumsnet but it's always very much well-meaning, honest and astutely observed arse-handing!

Hiddle1976 · 28/12/2024 15:56

"I am the rock of this family and have been since I was about 9 years old. I just don’t have any money!
thanks for your unwarranted opinions on my relationship with my DM!"

Sort out your finances and be a rock for yourself.

MILLYmo0se · 28/12/2024 15:53

Oh OP there is a Lot there for both you and your mum to deal with..... Is your dad abusive? Is there good reason for her to be ranting at/about him for her hours, or is it her own emotional regulation that's the issue? It does sound like whatever is going on menopause could have worsened matters given her moods and developing anxiety. Would she see a GP for a chat?
In the short term stay out of her office, and get noise cancelling headphones

AnnaMagnani · 28/12/2024 15:52

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 15:46

Revealing of what sorry?

It reveals you have a parentification relationship with your Mum. Instead of her being the adult and you being the child, you have assumed responsibility for ensuring the happiness of the adults.

It's in your posts now where you are of an age to leave home, are geographically isolated, the environment at home is miserable due to your parents but the only solution you are prepared to consider is you working harder to support your parents.

Suzuki76 · 28/12/2024 15:49

History of domestic abuse? Are you staying to protect your mum? That way lies madness.

Edit - and it won't be any different at home just because you've saved a house deposit so...

Balancedcitizen101 · 28/12/2024 15:49

It sounds like the struggling marriage / bad behaviour from your dad (no offence obviously) is underpinning her attitude and resilience. Maybe her job is stressful as well, who knows. I would try to suggest something for the marriage like counselling, IDAS service, or divorce options, or confronting dad about some of the behaviours he does. Pick whichever seems the most appropriate of the above. Good luck.

DreadPirateRobots · 28/12/2024 15:48

I am the rock of this family and have been since I was about 9 years old

...that is so very wrong. Seriously, OP, do you hear yourself? Your family of origin are doing bad things to your emotional health and will continue to for as long as you live with them.

SnoopySantaPaws · 28/12/2024 15:48

Ok I'm roughly your Mums age & you're the age my gid daughter was when she was last living with me.

how do you get on with your Dad, is he ok, or does he really need to step up?

I think when your Mum is working or you are studying you need to agree on some ground rules. Do either of you want to asked if you want a drink/lunch pronouns to be left alone? If you want to be left alone, NO whinging about the other person not making you drinks/lunch.

are you trying to study in a communal area? Sounds like it. Can you not study in your room with your door closed??

can you not plan a time to do something together at a certain time each day? Play a game or watch a program, go for a walk, cook together? Just so there's a time she knows she'll get to talk to you??

hold back on the 'advice' & chirpy positive 'lifes great' stuff. Accept your outlook on life changes as you get older & some 20something being all 'blah blah I know better' can be very patronising.

RabbitsEatPancakes · 28/12/2024 15:48

Also could she be menopausal and in need of some HRT?

RabbitsEatPancakes · 28/12/2024 15:47

Maybe just leave her alone whilst shes working and then ask her to do the same with you?
It's not clear if she's actually disturbing your studying- just go to your room, shut door, put on NC headphones. Are you trying to study in communal areas?
20 minutes to be out of the house for the day is not much at all- could you pick 2 days a week when you go out to give her some space and time to decompress?

She sounds very stressed and potentially depressed, maybe ask if there's anything you can do without her needing to tell you that will lighten her load.

What is your dad doing that'd so problematic? Why haven't they divorced?

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 15:46

Butchyrestingface · 28/12/2024 15:45

That post is really quite revealing, OP.

Revealing of what sorry?

OP posts:
AnnaMagnani · 28/12/2024 15:45

It's really inappropriate for a 9 yr old to be the rock of a family.

Your DM doesn't need support, she needs a divorce from your DF. The more she has you to 'support' her, the longer she can avoid addressing her own issues.

Butchyrestingface · 28/12/2024 15:45

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 15:39

Everyone who has told me to just move out! Neither me nor my mum want that, it’s not feasible for an absolute plethora of reasons!!
I posted on here to get this off my chest, and see if anybody could help me help my mum without also going insane myself. So sarky replies “it’s not that bad if you’re staying” “stress of an adult child under her roof” are absolutely unfounded. I am not a typical MN boomerang “child”, I am the rock of this family and have been since I was about 9 years old. I just don’t have any money!
thanks for your unwarranted opinions on my relationship with my DM!

And also; I know hundreds of people my own age who I see often, have a lovely boyfriend who I’m looking to buy with in a few years! Hence I’m not going off to a random social housing flat share!!

Thank you to those who have offered reasonable advice and opinions.

Edited

That post is really quite revealing, OP.

smooththecat · 28/12/2024 15:41

When I was this age and my mum was that age I remember her screaming the house down. It was bloody awful.

loveawineloveacrisp · 28/12/2024 15:40

Hiddle1976 · 28/12/2024 15:24

Move out, your mum is probably struggling with menopause, in an unhappy marriage, a stressful job and still feeling responsible for an adult child under her roof.

100%

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 15:39

Everyone who has told me to just move out! Neither me nor my mum want that, it’s not feasible for an absolute plethora of reasons!!
I posted on here to get this off my chest, and see if anybody could help me help my mum without also going insane myself. So sarky replies “it’s not that bad if you’re staying” “stress of an adult child under her roof” are absolutely unfounded. I am not a typical MN boomerang “child”, I am the rock of this family and have been since I was about 9 years old. I just don’t have any money!
thanks for your unwarranted opinions on my relationship with my DM!

And also; I know hundreds of people my own age who I see often, have a lovely boyfriend who I’m looking to buy with in a few years! Hence I’m not going off to a random social housing flat share!!

Thank you to those who have offered reasonable advice and opinions.

OP posts:
Beamur · 28/12/2024 15:37

Do you actually want to hear your Dad being moaned about for hours?
This is enmeshed behaviour and isn't actually very healthy.
I'd suggest you probably need to put in some boundaries rather than look to support her further. She needs to build better coping mechanisms than offloading onto you. Perpetual rumination isn't going to help her.

Bababear987 · 28/12/2024 15:36

I totally get buying a property is your main priority but actually you will get invaluable experience and probably meet a lot of friends and have some fun by getting out on your own.
This sounds like such an unhealthy relationship you have and I really cant see it changing unless you make a big change. It doesnt sound like anyone is happy

BumpyaDaisyevna · 28/12/2024 15:35

YourPunnyCat · 28/12/2024 14:38

Hi, thanks for the reply! I live rurally so getting out would involve 20 mins drive each way which IMHO would be a massive waste of time, plus all my stuff is at home that I need for studying!! But thank you!!🙏🏻
I am also not looking to move out before buying a house for myself to live in (alone!). If I am having to live with housemates I’d rather stay put. I am very fortunate that my parents don’t charge me rent. But thank you for the suggestions it is helpful!

I am sure that from your perspective it is a good option, to live at home.

But perhaps it's not such a good option from your mother's perspective.

It's probably about time your relationship moved onto a new stage. I think that would be difficult to do if you are still living at home.

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