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To feel like people assume if you're wealthy, successful etc people assume you can't have problems?

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MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 12:20

I had a very challenging childhood, NC with parents, suffer from depression for which I take medication for. Most people will respond to this with sympathy and kindness if they don't know anything else.

If people know I'm an attractive multimillionaire who married another attractive multimillionaire? Entitled, detached, you have no real problems etc. They don't always say it to your face but they regularly say it behind your back, and they don't realise they are no less privileged if they compare themselves to those in the developing world i.e. most people.

One of my closest friends is even wealthier but came from a very elite background and had it far worse yet gets even less sympathy because she was born rich and she obviously isn't going to go around explaining the painful details. You can tell it bothers her as well.

AIBU?
Edit: sorry about the poorly worded title.

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RobertaFirmino · 28/12/2024 13:15

Being a football supporter, I often read reports of racist abuse towards the players on social media. These reports invariably attract comments like 'Well why is he bothered, he's got millions'. As if it's ok to be racist if the subject of your bigotry has a few quid. Or that a healthy bank balance stops it from being hurtful.

Cookiecrumblepie · 28/12/2024 13:15

OP give me your money and I’ll give you my sympathy! The Queen understood when she said “don’t complain, don’t explain”. People don’t give a shit about wealthy people. Buy a handbag and just get on with it, and if it really bothers you, give your money away. Problem solved.

Anothernameonthewall · 28/12/2024 13:14

I can see your point and I agree that wealth shouldn't negate suffering you have experienced.

However, wealth would quite often be an answer to a lot of ppls problems. It would immediately fix the horrific medical situation I'm in and I say that as the wife of a consultant. The NHS is broken and whilst I'm supporting someone trying to hold it together at the seams, I am suffering due to lack of adult competent care. Anyway, rant over! I think what I'm trying to say is that when wealth is what is needed to solve a lot of problems, then people can only be so sympathetic to those who have it. But, like I said, I agree that's not fair on you. Just like it's not fair on me (or others) that we don't have the means to fix our problems.

MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 13:14

Wendolino · 28/12/2024 13:10

I understand what you mean. I worked with a lovely person who on the surface, had it all. Happy marriage, lovely children, great job with an excellent salary. He also suffered from severe clinical depression, for which he had to take periods of sick leave. Many times I heard "What's he got to be fed up about?"

I've heard this all myself growing up and in the same situation you are very aware of people saying stuff like this.

It's almost like people want you to be doing well but once you get to a certain level of success they're just waiting for you to fail.

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spoonfulofsugar1 · 28/12/2024 13:13

MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 12:32

I grew up in poverty and have had NC with parents since 18 so obviously I know what it is like to be poor.

I personally found it extremely easy to escape poverty vs trauma of childhood abuse though I am not the one going around judging people for struggling to escape poverty, I know everyone has different luck, capability etc and that it is difficult for many.

I think you are being extremely harsh towards my friend and I don't want to post the details here but many people who experienced the same things would be completely dysfunctional or have taken their own lives.

Edited

The point is that you are in a much better position than most people. If you look at the hierarchy of needs, people are struggling right now with the basics of human need i.e. heating, food, shelter, clothing... so you are already in a fortunate position of not having to worry about those very basics.
Also you've spoken about your childhood trauma. Thats the same for thousands of people who don't have the luxury of being able to give up work, pay for therapy, move where they want. People don't have much sympathy for multi millionaires because generally speaking, their lives are easier.
I wonder if there is a slight amount of naval gazing going on here, simply because you don't have the worries of thr majority of the population.
I have said from the off that you can have problems, but its slightly off putting to start a thread asking why you don't get sympathy when this site is so full of people struggling with the absolute basics of getting by.

ItsCalledAConversation · 28/12/2024 13:12

All problems are relative and money is only one factor. There will always be someone richer than you, and always someone poorer, always someone happier and always someone more mentally unwell.

Of course you, like everyone, deserve to be treated with empathy OP, I wonder about the humanity of some of the (jealous) people on this thread.

Wendolino · 28/12/2024 13:10

I understand what you mean. I worked with a lovely person who on the surface, had it all. Happy marriage, lovely children, great job with an excellent salary. He also suffered from severe clinical depression, for which he had to take periods of sick leave. Many times I heard "What's he got to be fed up about?"

Hoppinggreen · 28/12/2024 13:09

I had a shitty childhood and do have some problems now BUT what I don't have are problems easily fixed by money.
You could have had a shit childhood and be broke and having a shit life now, thats the reality for a lot of people
Maybe work on your self awareness rather than your self pity

ComtesseDeSpair · 28/12/2024 13:07

You seem focussed a lot on “people” and what “people” assume about you, and what “the public” thinks about famous people’s mental health. It doesn’t matter who you are, the reality is that anyone beyond your inner circle of immediate family and close friends won’t really be motivated in any significant way to look more deeply into you or care at all about your problems. That people more widely don’t is the case for pretty much everyone - nobody is of much interest or concern to those but their nearest and dearest. What does it matter if an acquaintance doesn’t realise you have inner struggles which money can’t fix, or strangers don’t have sympathy for you about your childhood? Why do you need them to? Whatever anyone’s level of wealth and type of struggle, the broader world isn’t invested in it, and very wealthy people aren’t an exception to that.

Nothatgingerpirate · 28/12/2024 13:06

spoonfulofsugar1 · 28/12/2024 12:24

You can have problems, but they arent to the extent of worrying about feeding your children or keeping the house warm. The basics of living. Money does mean that many of your problems can be solved?
And its absolutely tone deaf of you and yout friend to be bothered that you don't get sympathy.

This is probably true.
I get the OP.
Everyone has a different life with different problems, of course they would be tone deaf to worrying about feeding kids or keeping house warm, not necessarily on purpose.
My husband, who came to this world very well off, still doesn't think these things are a real problem in real life.
He's 75.

LoveSandbanks · 28/12/2024 13:05

MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 12:26

There is no freedom or escape if your mind is completely fucked, which mine is.

It's different to financial poverty but no less awful.

Plenty of people have minds that are completely fucked but also live in a shitty high rise with mould up the walls.

I had a significant breakdown in 2017. Was suicidal with a plan and a back up. At the time we were fortunate to have private health insurance through dh’s job and I was able to access excellent psychiatric care and a psychotherapy at The Priory.

nobody is saying you’re not deserving of sympathy but that none of your problems are unique to having money and that poor people have the same problems but not the options you have.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 28/12/2024 13:05

I'm sure you are right that some people are dismissive of the very idea that rich people can have problems (despite the regular reporting of mental health problems, addiction and even suicide attempts amongst celebs) but not everyone thinks that. There's always someone somewhere having a go at someone else! I don't think that at all.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 28/12/2024 13:04

Annabella92 · 28/12/2024 12:33

I'm sure your mind isn't. Your wealth will ensure you are well insulated from the worst outcomes of poor mental health. Sympathy won't heal you or fix anything. You have choices which could improve your state of mind.

That's unbelievably tone deaf and not true. You can't completely buy yourself out of poor MH. What is the worst outcome - suicide? That doesn't affect rich people?

stripeystripedstripes · 28/12/2024 13:04

I hear you, OP. No amount of money can buy the things you already missed out on and can never have. I really hear you.

Purgepossessions2025 · 28/12/2024 13:03

The rich version of you now is easier than being the poor version of you now.

There is a grotesqueness about your posts and I am not sure why I have had this reaction to your posts. Sometimes people react in a way that is beyond your and their own control. Don’t let it affect your life.

DazedAndConfused321 · 28/12/2024 13:02

The passive-aggressive jealous comments get old really quick. People love to be martyrs and use their poor finances to excuse being shit to people in better positions

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 28/12/2024 13:01

Fluufer · 28/12/2024 12:55

Anyone can have problems. Money makes them much easier to deal with.

My great aunt was pregnant at the same time as my grandma. My grandma had my mum and my great aunt had a stillborn son. She was never able to have another child.
Her wealth never made that any less painful.

MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 13:01

BusyPoster · 28/12/2024 12:50

I’m rich and have problems and of course money helps.

My DS has a medical condition, our private health won’t cover it any more so I stayed with the consultant and paid, it wasn’t a thing. It took away the worry of waiting months for him to be seen, I still have the problem but it’s not as bad as it could be.

Obviously it helps, but it isn't the absolute key for happiness like a lot of people believe.

I'd guess reality is that
Health > Family > Money

yet everyone seems to act like
Money >>>>> Health/Family

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BobbyBiscuits · 28/12/2024 13:01

I'd imagine people do think that attractive multimillionaires generally have less to moan about than physically repellent benefits claimants. But the truth is people are envious of others and simply think their own problems are more important than other people's. As a lot of people's issues probably stem from money then you can see why they might think that you wouldn't be suffering in that regard.
A decent friend would make sure to try and be supportive no matter what though.

MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 13:00

Comedycook · 28/12/2024 12:50

I wonder if because we live in such a superficial, materialistic society, that contributes to the attitude of assuming as long as you have money, you're fine.

I think this is a lot of it. Most people (though they won't admit it) clearly think money = everything and therefore having lots of money = living a dream life even if everything else in your life is awful.

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MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 12:58

DoAWheelie · 28/12/2024 12:45

Obviously you have problems, everyone does. But you have the ability to buy solutions that a poor person doesn't.

Every problem I have could be solved by money. I'm trapped in the house all the time because I can't afford a new wheelchair. My allergies flare up because I can't physically keep the house clean enough to keep away dust mites but I can't afford a cleaner. I can't make fresh healthy food as my wheelchair doesn't fit in the kitchen which makes my other conditions worse etc.

You have the ability to hire the best therapists, outsource labour so you have more free time to focus on healing and living a healthier lifestyle to recover from your trauma. Yes you still have problems but you also have a hell of a lot more tools in your toolbox to deal with them and still live a full life.

Good health is probably the most important thing there is but a lot of this and I'm sorry about your situation. Even with health though for most people not smoking, exercising 3x a week and maintaining a healthy weight will do far more for you than the best private hospitals/doctors ever could.

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Fluufer · 28/12/2024 12:55

Anyone can have problems. Money makes them much easier to deal with.

BumpyaDaisyevna · 28/12/2024 12:55

Well the bible does say, it's easier for a camel 🐪 to pass through the eye of a needle 💉 than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven ...

No matter how much money you have there is no escape from the vicissitudes of the human condition.

Ie - that we depend on and love others, and then have to bear the loss of the loved and needed person. And face the loss of our own life and that we will not live to see our children's children's children etc.

MyLilacGoose · 28/12/2024 12:54

BusyPoster · 28/12/2024 12:51

You've put this so much better than I ever could. No amount of money can change the fact that my brain just hasn't developed normally yet it seems like most people don't appreciate this at all.

Have you tried therapy and/or counselling?

For years and while it has helped a lot I still have more issues than the average person. I have just accepted that I'm never going to be normal and try and be grateful for what I've got.

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 28/12/2024 12:53

I think youare right that a lot of people can't see beyond someone's bank balance.
I'm sorry things are hard for you.

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